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Topic: 2016 Under $20k Selections
Posted By: Beliskner
Subject: 2016 Under $20k Selections
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2016 at 10:15pm
I know we have plenty of competitions already, but i'm just curious if there is enough interest in doing another one, where the basic idea would be that everybody picks one horse each from any yearling sale, and try to get the best return possible on the sale price and/or get the best bargain out of everybody's choice.

I would do all the work on it, as Dizzy and Gay3 already have their hands full, unless they were happy to chip in but regardless i am happy to do all the work.

So basically the rules would be everybody gets 1 yearling pick, and the overall ideas would be to pick the cheapest yearling to get a decent return on the track, not sure whether i would put an upper limit in the comp, something like 10k maximum purchase price, and/or a condition such as only focus on horses that stay in Aus, as obviously any horses that go to HK etc have a big advantage when it comes to prizemoney.

If people are interested let me know in this thread, if you think their is enough comps running already let me know as well, i suspect a few people might think this is the case.



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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 3:36pm
I'll give it one more shot, but if not that's cool, i just thought it'd be a nifty idea trying to go bargain hunting.


Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 3:43pm
I like the idea... though less than $10k is a very, very small pool of horses to choose from. Could we make it less than $20k, and the winner is the greatest % return on purchase price?

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Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren & Speed Hero.


Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 3:44pm
My girl was $12k... at $97k in prizemoney she'd have been a good one for this comp!!

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Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren & Speed Hero.


Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 3:47pm
I reckon it's a good idea too. Agree with SS that $20k is probably a fair limit.


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 3:54pm
Yeah the 10k was just thrown in there as a random number, i'm completely open to ideas, but i think the best way to do it would be prizemoney, coz obviously you could do things like get a filly and then eventually she gets sold as a broodie for a decent price, and considering fillies more likely to get retired early maybe go for colts only?

Again i'm just throwing ideas in here.


Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 4:03pm
Agree with the prizemoney only being counted as opposed to sales prices. Maybe we should get a backup in case on retires early? But only use the backup if the horse is retired before their 4th birthday maybe..

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Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren & Speed Hero.


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 4:08pm
Just don't let Ted enter! (% is return on cost.)LOL
 
2015 MM only comp.
TedLope De VegaDancescape749 $    14,000.00 Ocean City3-1-1-0David Payne (NSW) $     26,925.00  
     $    14,000.00     $     26,925.00 192.32%


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 4:14pm
Yeah a backup is pretty easy, we don't have to track them unless we use it, but you can only sub if dead or retired officialy, even though i know some are retired but not 'officially' so that could be a small snag.

Thoughts on oz racing only?  HK money is higher, nz and south africa very low.


Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 4:30pm
Should be Aus only... easier comparison. Doubt there'd be too many in that price bracket being shipped out though??



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Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren & Speed Hero.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 4:40pm
A filly just won in South Africa that was bought for $5,000 so yes they go overseas at that price.  Some also find their way to Korea and Macau and Singapore in that price bracket.


Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 5:07pm
Maybe the rule could be that if your first choice goes o/s your substitute gets activated.


Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 5:26pm
Well can I get things kicked off with my first pick? Here's a cheapie I liked on page at least today at Classic 2:

Lot 98 Testa Rossa Tipsy Moment S Snow $13,000



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Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren & Speed Hero.


Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 5:42pm
I'll go with another one from today:

Lot 10 High Chaparral x Beauty Watch $11,000


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 7:35pm
First pick:

Lot 289 Inglis Vobis Gold.  Filly by Al Maher from Honor Hymn.  $4,000 to Parnham Racing Stables WA.


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 7:41pm
Reserve choice:

Lot 14 Inglis Vobis Gold.  Colt by Stryker from Given.  $5k to Gerald Egan.


Posted By: Daraabah
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 8:42pm
I'll double up on my 2016 competition cheapie and have:
VOBIS Gold, 204, Lope De Vega ex Etoile D'Cozzene, $14k, Alexander Racing.


Posted By: Banjo
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 8:47pm
March MM sale
Lot 134. Collate. x. Gooyah
$7k


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 11:53pm
Vobis gold L242 Bon Hoffa/Princess Reves $500


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 06 May 2016 at 11:54pm
She doesn't look to bad for a $500 buy

Click to view gallery


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 1:15am
Sorry i don't know how to format it in a spreadsheet on the forum like the other guys do.


Banjo - MM March - Lot 134 - Collate/Gooyah - $7,000

BlackKnight - Classic 2 - Lot 10 - High Chapparal/Beauty Watch - $11,000

Daraabah - Vobis Gold - Lot 204 - Lope De Vega/Etoile D'Cozzene - $14,000

Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 289 - Al Maher/Honor Hymn - $4,000

Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 14 - Stryker/Given - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]

Shawy38 - Vobis Gold - Lot 242 - Bon Hoffa/Princess Reves - $500

Storm Siren - Classic 2 - Lot 98 - Testa Rossa/Tipsy Moment - $13,000


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 1:21am
Beliskner - Classic 2 - Lot 3 - Exceed and Excel/Actress - $10,000


I have to think something must be very wrong with the horse to go this cheap, but his page is just too good.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 9:39am
I'm away at the moment so can I wait till later (much later as will have to catch up with work when I get home) to find one.


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 10:25am
Unless anyone has an issue i think leave submissions open for a couple of months?


Posted By: Daraabah
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 10:32am
Inglis Classic, Lot 95, Street Boss ex Syria, $5K, Inglis as Agent


Posted By: Campaspe
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 10:32am
VOBIS Gold Lot 225 Krupt x Jayjaye $12,000 Ryan Balfour SA

Sub VOBIS Gold Lot 41 Your Song x Lil Miss Hayley $5,000 Mick Cornish and Donna Gaskin VIC


Posted By: Ted
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 10:38am
Originally posted by Dizzy Dizzy wrote:

Just don't let Ted enter! LOL 

Even a blind squirrel finds the occasional acorn Dizzy Wink

Inglis Vobis Gold Lot 238 Nicconi x Military Training $18,000 Kane Harris


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 10:40am
Suggestion re cut off date, how about July 31 (end of season?)


Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 10:47am
Sounds good - might be some qualifiers at the MM June sales


Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 11:26am
Were you at the Vobis Gold sale Ted? For this comp i started looking at the Nicconi's, only  on line, nice types, wonderful stallion percentage, and cheap. Deserves to do better.
For this comp, will probably settle on Lot 253, related to Bomber Bill, bought by D O'Sullivan for 10k


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 6:10pm
Gee you've picked through the Classic 2

I'll take lot 66 Star Witness/Mumbai Miss $12,000




Posted By: Ted
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 7:27pm
Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Were you at the Vobis Gold sale Ted?

No, but I share your view of Nicconi and Kane Harris is doing a nice job as a young trainer so I'm trusting that he has a good eye for a horse


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 07 May 2016 at 7:31pm
Beliskner, happy to help with the spreadsheet. 😊


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 9:16am
Dizzy - Thank you for any assistance, in a grid or spreadsheet will look far superior to any list, if your happy to set it up initially you can tell me how do update it, as you have your hands full with the other comps, perhaps i can even help update the spreadsheets of the over comps too.


At this stage the cut off date for entries is August 1st.

However if somebody is a couple of days late i'm not going to be a hanging judge, but we do need a cut off point.


Banjo - MM March - Lot 134 - Collate x Gooyah - $7,000

Beliskner - Classic 2 - Lot 3 - Exceed and Excel x Actress - $10,000

Beliskner - XXX - Lot X - XXX x XXX - $XX,XXX [RESERVE PICK]

BlackKnight - Classic 2 - Lot 10 - High Chapparal x Beauty Watch - $11,000

Campaspe - Vobis Gold - Lot 225 - Krupt x Jayjaye - $12,000

Campaspe - Vobis Gold - Lot 41 - Your Song x Lil Miss Hayley - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]

Daraabah - Vobis Gold - Lot 204 - Lope De Vega x Etoile D'Cozzene - $14,000

Daraabah - Inglis Classic - Lot 95 - Street Boss x Syria - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK???]

Furious - Classic 2 - Lot 66 - Star Witness x Mumbai Miss - $12,000

Issac Soloman - Vobis Gold - Lot 253 - Nicconi x Specailisor - $10,000

Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 289 - Al Maher x Honor Hymn - $4,000

Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 14 - Stryker x Given - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]

Shawy38 - Vobis Gold - Lot 242 - Bon Hoffa x Princess Reves - $500

Storm Siren - Classic 2 - Lot 98 - Testa Rossa x Tipsy Moment - $13,000

Ted - Vobis Gold - Lot 238 - Nicconi x Military Training - $18,000


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 9:32am
Beliskner - Vobis Gold - Lot 260 - God's Own x Vinifera Lady - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK 1]
Beliskner - Vobis Gold - Lot 89 - Toorak Toff x Posh Chic - $1,5000 [RESERVE PICK 2]


2nd dam a half sister to Choisir who had 7 to race for 6 winners, first foal of dam and a filly for $1,500, if i was a multi millionaire a vobis gold sale would be a very dangerous place for me, as a bargain junkie i'd end up buying a herd.

Also off topic, but lot 122, dam a Galileo half sister to Sunline out of Toorak Toff, filly foal for only 4.5k [at least going to a half decent trainer in Shea Eden], it's a shame to see how cheaply such strong bloodlines on paper can go for if the dam has a slow start as a mum.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 9:45am
Do we need our reserve in before July or can we add after if the first goes overseas.  The owner of mine is supposed to be in Australia but they can always get sold on before racing.


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 9:51am
Majority rules, i'm certainly not looking to be a dick about cutting people off from changing or having reserve picks etc, maybe the group think needs to come up with some hard rules with regards to overseas horses, sub horses etc etc.

Anything i've said has just been meant as general guidelines.


Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 10:03am
Can I take lot 242 Adelaide MM sale, My Boy Charlie / Oriental  Star $18000 D. Jolly .Thank you .


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 11:38am
Also i wouldn't be opposed to having two horses each, as i have every intention of doing all the updating, given how a lot of people are easily picking their reserves, just a thought.


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 3:16pm
OK I'll look later for a reserve.  Only did the Classic 2 and most of the best of them already picked above.


Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 08 May 2016 at 3:32pm
Are double ups allowed or is it first to pick?


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 2:52am
Tillyras - I am more then happy to go with the group consensus, and don't feel strongly either way, but gun to my head i would go with no doubles.


Banjo - MM March - Lot 134 - Collate x Gooyah - $7,000

Beliskner - Classic 2 - Lot 3 - Exceed and Excel x Actress - $10,000

Beliskner - Vobis Gold - Lot 260 - God's Own x Vinifera Lady - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK 1]

Beliskner - Vobis Gold - Lot 89 - Toorak Toff x Posh Chic - $1,500 [RESERVE PICK 2]

BlackKnight - Classic 2 - Lot 10 - High Chapparal x Beauty Watch - $11,000

Campaspe - Vobis Gold - Lot 225 - Krupt x Jayjaye - $12,000

Campaspe - Vobis Gold - Lot 41 - Your Song x Lil Miss Hayley - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]

Daraabah - Vobis Gold - Lot 204 - Lope De Vega x Etoile D'Cozzene - $14,000

Daraabah - Inglis Classic - Lot 95 - Street Boss x Syria - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]

Furious - Classic 2 - Lot 66 - Star Witness x Mumbai Miss - $12,000

Goldey - MM Adelaide - Lot 242 - Myboycharlie x Oriental Star - $18,000

Issac Soloman - Vobis Gold - Lot 253 - Nicconi x Specailisor - $10,000

Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 289 - Al Maher x Honor Hymn - $4,000

Second Chance - Vobis Gold - Lot 14 - Stryker x Given - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]

Shawy38 - Vobis Gold - Lot 242 - Bon Hoffa x Princess Reves - $500

Storm Siren - Classic 2 - Lot 98 - Testa Rossa x Tipsy Moment - $13,000

Ted - Vobis Gold - Lot 238 - Nicconi x Military Training - $18,000


Posted By: Ted
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 8:21am
My reserve pick is MM Adelaide Lot 107 Domesday x Cryptography $16,000 Pat Carey


Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 9:53am
Ok thanks Beliskner


Posted By: Daraabah
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 10:49am
Originally posted by Beliskner Beliskner wrote:

Tillyras - I am more then happy to go with the group consensus, and don't feel strongly either way, but gun to my head i would go with no doubles.


Daraabah - Vobis Gold - Lot 204 - Lope De Vega x Etoile D'Cozzene - $14,000

Daraabah - Inglis Classic - Lot 95 - Street Boss x Syria - $5,000 [RESERVE PICK]


Can I swap mine around so my Reserve is my main pick?
Also, I vote we should have 2 horses in the comp so if one goes amiss we all have another live player.


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 11:58am
No problems Daraabah, Dizzy has very kindly offered to start us off with a spreadsheet and we'll get that posted [plus your picks swapped] later today or tomorrow.

I think eventually i'll create a new thread for this comp when we have the gist of the rules and guidelines for the comp worked out, plus when more people have submitted.

I'm happy to have two live picks per person, but with everything i'm happy to go with the group think.


Posted By: Banjo
Date Posted: 09 May 2016 at 9:47pm
Reserve Pick

MM March sale. Lot 220

Instinction. - Mighty Vixen   Colt $16k


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 10 May 2016 at 7:57am
MemberSaleLot #SireDam Cost Owner/Trainer
Banjo MM March134CollateGooyah $      7,000.00 Leigh Wanless (QLD)
Banjo Reserve 1MM March220InstinctionMighty Vixen $    16,000.00  
Banjo Reserve 2      
       
BelisknerInglis Classic 23Exceed and ExcelActress $    10,000.00 S Douglas (NSW)
Beliskner Reserve 1Vobis Gold260God's OwnVinifera Lady $      5,000.00 Eden Racing (VIC)
Beliskner Reserve 2Vobis Gold89Toorak ToffPosh Chic $      1,500.00 Inglis as Agent (VIC)
       
BlackKnightInglis Classic 210High ChaparralBeauty Watch $    11,000.00 A Clarke (NSW)
BlackKinight Reserve 1      
BlackKinight Reserve 2      
       
Campaspe Vobis Gold41Your SongLil Miss Hayley $      5,000.00 Cornish/Gaskin (VIC)
Campaspe Reserve 1Vobis Gold225KruptJayjaye $    12,000.00 R Balfour (SA)
Campaspe Reserve 2      
       
DaraabahInglis Classic95Street BossSyria $      5,000.00 Alexander Racing (VIC)
Daraabah Reserve 1Vobis Gold204Lope De VegaEtoile D'Cozzene $    14,000.00 Inglis as Agent (NSW)
Daraabah Reserve 2      
       
furiousInglis Classic 266Star WitnessMumbai Miss $    12,000.00 Flying Start (QLD)
furious Reserve 1      
furious Reserve 2      


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 10 May 2016 at 7:57am
goldeyMM Adelaide242MyboycharlieOriental Star $    18,000.00 David Jolly (SA)
goldey Reserve 1      
goldey Reserve 2      
       
Isaac SolomanVobis Gold253NicconiSpecialiser $    10,000.00 D O'Sullivan (VIC)
Isaac Soloman Reserve 1      
Isaac Soloman Reserve 2      
       
Second ChanceVobis Gold289Al MaherHonor Hymn $      4,000.00 N Parnham (WA)
Second Chance Reserve 1Vobis Gold14StykerGiven $      5,000.00 G Egan/P Vella (VIC)
Second Chance Reserve 2      
       
Shawy38Vobis Gold242Bon HoffaPrincess Reves $          500.00 Inglis as Agent (VIC)
Shawy38 Reserve 1      
Shawy38 Reserve 2      
       
StormSirenInglis Classic 298Testa RossaTipsy Moment $    13,000.00 S Snow (NSW)
StormSiren Reserve 1      
StormSiren Reserve 2      
       
TedVobis Gold238NicconiMilitary Training $    18,000.00 K Harris (VIC)
Ted Reserve 1MM Adeleaide107DomesdayCryptography $    16,000.00 Pat Carey (VIC)
Ted Reserve 2      


Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 10 May 2016 at 10:46am
Reserve 1 MM Perth lot 80 Bel Espirit/Original Sin [ half to Bel Sprinter] $14k G1X Bloodstock/John Wall
Reserve 2 MM Perth lot 93 Demerit/Pretty Pia $11k  Justin Warwick



Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 10 May 2016 at 4:36pm
Reserve 1 MM Adelaide lot 354  Good Journey / Chomp  $10k Kim Harrison & Jon O'Connor

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Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren & Speed Hero.


Posted By: WarriSymbol
Date Posted: 11 May 2016 at 10:51pm
MM Adelaide: Lot 218  Master Of Design - Miss Doopsy / $16K / Todd Rawiller
Reserve 1:   MM Tassie: Lot 119  Lope De Vega - Keep On Talking / $20K / First Light Racing
Reserve 2:   MM Adelaide: Lot 338  Zizou - Andneedles / $15K / LLoyd Kennewell



Posted By: Wrinkles
Date Posted: 14 May 2016 at 7:12pm
2016, Magic Millions Perth Yearling Sales

Lot 21,  Discorsi  x  Lady Ella  $19,000.00


Subs

1.   Lot 28,  So Secret  x  Liberty Belle  $20,000.00

2.   Lot 30,  War Chant  x  Lively Tale    $10,000.00


Thank You


Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 15 May 2016 at 4:05pm
I'll shift my other two to reserves and put my trainers purchase today down as my pick... he's got a good record with cheap greys ;-) -

Inglis Scone #84 Manhattan Rain x Fabulous Cat (JPN) J Coyle $20,000



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Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren & Speed Hero.


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 1:05pm
MemberSaleLot #SireDam Cost 
Banjo MM March134CollateGooyah $      7,000.00
Banjo Reserve 1MM March220InstinctionMighty Vixen $    16,000.00
Banjo Reserve 2     
      
BelisknerInglis Classic 23Exceed and ExcelActress $    10,000.00
Beliskner Reserve 1Vobis Gold260God's OwnVinifera Lady $      5,000.00
Beliskner Reserve 2Vobis Gold89Toorak ToffPosh Chic $      1,500.00
      
BlackKnightInglis Classic 210High ChaparralBeauty Watch $    11,000.00
BlackKinight Reserve 1     
BlackKinight Reserve 2     
      
Campaspe Vobis Gold41Your SongLil Miss Hayley $      5,000.00
Campaspe Reserve 1Vobis Gold225KruptJayjaye $    12,000.00
Campaspe Reserve 2     
      
DaraabahInglis Classic95Street BossSyria $      5,000.00
Daraabah Reserve 1Vobis Gold204Lope De VegaEtoile D'Cozzene $    14,000.00
Daraabah Reserve 2     
      
FuriousInglis Classic 266Star WitnessMumbai Miss $    12,000.00
Furious Reserve 1     
Furious Reserve 2     
      
GoldeyMM Adelaide242MyboycharlieOriental Star $    18,000.00
Goldey Reserve 1     
Goldey Reserve 2     


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 1:06pm
Isaac SolomanVobis Gold253NicconiSpecialiser $    10,000.00
Isaac Soloman Reserve 1MM Perth80Bel EspritOriginal Sin $    14,000.00
Isaac Soloman Reserve 2MM Perth93DenmanPretty Pia $    11,000.00
      
Second ChanceVobis Gold289Al MaherHonor Hymn $      4,000.00
Second Chance Reserve 1Vobis Gold14StykerGiven $      5,000.00
Second Chance Reserve 2     
      
Shawy38Vobis Gold242Bon HoffaPrincess Reves $          500.00
Shawy38 Reserve 1     
Shawy38 Reserve 2     
      
StormSirenInglis Scone84Manhattan RainFabulous Cat $    20,000.00
StormSiren Reserve 1Inglis Classic 298Testa RossaTipsy Moment $    13,000.00
StormSiren Reserve 2MM Adelaide354Good JourneyChomp $    10,000.00
      
TedVobis Gold238NicconiMilitary Training $    18,000.00
Ted Reserve 1MM Adeleaide107DomesdayCryptography $    16,000.00
Ted Reserve 2     
      
WarriSymbolMM Adeleaide218Master Of DesignMiss Doopsy $    16,000.00
WarriSymbol Reserve 1MM Tassie119Lope De VegaKeep On Talking $    20,000.00
WarriSymbol Reserve 2MM Adeleaide338ZizouAndneedles $    15,000.00
      
WrinklesMM Perth21DiscorsiLady Ella $    19,000.00
Wrinkles Reserve 1MM Perth28So SecretLiberty Belle $    20,000.00
Wrinkles Reserve 2MM Perth30War ChantLively Tale $    10,000.00


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 1:06pm
So the major decision that needs to be decided, albeit we are in no rush whatsoever, is whether we are going to have 2 with 1 reserve for 1 with 2 reserves, i favour the former, but am happy to go with the majority.

With double up's, my preference is not to, however again i'll go with the majority.

Stop submissions around early August, i'll post on the main board a week or two before we close to give other who mightn't seen this new comp a chance to enter.


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 1:15pm
I see most people are pushing the 20k limit which is obviously not a problem, i wouldn't mind seeing a little bit more speculating at the bottom end, if Shawy's Bon Hoffa wins a normal maiden he'll probably take out the best percentage category. Thumbs Up


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 1:25pm
The trouble is, it's damned hard to find  anything that even sold for less than $20k, let alone something you 1/2 like at 10k or under LOL


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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 1:49pm
I think the worry for mine is that under $10k there may be bad legs/xrays unless it is very unfashionably bred.. since I haven't been able to make it to the sales to see myself, seems a little safer to go with one that had a little bidding competition...

That's my strategy anyway lol Thumbs Up

I'll say 2 with 1 reserve seems a good idea if it doesn't create too much extra work...


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Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren & Speed Hero.


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 2:12pm
Yeah i know Gay, i'd just love to see if we can pick out another The Big Dance.

20k is absolutely the right and fair amount, don't get me wrong.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 3:26pm
First there has to be one LOL


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Experience is something you gain a few minutes after you could have used it!


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 4:19pm
DizzyInglis Scone184HinchinbrookShe's Best $      6,500.00


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 10:22pm
2nd horse scone 201 Al Maher - Step Up Lady $16000 (show a Heart mares have been doing good lately)


Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 16 May 2016 at 10:53pm
MMTAS Lot 24 Ilovethiscity/Pearly Kate - Matt Brown 4500

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Posted By: Campaspe
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 12:58pm
My second horse (or first reserve, if we're having one and two reserves) will be:

VOBIS Gold Lot 167 - Zoffany x Beheshta $11,000 to Frankie Stockdale (will probably be pinhooked).

Wouldn't we all like to find another The Big Dance! There were something like 30+ horses <$2,000 at the VG Sale that year, and hardly any this year. Give it a few years, the bottom end will drop again and that's when one will pop up.


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 1:12pm
You raise an interesting point, we pretty much have no rule with regards to pinhooks for this comp.

The floor is open, i have no preference.


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 1:13pm
Campaspe, I have for you:
Campaspe Vobis Gold41Your SongLil Miss Hayley $      5,000.00 Cornish/Gaskin (VIC)
Campaspe Reserve 1Vobis Gold167ZoffanyBeheshta $    11,000.00 F Stockdale
Campaspe Reserve 2Vobis Gold225KruptJayjaye $    12,000.00 R Balfour (SA)


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 1:14pm
It will be 2 picks and 1 reserve. I will need to update all the spread sheet.


Posted By: Campaspe
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 1:22pm
Thanks Dizzy.

Beliskner, I'd say dealers choice. If one gets pinhooked you can choose to take the money and run, or you can stick with it and hope the prizemoney exceeds the sale price. It may depend on where they get sold to, ie: if my Zoffany gets pinhooked to South Africa I'd take the money. However, if you take the sale price, that's locked in and you can't then swap it out for your reserve later.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 2:57pm
Headed down the the Apple Isle for mine Wink  Tas. MM

119  C  20k  Lope De Vega/Keep On Talking  1st Light Racing/Ellerton/Zahra

12  C  18k  Turrfontein/Morell  Brunton..........RESERVE

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Posted By: Daraabah
Date Posted: 19 May 2016 at 9:06pm
My 2nd pick, Scone Lot 29,F,  Artie Schiller ex Afraah, 11k, S Grills
(1st pick Street Boss/Syria and 3rd pick/reserve Lope De Vega ex Etoile D'Cozzene)


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 23 May 2016 at 11:32am
2nd pick:
DizzyInglis Vobis74Canford CliffsNo Vanity $      8,000.00 Hancox (VIC)


Posted By: Campaspe
Date Posted: 24 May 2016 at 10:15am
Hmm, that Zoffany is being flicked straight back through the Great Southern Sale. Wonder what's wrong with him? I'll leave it as is for now, and probably have a look at the National yearlings.


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 06 Jun 2016 at 4:45pm
I made everybody's 1st reserve their second pick and their 2nd reserve their single reserve pick.

Anybody who wants swap horses around, or pick different ones, just pot in this thread and i'll change it no problems.

Dizzy will post spreadsheet later.


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 7:55am
MemberSaleLot #SireDam Cost Owner/Trainer
Banjo MM March134CollateGooyah $      7,000.00 Leigh Wanless (QLD)
Banjo MM March220InstinctionMighty Vixen $    16,000.00  
Banjo Reserve       
       
BelisknerInglis Classic 23Exceed and ExcelActress $    10,000.00 S Douglas (NSW)
Beliskner Vobis Gold260God's OwnVinifera Lady $      5,000.00 Eden Racing (VIC)
Beliskner Reserve Vobis Gold89Toorak ToffPosh Chic $      1,500.00 Inglis as Agent (VIC)
       
BlackKnightInglis Classic 210High ChaparralBeauty Watch $    11,000.00 A Clarke (NSW)
BlackKinight      
BlackKinight Reserve       
       
Campaspe Vobis Gold41Your SongLil Miss Hayley $      5,000.00 Cornish/Gaskin (VIC)
CampaspeVobis Gold167ZoffanyBeheshta $    11,000.00 F Stockdale
Campaspe Reserve Vobis Gold225KruptJayjaye $    12,000.00 R Balfour (SA)
       
DaraabahInglis Classic95Street BossSyria $      5,000.00 Alexander Racing (VIC)
Daraabah Inglis Scone29Artie SchillerAfraah $    11,000.00 Sue Grills (NSW)
Daraabah Reserve Vobis Gold204Lope De VegaEtoile D'Cozzene $    14,000.00 Inglis as Agent (NSW)
       
DizzyInglis Scone184HinchinbrookShe's Best $      6,500.00 Sue Grills (NSW)
DizzyInglis Vobis74Canford CliffsNo Vanity $      8,000.00 Hancox (VIC)
Dizzy Reserve       
       
furiousInglis Classic 266Star WitnessMumbai Miss $    12,000.00 Flying Start (QLD)
furious Reserve 1Inglis Scone201Al MaherStep Up Lady $    16,000.00  
furious Reserve 2      
       
Gay3MM Tassie119Lope De VegaKeep On Talking $    20,000.00 First Light/Ellerton/Zahra (VIC)
Gay3MM Tassie12TurffonteinMorell $    18,000.00 Brunton (TAS)
Gay3 Reserve      


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 7:56am
goldeyMM Adelaide242MyboycharlieOriental Star $    18,000.00 David Jolly (SA)
goldey       
goldey Reserve       
       
Isaac SolomanVobis Gold253NicconiSpecialiser $    10,000.00 D O'Sullivan (VIC)
Isaac Soloman MM Perth80Bel EspritOriginal Sin $    14,000.00 G1X/Jogn Wall
Isaac Soloman Reserve MM Perth93DemeritPretty Pia $    11,000.00 J Warwick
       
Second ChanceVobis Gold289Al MaherHonor Hymn $      4,000.00 N Parnham (WA)
Second Chance Vobis Gold14StykerGiven $      5,000.00 G Egan/P Vella (VIC)
Second Chance Reserve       
       
Shawy38Vobis Gold242Bon HoffaPrincess Reves $          500.00 Inglis as Agent (VIC)
Shawy38       
Shawy38 Reserve       
       
Sky DancerMM Tassie24IlovethiscityPearly Kate $      4,500.00 Matt Brown
Sky Dancer       
Sky Dancer Reserve       
       
StormSirenInglis Scone84Manhattan RainFabulous Cat $    20,000.00 J Coyle
StormSiren Inglis Classic 298Testa RossaTipsy Moment $    13,000.00 S Snow (NSW)
StormSiren Reserve MM Adelaide354Good JourneyChomp $    10,000.00 K Harrison/J O'Connor
       
TedVobis Gold238NicconiMilitary Training $    18,000.00 K Harris (VIC)
Ted MM Adeleaide107DomesdayCryptography $    16,000.00 Pat Carey (VIC)
Ted Reserve       
       
WarriSymbolMM Adelaide218Master Of DesignMiss Doopsy $    16,000.00 T Rawiller
WarriSymbol MM Tassie119Lope De VegaKeep On Talking $    20,000.00 First Light Racing
WarriSymbol Reserve MM Adelaide338ZizouAndneedles $    15,000.00 Lloyd Kennewell
       
WrinklesMM Perth21DiscorsiLady Ella $    19,000.00 A Maley (WA)
Wrinkles MM Perth28So SecretLiberty Belle $    20,000.00 J Chamlmers B/Stock (WA)
Wrinkles Reserve MM Perth30War CahntLively Tale $    10,000.00 Jason Pateman (WA)


Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 4:43pm
Was ready to put in MM Lot 1691 (which must have some serious issues given that Gai bought the full sister for $300k last year) but she's heading to South Africa Angry


Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 4:43pm
*he's


Posted By: Ted
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 9:00pm
My reserve selection is MM National Sale Lot 1591 Casino Prince x Run For Naara $14,000 Toby Koenig As Agent, thanks


Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 9:40pm
Have only just decided what I'm going to pick
will go with the SCONE SELECT YEARLING SALE INGLIS  from May 15th for all of my picks

Pick1 LOT 167  MONEY OR THE GUN/QUELLTALER  J DUNN QLD $1250
Pick 2 LOT 140 ANIMAL KINGDOM/MISS BUSSELL KRD RACING VIC $1500
RESERVE LOT 58 POETS VOICE/CHAGRIN D'AMOUR  J KELLY NSW $1500



Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 07 Jun 2016 at 9:53pm
my second pick is from the vobis gold sale
Lot 251 Bushranger/Sienna Skye -- Inglis as agent VIC $500

reserve
Vobis gold Lot 66 Toorak Toff/Music World - S Trolove $2000


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Posted By: Ted
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2016 at 10:43pm
Can I please delete my first pick, Nicconi x Military Training, and replace him with MM National Sale Lot 1789 Al Maher x Golden Lasso $16,000 John Sargent

All done now, thanks


Posted By: talk
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 4:04am
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California Dane – Eyenar Inglis classic yearling sale, Austin Racing NSW $20,000

High Chaparral - Solar Verde  Scone yearling sales, D Weir Vic   $16,000


Thanks

tony

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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 1:08pm
Pick 2: MM Lot 1800 Animal Kingdom x Hokuspokus $16,000
Reserve: MM Lot 1700 Sebring x Bellerama $9,000


Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 1:31pm
I'm going to be a pain in the ass and swap lot #284 from MM Adelaide in.. Uncle Mo, $7k. Will advise which one I'm dropping after my exam tomorrow!

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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2016 at 7:34pm
My reserve will be lot 1553 from National Sale Jet Spur - Passagemaker  $3,000  Thank you.  I'm still wondering whether to swap him into the top two as he is cheap but then the other two possibly had a stronger pedigree base.


Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 15 Jun 2016 at 10:41am
Ok, can I please change my mix to:

StormSirenMM Adelaide284Uncle MoShasmecka $      7,000.00Grandview (QLD)
StormSiren Inglis Classic 298Testa RossaTipsy Moment $    13,000.00S Snow (NSW)
StormSiren Reserve Inglis Scone84Manhattan RainFabulous Cat $    20,000.00J Coyle (NSW)


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Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren & Speed Hero.


Posted By: Farmermick
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 2:29am
What a grand idea! is it too late for me to enter my selections as I love comps but to be honest never look here.

Farmermick- (Inglis Classic Sydney) (lot 10 High Chapparal x Beauty Watch) $11'000 - A Clarke (NSW)
Farmermick- (Vobis Gold Melbourne) (lot 30 Statue of Liberty x Jetta) $20'000- R.Griffiths/Peter Ford (VIC)

Res-Farmermick- (Vobis Gold Melbourne) (lot 69 Stryker x My Summer Rose) $15'000-Eden Racing (VIC)


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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 4:29am
Entries will be open until August 1st, but will probably leave it open a few extra days to give occasional posters a chance to join or change/add to their current picks.

You can change or add picks at anytime, i update the spreadsheet every couple of weeks and dizzy posts it.

I know your High Chap somebody has also picked, i don't care about double ups, i don't know what other people think but i don't think anybody has a problem with it.


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 8:28am
Originally posted by Farmermick Farmermick wrote:

What a grand idea! is it too late for me to enter my selections as I love comps but to be honest never look here.

Farmermick- (Inglis Classic Sydney) (lot 10 High Chapparal x Beauty Watch) $11'000 - A Clarke (NSW) BlackKnight
Farmermick- (Vobis Gold Melbourne) (lot 30 Statue of Liberty x Jetta) $20'000- R.Griffiths/Peter Ford (VIC)

Res-Farmermick- (Vobis Gold Melbourne) (lot 69 Stryker x My Summer Rose) $15'000-Eden Racing (VIC)
 
Farmermick, no duplications in this comp - BlackKnight got in first on the High Chaparral/ Beauty Watch.


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 9:45am
Sorry Dizzy i wasn't sure WRT duplicates.


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 10:10am
Beliskner, we decided several pages back not to have duplicates? (Not trying to take over here.Embarrassed)


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 11:09am
One of the thing that stymied me after scone was everybody got in quick and creamed the best of the cheap lots!  It is easy to pick a cheap one just hard to find one even worth that money - before everyone else!


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 16 Jun 2016 at 12:14pm
Probably Dizzy, i just forgot, honestly i have no strong feelings either way about any issue, all good. Thumbs Up


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 17 Jun 2016 at 10:48am
Banjo MM March134CollateGooyah $      7,000.00 Pistol And Boo


Posted By: Toll Road
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2016 at 2:29pm
Hey guys I've just had a thought that you might be able to add to any of your running comps. I was out at the weanling sales at Melbourne on the weekend and got the idea.
There are plenty of weanlings sold at these sales that will never see another sale again for various reasons. Some are bought by syndicators, breeders or people like us who buy to race. Some go on to be very good race horses and win black type others just don't go on or whatever reason.  But because of who bought them they will never go through the sales ring again and are lost to your comps.
 
But lets say you have a chance to buy in at the weanling sales for your comps list. Then from there you can use these purchases to add to your yearling lists or racing lista later when the horse makes it's racing debut? A little like the a rookie list or supplementary list.
 
Just a thought anyway


Posted By: Campaspe
Date Posted: 22 Jun 2016 at 7:10pm
Having had a look at that Zoffany when he was offered at Great Southern today, I'm giving him the flick. I will add, as my reserve, the horse we actually bought this year, which is:

VOBIS Gold Lot 1: Anacheeva x Fairness colt $5,000

Thanks Dizzy.


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2016 at 8:23am
Campaspe Vobis Gold41Your SongLil Miss Hayley $      5,000.00 Cornish/Gaskin (VIC)
CampaspeVobis Gold225KruptJayjaye $    12,000.00 R Balfour (SA)
Campaspe Reserve Vobis Gold1AnacheevaFairness $      5,000.00 D Curran (VIC)


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2016 at 10:09am
tillyras ReserveInglis Scone58Poet's VoiceChagrin D'Amour $      1,500.00 Don't Tell Mon  J Kelly (NW) 



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