2016 Under $20k Selections
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Topic: 2016 Under $20k Selections
Posted By: Beliskner
Subject: 2016 Under $20k Selections
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 9:15pm
I know we have plenty of competitions already, but i'm just curious if there is enough interest in doing another one, where the basic idea would be that everybody picks one horse each from any yearling sale, and try to get the best return possible on the sale price and/or get the best bargain out of everybody's choice.
I would do all the work on it, as Dizzy and Gay3 already have their hands full, unless they were happy to chip in but regardless i am happy to do all the work.
So basically the rules would be everybody gets 1 yearling pick, and the overall ideas would be to pick the cheapest yearling to get a decent return on the track, not sure whether i would put an upper limit in the comp, something like 10k maximum purchase price, and/or a condition such as only focus on horses that stay in Aus, as obviously any horses that go to HK etc have a big advantage when it comes to prizemoney.
If people are interested let me know in this thread, if you think their is enough comps running already let me know as well, i suspect a few people might think this is the case.
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 2:36pm
I'll give it one more shot, but if not that's cool, i just thought it'd be a nifty idea trying to go bargain hunting.
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 2:43pm
I like the idea... though less than $10k is a very, very small pool of horses to choose from. Could we make it less than $20k, and the winner is the greatest % return on purchase price?
------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It.
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 2:44pm
My girl was $12k... at $97k in prizemoney she'd have been a good one for this comp!!
------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It.
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 2:47pm
I reckon it's a good idea too. Agree with SS that $20k is probably a fair limit.
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 2:54pm
Yeah the 10k was just thrown in there as a random number, i'm completely open to ideas, but i think the best way to do it would be prizemoney, coz obviously you could do things like get a filly and then eventually she gets sold as a broodie for a decent price, and considering fillies more likely to get retired early maybe go for colts only?
Again i'm just throwing ideas in here.
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 3:03pm
Agree with the prizemoney only being counted as opposed to sales prices. Maybe we should get a backup in case on retires early? But only use the backup if the horse is retired before their 4th birthday maybe..
------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It.
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 3:08pm
Just don't let Ted enter! (% is return on cost.) 2015 MM only comp.
Ted |
Lope De Vega |
Dancescape |
749 |
$
14,000.00 |
Ocean City |
3-1-1-0 |
David Payne
(NSW) |
$
26,925.00 |
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14,000.00 |
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26,925.00 |
192.32% |
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 3:14pm
Yeah a backup is pretty easy, we don't have to track them unless we use it, but you can only sub if dead or retired officialy, even though i know some are retired but not 'officially' so that could be a small snag.
Thoughts on oz racing only? HK money is higher, nz and south africa very low.
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 3:30pm
Should be Aus only... easier comparison. Doubt there'd be too many in that price bracket being shipped out though??
------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It.
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 3:40pm
A filly just won in South Africa that was bought for $5,000 so yes they go overseas at that price. Some also find their way to Korea and Macau and Singapore in that price bracket.
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 4:07pm
Maybe the rule could be that if your first choice goes o/s your substitute gets activated.
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 4:26pm
Well can I get things kicked off with my first pick? Here's a cheapie I liked on page at least today at Classic 2:
Lot 98 Testa Rossa Tipsy Moment S Snow $13,000
------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It.
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 4:42pm
I'll go with another one from today:
Lot 10 High Chaparral x Beauty Watch $11,000
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 6:35pm
First pick:
Lot 289 Inglis Vobis Gold. Filly by Al Maher from Honor Hymn. $4,000 to Parnham Racing Stables WA.
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 6:41pm
Reserve choice:
Lot 14 Inglis Vobis Gold. Colt by Stryker from Given. $5k to Gerald Egan.
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Posted By: Daraabah
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 7:42pm
I'll double up on my 2016 competition cheapie and have: VOBIS Gold, 204, Lope De Vega ex Etoile D'Cozzene, $14k, Alexander Racing.
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Posted By: Banjo
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 7:47pm
March MM sale Lot 134. Collate. x. Gooyah $7k
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 10:53pm
Vobis gold L242 Bon Hoffa/Princess Reves $500
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 10:54pm
She doesn't look to bad for a $500 buy
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 12:15am
Sorry i don't know how to format it in a spreadsheet on the forum like the other guys do.
Banjo - MM March - Lot 134 - Collate/Gooyah - $7,000
BlackKnight - Classic 2 - Lot 10 - High Chapparal/Beauty Watch - $11,000
Daraabah - Vobis Gold - Lot 204 - Lope De Vega/Etoile D'Cozzene - $14,000
Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 289 - Al Maher/Honor Hymn - $4,000
Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 14 - Stryker/Given - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]
Shawy38 - Vobis Gold - Lot 242 - Bon Hoffa/Princess Reves - $500
Storm Siren - Classic 2 - Lot 98 - Testa Rossa/Tipsy Moment - $13,000
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 12:21am
Beliskner - Classic 2 - Lot 3 - Exceed and Excel/Actress - $10,000
I have to think something must be very wrong with the horse to go this cheap, but his page is just too good.
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 8:39am
I'm away at the moment so can I wait till later (much later as will have to catch up with work when I get home) to find one.
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 9:25am
Unless anyone has an issue i think leave submissions open for a couple of months?
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Posted By: Daraabah
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 9:32am
Inglis Classic, Lot 95, Street Boss ex Syria, $5K, Inglis as Agent
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Posted By: Campaspe
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 9:32am
VOBIS Gold Lot 225 Krupt x Jayjaye $12,000 Ryan Balfour SA
Sub VOBIS Gold Lot 41 Your Song x Lil Miss Hayley $5,000 Mick Cornish and Donna Gaskin VIC
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Posted By: Ted
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 9:38am
Dizzy wrote:
Just don't let Ted enter! |
Even a blind squirrel finds the occasional acorn Dizzy
Inglis Vobis Gold Lot 238 Nicconi x Military Training $18,000 Kane Harris
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Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 9:40am
Suggestion re cut off date, how about July 31 (end of season?)
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 9:47am
Sounds good - might be some qualifiers at the MM June sales
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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 10:26am
Were you at the Vobis Gold sale Ted? For this comp i started looking at the Nicconi's, only on line, nice types, wonderful stallion percentage, and cheap. Deserves to do better. For this comp, will probably settle on Lot 253, related to Bomber Bill, bought by D O'Sullivan for 10k
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 5:10pm
Gee you've picked through the Classic 2
I'll take lot 66 Star Witness/Mumbai Miss $12,000
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Posted By: Ted
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 6:27pm
Isaac soloman wrote:
Were you at the Vobis Gold sale Ted?
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No, but I share your view of Nicconi and Kane Harris is doing a nice job as a young trainer so I'm trusting that he has a good eye for a horse
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 6:31pm
Beliskner, happy to help with the spreadsheet. 😊
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 8:16am
Dizzy - Thank you for any assistance, in a grid or spreadsheet will look far superior to any list, if your happy to set it up initially you can tell me how do update it, as you have your hands full with the other comps, perhaps i can even help update the spreadsheets of the over comps too.
At this stage the cut off date for entries is August 1st.
However if somebody is a couple of days late i'm not going to be a hanging judge, but we do need a cut off point.
Banjo - MM March - Lot 134 - Collate x Gooyah - $7,000
Beliskner - Classic 2 - Lot 3 - Exceed and Excel x Actress - $10,000
Beliskner - XXX - Lot X - XXX x XXX - $XX,XXX [RESERVE PICK]
BlackKnight - Classic 2 - Lot 10 - High Chapparal x Beauty Watch - $11,000
Campaspe - Vobis Gold - Lot 225 - Krupt x Jayjaye - $12,000
Campaspe - Vobis Gold - Lot 41 - Your Song x Lil Miss Hayley - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]
Daraabah - Vobis Gold - Lot 204 - Lope De Vega x Etoile D'Cozzene - $14,000
Daraabah - Inglis Classic - Lot 95 - Street Boss x Syria - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK???]
Furious - Classic 2 - Lot 66 - Star Witness x Mumbai Miss - $12,000
Issac Soloman - Vobis Gold - Lot 253 - Nicconi x Specailisor - $10,000
Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 289 - Al Maher x Honor Hymn - $4,000
Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 14 - Stryker x Given - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]
Shawy38 - Vobis Gold - Lot 242 - Bon Hoffa x Princess Reves - $500
Storm Siren - Classic 2 - Lot 98 - Testa Rossa x Tipsy Moment - $13,000
Ted - Vobis Gold - Lot 238 - Nicconi x Military Training - $18,000
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 8:32am
Beliskner - Vobis Gold - Lot 260 - God's Own x Vinifera Lady - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK 1] Beliskner - Vobis Gold - Lot 89 - Toorak Toff x Posh Chic - $1,5000 [RESERVE PICK 2]
2nd dam a half sister to Choisir who had 7 to race for 6 winners, first foal of dam and a filly for $1,500, if i was a multi millionaire a vobis gold sale would be a very dangerous place for me, as a bargain junkie i'd end up buying a herd.
Also off topic, but lot 122, dam a Galileo half sister to Sunline out of Toorak Toff, filly foal for only 4.5k [at least going to a half decent trainer in Shea Eden], it's a shame to see how cheaply such strong bloodlines on paper can go for if the dam has a slow start as a mum.
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 8:45am
Do we need our reserve in before July or can we add after if the first goes overseas. The owner of mine is supposed to be in Australia but they can always get sold on before racing.
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 8:51am
Majority rules, i'm certainly not looking to be a dick about cutting people off from changing or having reserve picks etc, maybe the group think needs to come up with some hard rules with regards to overseas horses, sub horses etc etc.
Anything i've said has just been meant as general guidelines.
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Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 9:03am
Can I take lot 242 Adelaide MM sale, My Boy Charlie / Oriental Star $18000 D. Jolly .Thank you .
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 10:38am
Also i wouldn't be opposed to having two horses each, as i have every intention of doing all the updating, given how a lot of people are easily picking their reserves, just a thought.
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 2:16pm
OK I'll look later for a reserve. Only did the Classic 2 and most of the best of them already picked above.
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Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 2:32pm
Are double ups allowed or is it first to pick?
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 1:52am
Tillyras - I am more then happy to go with the group consensus, and don't feel strongly either way, but gun to my head i would go with no doubles.
Banjo - MM March - Lot 134 - Collate x Gooyah - $7,000
Beliskner - Classic 2 - Lot 3 - Exceed and Excel x Actress - $10,000
Beliskner - Vobis Gold - Lot 260 - God's Own x Vinifera Lady - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK 1]
Beliskner - Vobis Gold - Lot 89 - Toorak Toff x Posh Chic - $1,500 [RESERVE PICK 2]
BlackKnight - Classic 2 - Lot 10 - High Chapparal x Beauty Watch - $11,000
Campaspe - Vobis Gold - Lot 225 - Krupt x Jayjaye - $12,000
Campaspe - Vobis Gold - Lot 41 - Your Song x Lil Miss Hayley - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]
Daraabah - Vobis Gold - Lot 204 - Lope De Vega x Etoile D'Cozzene - $14,000
Daraabah - Inglis Classic - Lot 95 - Street Boss x Syria - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]
Furious - Classic 2 - Lot 66 - Star Witness x Mumbai Miss - $12,000
Goldey - MM Adelaide - Lot 242 - Myboycharlie x Oriental Star - $18,000
Issac Soloman - Vobis Gold - Lot 253 - Nicconi x Specailisor - $10,000
Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 289 - Al Maher x Honor Hymn - $4,000
Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 14 - Stryker x Given - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]
Shawy38 - Vobis Gold - Lot 242 - Bon Hoffa x Princess Reves - $500
Storm Siren - Classic 2 - Lot 98 - Testa Rossa x Tipsy Moment - $13,000
Ted - Vobis Gold - Lot 238 - Nicconi x Military Training - $18,000
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Posted By: Ted
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 7:21am
My reserve pick is MM Adelaide Lot 107 Domesday x Cryptography $16,000 Pat Carey
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Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 8:53am
Posted By: Daraabah
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 9:49am
Beliskner wrote:
Tillyras - I am more then happy to go with the group consensus, and don't feel strongly either way, but gun to my head i would go with no doubles.
Daraabah - Vobis Gold - Lot 204 - Lope De Vega x Etoile D'Cozzene - $14,000
Daraabah - Inglis Classic - Lot 95 - Street Boss x Syria - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]
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Can I swap mine around so my Reserve is my main pick? Also, I vote we should have 2 horses in the comp so if one goes amiss we all have another live player.
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 10:58am
No problems Daraabah, Dizzy has very kindly offered to start us off with a spreadsheet and we'll get that posted [plus your picks swapped] later today or tomorrow.
I think eventually i'll create a new thread for this comp when we have the gist of the rules and guidelines for the comp worked out, plus when more people have submitted.
I'm happy to have two live picks per person, but with everything i'm happy to go with the group think.
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Posted By: Banjo
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 8:47pm
Reserve Pick
MM March sale. Lot 220
Instinction. - Mighty Vixen Colt $16k
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 10 May 2016 at 6:57am
Member |
Sale |
Lot # |
Sire |
Dam |
Cost |
Owner/Trainer |
Banjo |
MM March |
134 |
Collate |
Gooyah |
$
7,000.00 |
Leigh Wanless (QLD) |
Banjo Reserve
1 |
MM March |
220 |
Instinction |
Mighty Vixen |
$
16,000.00 |
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Banjo Reserve
2 |
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Beliskner |
Inglis Classic 2 |
3 |
Exceed and Excel |
Actress |
$
10,000.00 |
S Douglas (NSW) |
Beliskner
Reserve 1 |
Vobis Gold |
260 |
God's Own |
Vinifera Lady |
$
5,000.00 |
Eden Racing (VIC) |
Beliskner
Reserve 2 |
Vobis Gold |
89 |
Toorak Toff |
Posh Chic |
$
1,500.00 |
Inglis as Agent (VIC) |
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BlackKnight |
Inglis Classic 2 |
10 |
High Chaparral |
Beauty Watch |
$
11,000.00 |
A Clarke (NSW) |
BlackKinight
Reserve 1 |
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BlackKinight
Reserve 2 |
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Campaspe |
Vobis Gold |
41 |
Your Song |
Lil Miss Hayley |
$
5,000.00 |
Cornish/Gaskin (VIC) |
Campaspe
Reserve 1 |
Vobis Gold |
225 |
Krupt |
Jayjaye |
$
12,000.00 |
R Balfour (SA) |
Campaspe
Reserve 2 |
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Daraabah |
Inglis Classic |
95 |
Street Boss |
Syria |
$
5,000.00 |
Alexander Racing
(VIC) |
Daraabah
Reserve 1 |
Vobis Gold |
204 |
Lope De Vega |
Etoile D'Cozzene |
$
14,000.00 |
Inglis as Agent (NSW) |
Daraabah
Reserve 2 |
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furious |
Inglis Classic 2 |
66 |
Star Witness |
Mumbai Miss |
$
12,000.00 |
Flying Start (QLD) |
furious
Reserve 1 |
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furious
Reserve 2 |
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 10 May 2016 at 6:57am
goldey |
MM Adelaide |
242 |
Myboycharlie |
Oriental Star |
$
18,000.00 |
David Jolly
(SA) |
goldey Reserve
1 |
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goldey Reserve
2 |
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Isaac Soloman |
Vobis Gold |
253 |
Nicconi |
Specialiser |
$
10,000.00 |
D O'Sullivan (VIC) |
Isaac Soloman
Reserve 1 |
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Isaac Soloman
Reserve 2 |
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Second Chance |
Vobis Gold |
289 |
Al Maher |
Honor Hymn |
$
4,000.00 |
N Parnham (WA) |
Second Chance
Reserve 1 |
Vobis Gold |
14 |
Styker |
Given |
$
5,000.00 |
G Egan/P Vella (VIC) |
Second Chance
Reserve 2 |
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Shawy38 |
Vobis Gold |
242 |
Bon Hoffa |
Princess Reves |
$
500.00 |
Inglis as Agent (VIC) |
Shawy38
Reserve 1 |
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Shawy38
Reserve 2 |
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StormSiren |
Inglis Classic 2 |
98 |
Testa Rossa |
Tipsy Moment |
$
13,000.00 |
S Snow (NSW) |
StormSiren
Reserve 1 |
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StormSiren
Reserve 2 |
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Ted |
Vobis Gold |
238 |
Nicconi |
Military Training |
$
18,000.00 |
K Harris (VIC) |
Ted Reserve 1 |
MM Adeleaide |
107 |
Domesday |
Cryptography |
$
16,000.00 |
Pat Carey (VIC) |
Ted Reserve 2 |
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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 10 May 2016 at 9:46am
Reserve 1 MM Perth lot 80 Bel Espirit/Original Sin [ half to Bel Sprinter] $14k G1X Bloodstock/John WallReserve 2 MM Perth lot 93 Demerit/Pretty Pia $11k Justin Warwick
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 10 May 2016 at 3:36pm
Reserve 1 MM Adelaide lot 354 Good Journey / Chomp $10k Kim Harrison & Jon O'Connor
------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It.
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Posted By: WarriSymbol
Date Posted: 11 May 2016 at 9:51pm
MM Adelaide: Lot 218 Master Of Design - Miss Doopsy / $16K / Todd Rawiller Reserve 1: MM Tassie: Lot 119 Lope De Vega - Keep On Talking / $20K / First Light Racing Reserve 2: MM Adelaide: Lot 338 Zizou - Andneedles / $15K / LLoyd Kennewell
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Posted By: Wrinkles
Date Posted: 14 May 2016 at 6:12pm
2016, Magic Millions Perth Yearling Sales
Lot 21, Discorsi x Lady Ella $19,000.00
Subs
1. Lot 28, So Secret x Liberty Belle $20,000.00
2. Lot 30, War Chant x Lively Tale $10,000.00
Thank You
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 15 May 2016 at 3:05pm
I'll shift my other two to reserves and put my trainers purchase today down as my pick... he's got a good record with cheap greys ;-) -
Inglis Scone #84 Manhattan Rain x Fabulous Cat (JPN) J Coyle $20,000
------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It.
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 12:05pm
Member |
Sale |
Lot # |
Sire |
Dam |
Cost |
Banjo |
MM March |
134 |
Collate |
Gooyah |
$
7,000.00 |
Banjo Reserve
1 |
MM March |
220 |
Instinction |
Mighty Vixen |
$
16,000.00 |
Banjo Reserve
2 |
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Beliskner |
Inglis Classic 2 |
3 |
Exceed and Excel |
Actress |
$
10,000.00 |
Beliskner
Reserve 1 |
Vobis Gold |
260 |
God's Own |
Vinifera Lady |
$
5,000.00 |
Beliskner
Reserve 2 |
Vobis Gold |
89 |
Toorak Toff |
Posh Chic |
$
1,500.00 |
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BlackKnight |
Inglis Classic 2 |
10 |
High Chaparral |
Beauty Watch |
$
11,000.00 |
BlackKinight
Reserve 1 |
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BlackKinight
Reserve 2 |
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Campaspe |
Vobis Gold |
41 |
Your Song |
Lil Miss Hayley |
$
5,000.00 |
Campaspe
Reserve 1 |
Vobis Gold |
225 |
Krupt |
Jayjaye |
$
12,000.00 |
Campaspe
Reserve 2 |
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Daraabah |
Inglis Classic |
95 |
Street Boss |
Syria |
$
5,000.00 |
Daraabah
Reserve 1 |
Vobis Gold |
204 |
Lope De Vega |
Etoile D'Cozzene |
$
14,000.00 |
Daraabah
Reserve 2 |
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Furious |
Inglis Classic 2 |
66 |
Star Witness |
Mumbai Miss |
$
12,000.00 |
Furious
Reserve 1 |
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Furious
Reserve 2 |
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Goldey |
MM Adelaide |
242 |
Myboycharlie |
Oriental Star |
$
18,000.00 |
Goldey Reserve
1 |
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Goldey Reserve
2 |
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 12:06pm
Isaac
Soloman |
Vobis Gold |
253 |
Nicconi |
Specialiser |
$
10,000.00 |
Isaac Soloman
Reserve 1 |
MM Perth |
80 |
Bel Esprit |
Original Sin |
$
14,000.00 |
Isaac Soloman
Reserve 2 |
MM Perth |
93 |
Denman |
Pretty Pia |
$
11,000.00 |
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Second Chance |
Vobis Gold |
289 |
Al Maher |
Honor Hymn |
$
4,000.00 |
Second Chance
Reserve 1 |
Vobis Gold |
14 |
Styker |
Given |
$
5,000.00 |
Second Chance
Reserve 2 |
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Shawy38 |
Vobis Gold |
242 |
Bon Hoffa |
Princess Reves |
$
500.00 |
Shawy38
Reserve 1 |
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Shawy38
Reserve 2 |
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StormSiren |
Inglis Scone |
84 |
Manhattan Rain |
Fabulous Cat |
$
20,000.00 |
StormSiren
Reserve 1 |
Inglis Classic 2 |
98 |
Testa Rossa |
Tipsy Moment |
$
13,000.00 |
StormSiren
Reserve 2 |
MM Adelaide |
354 |
Good Journey |
Chomp |
$
10,000.00 |
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Ted |
Vobis Gold |
238 |
Nicconi |
Military Training |
$
18,000.00 |
Ted Reserve 1 |
MM Adeleaide |
107 |
Domesday |
Cryptography |
$
16,000.00 |
Ted Reserve 2 |
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WarriSymbol |
MM Adeleaide |
218 |
Master Of Design |
Miss Doopsy |
$
16,000.00 |
WarriSymbol
Reserve 1 |
MM Tassie |
119 |
Lope De Vega |
Keep On Talking |
$
20,000.00 |
WarriSymbol
Reserve 2 |
MM Adeleaide |
338 |
Zizou |
Andneedles |
$
15,000.00 |
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Wrinkles |
MM Perth |
21 |
Discorsi |
Lady Ella |
$
19,000.00 |
Wrinkles
Reserve 1 |
MM Perth |
28 |
So Secret |
Liberty Belle |
$
20,000.00 |
Wrinkles
Reserve 2 |
MM Perth |
30 |
War Chant |
Lively Tale |
$
10,000.00 |
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 12:06pm
So the major decision that needs to be decided, albeit we are in no rush whatsoever, is whether we are going to have 2 with 1 reserve for 1 with 2 reserves, i favour the former, but am happy to go with the majority.
With double up's, my preference is not to, however again i'll go with the majority.
Stop submissions around early August, i'll post on the main board a week or two before we close to give other who mightn't seen this new comp a chance to enter.
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 12:15pm
I see most people are pushing the 20k limit which is obviously not a problem, i wouldn't mind seeing a little bit more speculating at the bottom end, if Shawy's Bon Hoffa wins a normal maiden he'll probably take out the best percentage category.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 12:25pm
The trouble is, it's damned hard to find anything that even sold for less than $20k, let alone something you 1/2 like at 10k or under
------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 12:49pm
I think the worry for mine is that under $10k there may be bad legs/xrays unless it is very unfashionably bred.. since I haven't been able to make it to the sales to see myself, seems a little safer to go with one that had a little bidding competition...
That's my strategy anyway lol
I'll say 2 with 1 reserve seems a good idea if it doesn't create too much extra work...
------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It.
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 1:12pm
Yeah i know Gay, i'd just love to see if we can pick out another The Big Dance.
20k is absolutely the right and fair amount, don't get me wrong.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 2:26pm
First there has to be one
------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 3:19pm
Dizzy |
Inglis Scone |
184 |
Hinchinbrook |
She's Best |
$
6,500.00 |
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 9:22pm
2nd horse scone 201 Al Maher - Step Up Lady $16000 (show a Heart mares have been doing good lately)
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Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 9:53pm
MMTAS Lot 24 Ilovethiscity/Pearly Kate - Matt Brown 4500
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Posted By: Campaspe
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 11:58am
My second horse (or first reserve, if we're having one and two reserves) will be:
VOBIS Gold Lot 167 - Zoffany x Beheshta $11,000 to Frankie Stockdale (will probably be pinhooked).
Wouldn't we all like to find another The Big Dance! There were something like 30+ horses <$2,000 at the VG Sale that year, and hardly any this year. Give it a few years, the bottom end will drop again and that's when one will pop up.
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 12:12pm
You raise an interesting point, we pretty much have no rule with regards to pinhooks for this comp.
The floor is open, i have no preference.
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 12:13pm
Campaspe, I have for you:
Campaspe |
Vobis Gold |
41 |
Your Song |
Lil Miss Hayley |
$
5,000.00 |
Cornish/Gaskin
(VIC) |
Campaspe
Reserve 1 |
Vobis Gold |
167 |
Zoffany |
Beheshta |
$
11,000.00 |
F Stockdale |
Campaspe
Reserve 2 |
Vobis Gold |
225 |
Krupt |
Jayjaye |
$
12,000.00 |
R Balfour (SA) |
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 12:14pm
It will be 2 picks and 1 reserve. I will need to update all the spread sheet.
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Posted By: Campaspe
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 12:22pm
Thanks Dizzy.
Beliskner, I'd say dealers choice. If one gets pinhooked you can choose to take the money and run, or you can stick with it and hope the prizemoney exceeds the sale price. It may depend on where they get sold to, ie: if my Zoffany gets pinhooked to South Africa I'd take the money. However, if you take the sale price, that's locked in and you can't then swap it out for your reserve later.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 1:57pm
Headed down the the Apple Isle for mine Tas. MM
119 C 20k Lope De Vega/Keep On Talking 1st Light Racing/Ellerton/Zahra
12 C 18k Turrfontein/Morell Brunton..........RESERVE
------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!
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Posted By: Daraabah
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 8:06pm
My 2nd pick, Scone Lot 29,F, Artie Schiller ex Afraah, 11k, S Grills (1st pick Street Boss/Syria and 3rd pick/reserve Lope De Vega ex Etoile D'Cozzene)
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 23 May 2016 at 10:32am
2nd pick:
Dizzy |
Inglis Vobis |
74 |
Canford Cliffs |
No Vanity |
$
8,000.00 |
Hancox (VIC) |
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Posted By: Campaspe
Date Posted: 24 May 2016 at 9:15am
Hmm, that Zoffany is being flicked straight back through the Great Southern Sale. Wonder what's wrong with him? I'll leave it as is for now, and probably have a look at the National yearlings.
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 3:45pm
I made everybody's 1st reserve their second pick and their 2nd reserve their single reserve pick.
Anybody who wants swap horses around, or pick different ones, just pot in this thread and i'll change it no problems.
Dizzy will post spreadsheet later.
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 6:55am
Member |
Sale |
Lot # |
Sire |
Dam |
Cost |
Owner/Trainer |
Banjo |
MM March |
134 |
Collate |
Gooyah |
$
7,000.00 |
Leigh Wanless (QLD) |
Banjo |
MM March |
220 |
Instinction |
Mighty Vixen |
$
16,000.00 |
|
Banjo
Reserve |
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Beliskner |
Inglis Classic 2 |
3 |
Exceed and Excel |
Actress |
$
10,000.00 |
S Douglas (NSW) |
Beliskner |
Vobis Gold |
260 |
God's Own |
Vinifera Lady |
$
5,000.00 |
Eden Racing (VIC) |
Beliskner
Reserve |
Vobis Gold |
89 |
Toorak Toff |
Posh Chic |
$
1,500.00 |
Inglis as Agent (VIC) |
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BlackKnight |
Inglis Classic 2 |
10 |
High Chaparral |
Beauty Watch |
$
11,000.00 |
A Clarke (NSW) |
BlackKinight |
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|
BlackKinight
Reserve |
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Campaspe |
Vobis Gold |
41 |
Your Song |
Lil Miss Hayley |
$
5,000.00 |
Cornish/Gaskin (VIC) |
Campaspe |
Vobis Gold |
167 |
Zoffany |
Beheshta |
$
11,000.00 |
F Stockdale |
Campaspe
Reserve |
Vobis Gold |
225 |
Krupt |
Jayjaye |
$
12,000.00 |
R Balfour (SA) |
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Daraabah |
Inglis Classic |
95 |
Street Boss |
Syria |
$
5,000.00 |
Alexander Racing
(VIC) |
Daraabah |
Inglis Scone |
29 |
Artie Schiller |
Afraah |
$
11,000.00 |
Sue Grills (NSW) |
Daraabah
Reserve |
Vobis Gold |
204 |
Lope De Vega |
Etoile D'Cozzene |
$
14,000.00 |
Inglis as Agent (NSW) |
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Dizzy |
Inglis Scone |
184 |
Hinchinbrook |
She's Best |
$
6,500.00 |
Sue Grills (NSW) |
Dizzy |
Inglis Vobis |
74 |
Canford Cliffs |
No Vanity |
$
8,000.00 |
Hancox (VIC) |
Dizzy
Reserve |
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furious |
Inglis Classic 2 |
66 |
Star Witness |
Mumbai Miss |
$
12,000.00 |
Flying Start (QLD) |
furious
Reserve 1 |
Inglis Scone |
201 |
Al Maher |
Step Up Lady |
$
16,000.00 |
|
furious
Reserve 2 |
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Gay3 |
MM Tassie |
119 |
Lope De Vega |
Keep On Talking |
$
20,000.00 |
First
Light/Ellerton/Zahra (VIC) |
Gay3 |
MM Tassie |
12 |
Turffontein |
Morell |
$
18,000.00 |
Brunton (TAS) |
Gay3 Reserve |
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 6:56am
goldey |
MM Adelaide |
242 |
Myboycharlie |
Oriental Star |
$
18,000.00 |
David Jolly
(SA) |
goldey |
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goldey
Reserve |
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Isaac Soloman |
Vobis Gold |
253 |
Nicconi |
Specialiser |
$
10,000.00 |
D O'Sullivan (VIC) |
Isaac
Soloman |
MM Perth |
80 |
Bel Esprit |
Original Sin |
$
14,000.00 |
G1X/Jogn Wall |
Isaac Soloman
Reserve |
MM Perth |
93 |
Demerit |
Pretty Pia |
$
11,000.00 |
J Warwick |
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Second Chance |
Vobis Gold |
289 |
Al Maher |
Honor Hymn |
$
4,000.00 |
N Parnham (WA) |
Second
Chance |
Vobis Gold |
14 |
Styker |
Given |
$
5,000.00 |
G Egan/P Vella (VIC) |
Second Chance
Reserve |
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Shawy38 |
Vobis Gold |
242 |
Bon Hoffa |
Princess Reves |
$
500.00 |
Inglis as Agent (VIC) |
Shawy38 |
|
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|
|
Shawy38
Reserve |
|
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|
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Sky Dancer |
MM Tassie |
24 |
Ilovethiscity |
Pearly Kate |
$
4,500.00 |
Matt Brown |
Sky
Dancer |
|
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|
|
Sky Dancer
Reserve |
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StormSiren |
Inglis Scone |
84 |
Manhattan Rain |
Fabulous Cat |
$
20,000.00 |
J Coyle |
StormSiren |
Inglis Classic 2 |
98 |
Testa Rossa |
Tipsy Moment |
$
13,000.00 |
S Snow (NSW) |
StormSiren
Reserve |
MM Adelaide |
354 |
Good Journey |
Chomp |
$
10,000.00 |
K Harrison/J O'Connor |
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|
|
Ted |
Vobis Gold |
238 |
Nicconi |
Military Training |
$
18,000.00 |
K Harris (VIC) |
Ted |
MM Adeleaide |
107 |
Domesday |
Cryptography |
$
16,000.00 |
Pat Carey (VIC) |
Ted
Reserve |
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WarriSymbol |
MM Adelaide |
218 |
Master Of Design |
Miss Doopsy |
$
16,000.00 |
T Rawiller |
WarriSymbol |
MM Tassie |
119 |
Lope De Vega |
Keep On Talking |
$
20,000.00 |
First Light Racing |
WarriSymbol
Reserve |
MM Adelaide |
338 |
Zizou |
Andneedles |
$
15,000.00 |
Lloyd Kennewell |
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|
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|
|
Wrinkles |
MM Perth |
21 |
Discorsi |
Lady Ella |
$
19,000.00 |
A Maley (WA) |
Wrinkles |
MM Perth |
28 |
So Secret |
Liberty Belle |
$
20,000.00 |
J Chamlmers B/Stock
(WA) |
Wrinkles
Reserve |
MM Perth |
30 |
War Cahnt |
Lively Tale |
$
10,000.00 |
Jason Pateman (WA) |
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 3:43pm
Was ready to put in MM Lot 1691 (which must have some serious issues given that Gai bought the full sister for $300k last year) but she's heading to South Africa
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 3:43pm
Posted By: Ted
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 8:00pm
My reserve selection is MM National Sale Lot 1591 Casino Prince x Run For Naara $14,000 Toby Koenig As Agent, thanks
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Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 8:40pm
Have only just decided what I'm going to pick will go with the SCONE SELECT YEARLING SALE INGLIS from May 15th for all of my picks
Pick1 LOT 167 MONEY OR THE GUN/QUELLTALER J DUNN QLD $1250 Pick 2 LOT 140 ANIMAL KINGDOM/MISS BUSSELL KRD RACING VIC $1500 RESERVE LOT 58 POETS VOICE/CHAGRIN D'AMOUR J KELLY NSW $1500
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Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 8:53pm
my second pick is from the vobis gold sale Lot 251 Bushranger/Sienna Skye -- Inglis as agent VIC $500
reserve Vobis gold Lot 66 Toorak Toff/Music World - S Trolove $2000
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Posted By: Ted
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 9:43pm
Can I please delete my first pick, Nicconi x Military Training, and replace him with MM National Sale Lot 1789 Al Maher x Golden Lasso $16,000 John Sargent
All done now, thanks
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Posted By: talk
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 3:04am
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California Dane – Eyenar Inglis
classic yearling sale, Austin Racing NSW $20,000 High Chaparral - Solar Verde Scone yearling sales, D Weir Vic $16,000
Thanks tony
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------------- talk
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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 12:08pm
Pick 2: MM Lot 1800 Animal Kingdom x Hokuspokus $16,000 Reserve: MM Lot 1700 Sebring x Bellerama $9,000
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 12:31pm
I'm going to be a pain in the ass and swap lot #284 from MM Adelaide in.. Uncle Mo, $7k. Will advise which one I'm dropping after my exam tomorrow!
------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It.
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 6:34pm
My reserve will be lot 1553 from National Sale Jet Spur - Passagemaker $3,000 Thank you. I'm still wondering whether to swap him into the top two as he is cheap but then the other two possibly had a stronger pedigree base.
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2016 at 9:41am
Ok, can I please change my mix to:
StormSiren | MM Adelaide | 284 | Uncle Mo | Shasmecka | $ 7,000.00 | Grandview (QLD) | StormSiren | Inglis Classic 2 | 98 | Testa Rossa | Tipsy Moment | $ 13,000.00 | S Snow (NSW) | StormSiren Reserve | Inglis Scone | 84 | Manhattan Rain | Fabulous Cat | $ 20,000.00 | J Coyle (NSW) |
------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It.
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Posted By: Farmermick
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 1:29am
What a grand idea! is it too late for me to enter my selections as I love comps but to be honest never look here.
Farmermick- (Inglis Classic Sydney) (lot 10 High Chapparal x Beauty Watch) $11'000 - A Clarke (NSW) Farmermick- (Vobis Gold Melbourne) (lot 30 Statue of Liberty x Jetta) $20'000- R.Griffiths/Peter Ford (VIC)
Res-Farmermick- (Vobis Gold Melbourne) (lot 69 Stryker x My Summer Rose) $15'000-Eden Racing (VIC)
------------- Ethical Farming Boutique Horse Stud Medicinal Plant Research
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 3:29am
Entries will be open until August 1st, but will probably leave it open a few extra days to give occasional posters a chance to join or change/add to their current picks.
You can change or add picks at anytime, i update the spreadsheet every couple of weeks and dizzy posts it.
I know your High Chap somebody has also picked, i don't care about double ups, i don't know what other people think but i don't think anybody has a problem with it.
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 7:28am
Farmermick wrote:
What a grand idea! is it too late for me to enter my selections as I love comps but to be honest never look here.
Farmermick- (Inglis Classic Sydney) (lot 10 High Chapparal x Beauty Watch) $11'000 - A Clarke (NSW) BlackKnight Farmermick- (Vobis Gold Melbourne) (lot 30 Statue of Liberty x Jetta) $20'000- R.Griffiths/Peter Ford (VIC)
Res-Farmermick- (Vobis Gold Melbourne) (lot 69 Stryker x My Summer Rose) $15'000-Eden Racing (VIC) |
Farmermick, no duplications in this comp - BlackKnight got in first on the High Chaparral/ Beauty Watch.
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 8:45am
Sorry Dizzy i wasn't sure WRT duplicates.
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 9:10am
Beliskner, we decided several pages back not to have duplicates? (Not trying to take over here.)
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 10:09am
One of the thing that stymied me after scone was everybody got in quick and creamed the best of the cheap lots! It is easy to pick a cheap one just hard to find one even worth that money - before everyone else!
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 11:14am
Probably Dizzy, i just forgot, honestly i have no strong feelings either way about any issue, all good.
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2016 at 9:48am
Banjo |
MM March |
134 |
Collate |
Gooyah |
$
7,000.00 |
Pistol And Boo |
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Posted By: Toll Road
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 1:29pm
Hey guys I've just had a thought that you might be able to add to any of your running comps. I was out at the weanling sales at Melbourne on the weekend and got the idea.There are plenty of weanlings sold at these sales that will never see another sale again for various reasons. Some are bought by syndicators, breeders or people like us who buy to race. Some go on to be very good race horses and win black type others just don't go on or whatever reason. But because of who bought them they will never go through the sales ring again and are lost to your comps. But lets say you have a chance to buy in at the weanling sales for your comps list. Then from there you can use these purchases to add to your yearling lists or racing lista later when the horse makes it's racing debut? A little like the a rookie list or supplementary list. Just a thought anyway
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Posted By: Campaspe
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 6:10pm
Having had a look at that Zoffany when he was offered at Great Southern today, I'm giving him the flick. I will add, as my reserve, the horse we actually bought this year, which is:
VOBIS Gold Lot 1: Anacheeva x Fairness colt $5,000
Thanks Dizzy.
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 7:23am
Campaspe |
Vobis Gold |
41 |
Your Song |
Lil Miss Hayley |
$
5,000.00 |
Cornish/Gaskin
(VIC) |
Campaspe |
Vobis Gold |
225 |
Krupt |
Jayjaye |
$
12,000.00 |
R Balfour (SA) |
Campaspe
Reserve |
Vobis Gold |
1 |
Anacheeva |
Fairness |
$
5,000.00 |
D Curran (VIC) |
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2016 at 9:09am
tillyras
Reserve |
Inglis Scone |
58 |
Poet's Voice |
Chagrin D'Amour |
$
1,500.00 |
Don't Tell Mon |
|
J Kelly (NW) |
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