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Topic: Is Islam a Homophobic Religion ?
Posted By: oneonesit
Subject: Is Islam a Homophobic Religion ?
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 12:58pm
Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?

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Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 1:39pm
 " making it harder ".         Careful oneone , u might get misinterpreted.
 
   The Feminists are a garbage lot .          .  lets face it .      say it as it is and let it find it's own level.
 
 Irish jokes , Religious jokes , Racial jokes .      all OK but don't mention the Ladies,  as they want more than equality in everything  except the chit side of life .
     When 50% are Labourers I'll accept 50% in the prime positions.
 
   I was surprised to see the loveable Laura on Sky get her knickers into overdrive re the Eddy joke .
 
Laura ,      Put some ice in , and Cool It .


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 1:55pm
Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?

This was the question and I am not surprised he had difficulty answering it, his coalition is full of homophobes LOL


OFFENSIVE HOMOPHOBIA
Prime Minister Turnbull, how are the comments of Sheikh Shady Al-Suleiman calling homosexuality an evil act which brought evil outcomes any more abhorrent than Senator Cory Benardi’s suggestion that homosexuality leads to bestiality or George Christensen's likening of Safe Schools to paedophile grooming?

What do you think?



Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 2:00pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?

This was the question and I am not surprised he had difficulty answering it, his coalition is full of homophobes LOL


OFFENSIVE HOMOPHOBIA
Prime Minister Turnbull, how are the comments of Sheikh Shady Al-Suleiman calling homosexuality an evil act which brought evil outcomes any more abhorrent than Senator Cory Benardi’s suggestion that homosexuality leads to bestiality or George Christensen's likening of Safe Schools to paedophile grooming?

What do you think?



why don't you answer the question then..??




Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 2:03pm
Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?


funny isn't it, subby and PT want to shovel boat and plane loads of them here with us, but they are totally against any form of homophobia, sexist, racism, bigotry etc etc..

how on earth do these two resolve this one..??




Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 2:10pm
We let you in.


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 2:46pm
Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?

This was the question and I am not surprised he had difficulty answering it, his coalition is full of homophobes LOL


OFFENSIVE HOMOPHOBIA
Prime Minister Turnbull, how are the comments of Sheikh Shady Al-Suleiman calling homosexuality an evil act which brought evil outcomes any more abhorrent than Senator Cory Benardi’s suggestion that homosexuality leads to bestiality or George Christensen's likening of Safe Schools to paedophile grooming?

What do you think?



why don't you answer the question then..??


 
All religions have a crap attitude to homosexuality would be my answer.


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 3:03pm
Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?

This was the question and I am not surprised he had difficulty answering it, his coalition is full of homophobes LOL


OFFENSIVE HOMOPHOBIA
Prime Minister Turnbull, how are the comments of Sheikh Shady Al-Suleiman calling homosexuality an evil act which brought evil outcomes any more abhorrent than Senator Cory Benardi’s suggestion that homosexuality leads to bestiality or George Christensen's likening of Safe Schools to paedophile grooming?

What do you think?



why don't you answer the question then..??


 
All religions have a crap attitude to homosexuality would be my answer.


yes that would almost certainly be mine as well..

PT couldn't resolve it so made a funny instead..




Posted By: LR80
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 3:08pm
Only one religion throws gays off buildings.

#religionofpeace


Posted By: Ecair Issoire
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 3:11pm
so do any of the major/recognised religions have anything positive/nice to say
in the official texts regarding homosexuality?
 
 


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 3:12pm
I do not support homophobia, racism, sexism or most other 'isms by anyone, regardless of nationality, political party, religion, gender. To suggest though that homophobia it is confined to one religious group is just dumb and probably fits an 'ism.


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 3:14pm
Originally posted by Ecair Issoire Ecair Issoire wrote:

so do any of the major/recognised religions have anything positive/nice to say
in the official texts regarding homosexuality?
 
 


errr that would be a big fat NO...leaving aside the pedophiles within etc...

why on earth would anyone want to be involved with any religion is beyond me...there I said it, it's out, I don't like religion of any kind..

Embarrassed


Posted By: LR80
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 3:17pm
Islam hasn't had a Reformation since the days of the pedo Muhammed.

Unlikely to expect Islamic views towards gays changing for the better. Take a trip to the middle East and tell me what you see.

Homosexuality is becoming more open in places such as Lebanon but Lebanon ain't technically a Muslim country.

Otherwise good luck trying to find instances in the middle East. To publicise the fact you're gay is akin to shooting yourself in the head.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 3:19pm
Originally posted by Ecair Issoire Ecair Issoire wrote:

so do any of the major/recognised religions have anything positive/nice to say
in the official texts regarding homosexuality?
 
 

In some mainstream religions like Presbyterians, Anglicans Mormans and others have gay clergy and are welcoming. 

In the Catholic church though it is still officially a sin. 


Posted By: LR80
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 3:20pm
Of course PT will never admit this. The left is desperate to suppress atrocities committed by Islamic countries as it's counter productive to their dilution of the white vote.


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 3:24pm


¯\_(ツ)_/¯




Posted By: Ecair Issoire
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 3:32pm
Originally posted by LR80 LR80 wrote:

Islam hasn't had a Reformation since the days of the pedo Muhammed.

Unlikely to expect Islamic views towards gays changing for the better. Take a trip to the middle East and tell me what you see.

Homosexuality is becoming more open in places such as Lebanon but Lebanon ain't technically a Muslim country.

Otherwise good luck trying to find instances in the middle East. To publicise the fact you're gay is akin to shooting yourself in the head.
 
 
were jesus and buddha also pedos?


Posted By: Ecair Issoire
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 3:37pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Ecair Issoire Ecair Issoire wrote:

so do any of the major/recognised religions have anything positive/nice to say
in the official texts regarding homosexuality?
 
 

In some mainstream religions like Presbyterians, Anglicans Mormans and others have gay clergy and are welcoming. 

In the Catholic church though it is still officially a sin. 
 
 
thanks for the reply. Thumbs Up


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 4:46pm
being gay is illegal in India..it was made legal for two years but then was changed back to illegal again, and all this was just recently..




Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 5:09pm
Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

being gay is illegal in India..it was made legal for two years but then was changed back to illegal again, and all this was just recently..



So what is your take home message from India's experience, what does it have to do with us. or Islam and why should we care?


Posted By: LR80
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 5:34pm
Hillary accepts money from countries such as Saudi Arabia who kill gay people.

The left is desperate to keep a lid on this. The truth will come out.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 5:44pm
Saudi Arabia is the UN's second biggest donor, so does that make every country in the world guilty of whatever you are implying?


Posted By: AndiCap
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 5:44pm
Good thread Fiddles!
I have already learnt from it that subby is not Catholic....


Posted By: AndiCap
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 5:59pm
Oops   oneone's thread- Thumbs Up


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by AndiCap AndiCap wrote:

Good thread Fiddles!
I have already learnt from it that subby is not Catholic....
 
 
Thumbs Up


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 6:18pm
lol..


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 6:19pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Saudi Arabia is the UN's second biggest donor, so does that make every country in the world guilty of whatever you are implying?


second biggest..pffffft why not biggest, they got all their money for free and didn't do a damn thing to earn it..


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 7:31pm
No: goodness gracious me. Whatever put that idea in your head? Islam is all about peace, love and understanding.


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 7:52pm
http://time.com/3502522/pope-francis-vatican-catholic-church-homosexuality/" rel="nofollow - http://time.com/3502522/pope-francis-vatican-catholic-church-homosexuality/

Vincenzo Pinto—AFP/Getty ImagesPope Francis leads a mass honouring the canonisation of two Canadian saints in St. Peter's basilica at the Vatican on Oct. 12, 2014.

It's not the big shift people think it is

The Catholic world and the media were riled Monday by a Vatican document interpreted by many as signaling a softer church stance toward homosexuality, but the inclusive tone of the document is a long way from actual policy change.

At issue are three words most people have never heard of: Relatio post disceptationem. That’s the name of the document the Catholic Church’s Extraordinary Synod of the Bishops released Monday, one week into the Synod’s gathering to discuss the state of the family in the modern world. It translates, “Report After Debate,” and it was read aloud in the Synod hall to kick off the Synod’s second week. One of the report’s 58 sections—the one causing the biggest stir—is titled, “Welcoming homosexual persons.”

For a Church that has historically linked the word “homosexual” with the word “sin,” the idea of welcoming gays in any capacity can appear to be a significant move. Headlines immediately spoke of a “dramatic shift” and a “more tolerant” stance from the church.

But before rushing to conclusions, everyone, on all sides, should calm down.

here’s what the document is not:

The relatio is not a proscriptive text. It is not a decree. It is not doctrine, and certainly not a doctrinal shift. It is also not final. “These are not decisions that have been made nor simply points of view,” the document concludes. “The reflections put forward, the fruit of the Synodal dialogue that took place in great freedom and a spirit of reciprocal listening, are intended to raise questions and indicate perspectives that will have to be matured and made clearer by the reflection of the local Churches in the year that separates us from the Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of bishops planned for October 2015.”

So, what does all of that mean? Cardinal Tagle perhaps said it best when he said at Monday’s press briefing, with a smile, “The drama continues.”



Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 7:53pm
What is the official Muslim Church's position on homosexuality?


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 9:24pm
Dunno how they feel about gays, but they seem to be perfectly happy to marry off 10 year old girls to old men ?
But then,  thats what their profit   ( spelling ?  that doesnt look right ??)  did,  isnt it ? 
Lots of young wives and old husbands , and all that sick stuff.
And if they cant by pass the laws in this country,   just send them back to whatever 3rd world country the parents came from, and sell them there .
Not sure which is worse.  Sick pedo catholic priests or muslim child brides.  





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Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 9:30pm
talk about a conflict of ideology...

PT and subby are so confused about this homophobic muslim stuff...it really is the spanner in their works..




Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 9:33pm
Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?


funny isn't it, subby and PT want to shovel boat and plane loads of them here with us


 
Glad you mentioned the planes mate. This right wing government just keeps letting them through.
 
It's moronic to bleat on about the boats when they are a drop in the ocean compared to what we import via planes.
 
Who you going to vote for? The liberals are importing massive numbers of muslims


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 9:48pm
Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Dunno how they feel about gays, but they seem to be perfectly happy to marry off 10 year old girls to old men ?
But then,  thats what their profit   ( spelling ?  that doesnt look right ??)  did,  isnt it ? 
Lots of young wives and old husbands , and all that sick stuff.
And if they cant by pass the laws in this country,   just send them back to whatever 3rd world country the parents came from, and sell them there .
Not sure which is worse.  Sick pedo catholic priests or muslim child brides.  




Actually they are ok with homo sex as long as it is with a boy.LOL I am not making this up.Wink


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 9:55pm
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/an-afghan-tragedy-the-pashtun-practice-of-having-sex-with-young-boys-8911529.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/an-afghan-tragedy-the-pashtun-practice-of-having-sex-with-young-boys-8911529.html

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty" rel="nofollow - http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty




Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 10:14pm
Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

talk about a conflict of ideology...

PT and subby are so confused about this homophobic muslim stuff...it really is the spanner in their works..


 
 
Are you really that stupid? (its rhetorical by the way). I told you my position on the last page. In what way am I confused?


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 10:16pm
LOL LOL


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 10:31pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Dunno how they feel about gays, but they seem to be perfectly happy to marry off 10 year old girls to old men ?
But then,  thats what their profit   ( spelling ?  that doesnt look right ??)  did,  isnt it ? 
Lots of young wives and old husbands , and all that sick stuff.
And if they cant by pass the laws in this country,   just send them back to whatever 3rd world country the parents came from, and sell them there .
Not sure which is worse.  Sick pedo catholic priests or muslim child brides.  




Actually they are ok with homo sex as long as it is with a boy.LOL I am not making this up.Wink

The Roman Empire conquered , with male leaders who had blokes for lovers.
Nothing wrong with it, IMHO.   Whatever makes you happy.
Except when these so called hate preaching imans are telling us how gays should be destroyed.
All the while condoning raping young girls under the guise of marriage.
And stoning women who have been raped .




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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 10:47pm
Apologies folks.....if I had known how much antagonism this topic was going to create I would not have started it !

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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 10:48pm
Oh deary me Stern Smile


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 10:52pm
To late now 1x1.    We are on a roll Thumbs Up
Like you didnt suspect Wink


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Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 21 Jun 2016 at 10:56pm


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 10:10am
is that the same koala that was smoking loads of reefer in the tree with a lizard the other day..?? looks like it...Cool


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 10:41am
So now you are koala bashing? Is there no bottom to your barrel? Ouch 


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 10:32pm

Cory Bernardi furious Malcolm Turnbull 'implied Coalition MPs are homophobic'

Liberal senator attacks prime minister in blog post over comments Turnbull made on Q&A and says they have never discussed homophonbia

 https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jun/22/cory-bernardi-furious-malcolm-turnbull-implied-coalition-mps-are-homophobic?CMP=share_btn_tw


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 10:34am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Cory Bernardi furious Malcolm Turnbull 'implied Coalition MPs are homophobic'

Liberal senator attacks prime minister in blog post over comments Turnbull made on Q&A and says they have never discussed homophonbia

 https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jun/22/cory-bernardi-furious-malcolm-turnbull-implied-coalition-mps-are-homophobic?CMP=share_btn_tw


relevance to thread topic your honor..???




Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 10:35am
Read the OP


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 10:39am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Read the OP


sigh...

you're dragging your political bias around the forum into every thread like a child with a teddy bear..

you love Labor and loathe liberal...we get it already..Ouch


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 10:47am
Deary me Fiddles, with you inability to see clearly obvious relevant connections, how do you ever expect to solve your 9/11 riddle? You will never understand anything only moving in straight lines.


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 10:56am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Deary me Fiddles, with you inability to see clearly obvious relevant connections, how do you ever expect to solve your 9/11 riddle? You will never understand anything only moving in straight lines.


Straight lines..lol hilarious coming from the biggest one eyed voter in the land..


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 11:03am
There you go again


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 11:29am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

There you go again


quick question..

Is Islam homophobic..??




Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 11:39am
Shouldn't you be asking "Are some Muslims homophobic"?

If Islam is homophobic, does that mean that Muslims who are gay actually hate or fear themselves?




Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 11:44am
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Shouldn't you be asking "Are some Muslims homophobic"?

If Islam is homophobic, does that mean that Muslims who are gay actually hate or fear themselves?




no no no...my question is valid...it's no different to asking is Christianity homophobic...I'm talking about people or individuals, I'm talking about the original texts..

Is Islam homophobic..?

simple yes or no will do..


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 11:44am
Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Shouldn't you be asking "Are some Muslims homophobic"?

If Islam is homophobic, does that mean that Muslims who are gay actually hate or fear themselves?




no no no...my question is valid...it's no different to asking is Christianity homophobic...I'm NOT talking about people or individuals, I'm talking about the original texts..

Is Islam homophobic..?

simple yes or no will do..


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 11:56am
I understand that there are references to homosexual behavior or lying with another man or woman in both the Old and New Testament, so while I cannot accept that a religion as a whole can be homophobic,  individuals within it certainly are, and as both Christians and Muslims read from the same texts relating to homosexual behavior they are either both homophobic or both not. As the bible is the word of God according to both movements maybe God is the homophobe and his texts are just reflecting his thoughts.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 12:16pm
You could see Turnbull's mighty brain going through its gears and deciding whether to lie or not and how much to lie when they asked that question about homophobia.LOL He would have given another answer, the truth, at a different venue.

He clearly has not questioned any of his colleagues on the subject.


Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 12:21pm
Turnbull appears to be remarkably ignorant on the subject of Islam. 


Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 1:01pm
Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I understand that there are references to homosexual behavior or lying with another man or woman in both the Old and New Testament, so while I cannot accept that a religion as a whole can be homophobic,  individuals within it certainly are, and as both Christians and Muslims read from the same texts relating to homosexual behavior they are either both homophobic or both not. As the bible is the word of God according to both movements maybe God is the homophobe and his texts are just reflecting his thoughts.


Is Islam homophobic or not..yes or no will do..?




Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 1:07pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

You could see Turnbull's mighty brain going through its gears and deciding whether to lie or not and how much to lie when they asked that question about homophobia.LOL He would have given another answer, the truth, at a different venue.

He clearly has not questioned any of his colleagues on the subject.


You know what makes me sick is this constant badgering of our politicians about meaningless garbage that effects like tiny small minorities of our society, f f s everyday we are deluged by Islam, gays this gay that, women's rights this or that...deary me the largest percentage of people are normal hard working great people and all we hear on the TV and radio is these big issues like gay marriage, homophobia, dinner parties with Muslims...I want to puke seriously, that show the Drum on the ABC, have you ever seen so much garbage in one half hr as that show...check out the people they have on there every night, guaranteed one of the panel will be wearing some kind of head scarf or one the experts will be some dreary aging columnist from some pathetic glossy magazine that only middle aged under sexed, frustrated women will read..


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 3:46pm

You spend an awful amount of time talking and worrying about these issues Fiddles. I am confused now. Why do you get so angry about meaningless garbage?



Posted By: LR80
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 4:11pm
Subbie are you celebrating Eid?


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 4:34pm
Originally posted by LR80 LR80 wrote:

Subbie are you celebrating Eid?
 
 
Atheists don't tend to celebrate many religious festivals. However, I was lucky enough to be invited into some friends homes during Ramadan when I lived in Egypt for the evening meal, and that was highly enjoyable. Top notch feast!!


Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

I understand that there are references to homosexual behavior or lying with another man or woman in both the Old and New Testament, so while I cannot accept that a religion as a whole can be homophobic,  individuals within it certainly are, and as both Christians and Muslims read from the same texts relating to homosexual behavior they are either both homophobic or both not. As the bible is the word of God according to both movements maybe God is the homophobe and his texts are just reflecting his thoughts.


Is Islam homophobic or not..yes or no will do..?



No. What does homophobic mean?


Posted By: gogos
Date Posted: 12 Jul 2016 at 3:41pm
Islam is a barbaric cult not a religion. Might as well worship Ted Bundy. Same thing different era.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 12:19pm
This was on FB so I've no idea of validity but I do find it an interesting read Smile

https://www.facebook.com/ed.collins.3998?__tn__=%2CdC-y.g-R&eid=ARBofdn9GdTNLw56ho2InpByPB7SiNwLPYdtDmW2rIsgGgv_dTZxGleG8e8r3ZcWYKVEKHVnTx7-N-Z6&hc_ref=ARQieKuFYMDcVc0g7cA4s41_0sVzf1nYSr9inuc-kqt7EMJbieRFPX0iE_YvBUV65Kc&fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Ed Collins
https://www.facebook.com/ed.collins.3998/posts/1062085757158352" rel="nofollow - - A German's View on Islam - worth reading because this is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist--a man, whose family was German aristocracy prior t...o World War II, and owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of our world had come.

My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual, prior to World War II, was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians, most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt. Yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

Islamic prayers have now been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?! To whom? Not to the vast majority of Canadians!).

The Islamic way is only peaceful until the fanatics move in.

In Australia, and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food products in your local supermarket. Foods on aircraft have the halal emblem, just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding throughout the world.

In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of ?no-go? zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuses to acknowledge British law.

As for we who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Anyone who doubts the seriousness of this issue and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.

So, I beg you, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on in the hope that thousands, world-wide, read this, think about it, and send it on - before it's too late . . .. because we remained silent




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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 1:20pm
Does the Pope sh1t in the woods?

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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 2:02pm
Who knows, it's not something one would publicise LOL


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 3:25pm
I always thought the saying was ;  does a bear sh 1 t in the woods ?? Big smile


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Posted By: oneonesit
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 6:12pm
Good thread this. The bloke who kicked it off seems to know what he's talking about !

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 6:43pm
Well there's little in the way of a rejoinder that we might add to that particular observation.  Tongue


Posted By: Whale
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Well there's little in the way of a rejoinder that we might add to that particular observation.  Tongue

I guess he got sick of waiting for someone else to lie  say it Smile


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Posted By: Dr E
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 10:06pm
Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

This was on FB so I've no idea of validity but I do find it an interesting read Smile

https://www.facebook.com/ed.collins.3998?__tn__=%2CdC-y.g-R&eid=ARBofdn9GdTNLw56ho2InpByPB7SiNwLPYdtDmW2rIsgGgv_dTZxGleG8e8r3ZcWYKVEKHVnTx7-N-Z6&hc_ref=ARQieKuFYMDcVc0g7cA4s41_0sVzf1nYSr9inuc-kqt7EMJbieRFPX0iE_YvBUV65Kc&fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Ed Collins
https://www.facebook.com/ed.collins.3998/posts/1062085757158352" rel="nofollow - A German's View on Islam - worth reading because this is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist--a man, whose family was German aristocracy prior t...o World War II, and owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of our world had come.

My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.

China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual, prior to World War II, was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians, most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt. Yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.

Islamic prayers have now been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?! To whom? Not to the vast majority of Canadians!).

The Islamic way is only peaceful until the fanatics move in.

In Australia, and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food products in your local supermarket. Foods on aircraft have the halal emblem, just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding throughout the world.

In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of ?no-go? zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuses to acknowledge British law.

As for we who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Anyone who doubts the seriousness of this issue and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.

So, I beg you, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on in the hope that thousands, world-wide, read this, think about it, and send it on - before it's too late . . .. because we remained silent



Everyone who lives in Bankstown is acutely aware of this Gay - it's not a fable. 

It doesn't help that their religious books clearly support the fanaticism, even to the extent of encouraging them to lie to the face of infidels to hide their intent of world domination (or "Unavoidable Globalisation" as CNNPT likes to call it) - so you never actually know if Waleed is lying - oh that's right, you can tell if he is lying, his lips are moving!


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In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!


Posted By: maccamax
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 11:11pm
Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Does the Pope sh1t in the woods?

    He must Tlaz..     You had to begin some where.


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 28 Dec 2018 at 11:59pm
Did anyone see the TV show , ( his program ) where Waleed was horrified because he was given a good old search over at the airport in Jerusalem ?    Raved on and on.  And on. Cry Like ?  Who cares how much they search you ?  As long as my plane doesnt blow up mid air they can search me all they like. And all the other passengers as well.   Why did he object so much ???  What did he have to hide ??  Why did he care ??Clown
I am all for security no matter what it takes,,keep me safe and in one piece and I am happy.  I got strip searched in Abu Dhabi but did I feel the need to go on national TV and whinge ???  LOL
Why would he object so much to security in Jerusalem ?  
Oh yeah,,Big smile  any drum to beat LOL


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