Flying Artie
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Topic: Flying Artie
Posted By: djebel
Subject: Flying Artie
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 6:39pm
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Posted By: Rosscoe
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 7:22pm
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Djebel - it would help a bit if you could explain why this pedigree was thrown up?? Are you on him for the Golden Slipper or is there something about his the pedigree you'd like to share? It would be great if a left-field sire,like Artie Schiller, could produce a 2yr old G1 winner here. ------------- Current Stable - Soul Star & Adivinar + Lady Vega |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 7:25pm
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I got overly excited when I saw his 3rd dam. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Rosscoe
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 7:30pm
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Ahhhh! With you now .... Let's hope "Artie" - Loosens Up very nicely for the GS!! ------------- Current Stable - Soul Star & Adivinar + Lady Vega |
Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 7:33pm
| Great spotting Djebel. Without having stats to back me up - Rubiton mares look to really pass on quality |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 7:36pm
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Twas pointed out on twitter. https://twitter.com/atc_races" rel="nofollow - Bit of rain? Getting my wet weather practice in! https://twitter.com/Longines" rel="nofollow - @Longines https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoldenSlipper?src=hash" rel="nofollow - #GoldenSlipper hope Flying Artie takes a dip in the pool https://twitter.com/rosehillgardens" rel="nofollow - Rosehill Gardens and https://twitter.com/MickPriceRacing" rel="nofollow - Mick Price Racing  ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Flight
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 7:43pm
Not to mention Better Fantasy's great granddad was Djebel.  ------------- “The probability of a certain set of circumstances coming together in a meaningful (or tragic) way is so low that it simply cannot be considered mere coincidence. ” ― V.C. King |
djebel wrote:Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 7:48pm
| Its an OMEN....get on |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 7:53pm
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2016 at 12:02am
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I think I will quinella Flying Artie and French Fern BOL to all ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2016 at 3:06am
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Does Artie Schiller have any sons at stud in Australia or NZ? |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2016 at 7:31am
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The mare is also inbred to Better Boy through son Century and daughter Better Fantasty. That can be very good for a broodmare to have. This is her best so far but her first two have also won. But very topical on the Better Loosen up dies. Lets hope for a good ride and no silly antics from the colt.
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Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 1:12pm
| problem with his sesamoid, out until spring |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2016 at 5:31pm
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Be interesting to see how he is when he cools down. He is a tip top horse. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Aurelius
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2016 at 5:35pm
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Certainly is. MP said he switched off, need to be pretty good to do that and win. |
Posted By: vaopoaljsie
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2016 at 5:36pm
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Interesting comment post race from Mick when asked to compare to his G1 winning stablemate. I know which one I'll be backing in the Coolmore. |
Posted By: saintly96
Date Posted: 12 Oct 2016 at 5:36pm
| Agree. He was cruelled by bad barriers as a 2 year old. Was as good as any of them. |
Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 4:39pm
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Just been sold to China Horse Club Will race in CHC colours next prep Could be aimed at the Diamond Jubilee @ Royal Ascot |
Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 8:17pm
Any other 3Yo colts they dont own?
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Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 8:52pm
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They now have the Slipper winner, Diamond winner and Coolmore winner. They are ahead of the game. ------------- You're either Einstein or Frankenstein in this game. |
Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 8:54pm
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And I might add that's better IMHO than Darley, Coolmore and Arrowfield having them all. ------------- You're either Einstein or Frankenstein in this game. |
Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 8:58pm
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Didn't Luskin Park Stud own him? I'd have thought they would've wanted to stand him at their stud? |
Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 9:12pm
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They still have some of him and no doubt got millions for the rest. Good luck to all, he is a ripper. ------------- You're either Einstein or Frankenstein in this game. |
Posted By: Smoke and Mirrors
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 9:30pm
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China horse club have bought a controlling interest and stud rights. ------------- "Go Hard or Go Home” |
Posted By: Campaspe
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 9:57pm
| Just how many stallions are Newgate planning to stand? |
Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 01 Nov 2016 at 10:04pm
20 |
Posted By: Ringlock
Date Posted: 03 Nov 2016 at 4:00pm
Luskin Park don't stand stallions. Luskin Park is owned by one-time NSW Police Minister Paul Whelan. He bought the horse as a yearling and his mate Wilf Mula took a share. |
Posted By: JoanFerguson
Date Posted: 18 Feb 2017 at 4:58pm
| Is he out yet |
Posted By: mc41
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 10:06am
| Haven't seen it mentioned,did he go off in the barrier as I'm sure Oliver was thrown out the back ? |
Posted By: Flight
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 10:24am
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Yes he did. Same time as The Quarterback was going off. Flying Artie Fractious in the barrier and reared prior to the start. Got its head up when over racing in the early stages. Rider Damien Oliver could offer no explanation for the performance other than Flying Artie raced fresh and over raced in the early stages. A post race veterinary examination failed to reveal any obvious abnormality and a sample was taken for analysis. ------------- “The probability of a certain set of circumstances coming together in a meaningful (or tragic) way is so low that it simply cannot be considered mere coincidence. ” ― V.C. King |
Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 11:45am
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My take as someone who backed him and lost is that he was sweating behind the barriers a bit. He reared and threw Oliver off when the Quarterback went off. He jumped awkwardly and all this as well as freshness made him over race. I wrote my bet off at the 800 m mark. Oliver therefore fought and restrained him and in doing so , tucked him in behind runners to try and settle him. This in turn led to him being trapped in behind a wall of runners when the time to go came, as they raced as a pretty tight group with room only down either side. Not that he would have had the petrol left to finish off like the winner anyway. His only unplaced run ever and a page full of excuses but his bubble burst with a bang yesterday. Perhaps he needed another trial under his belt, hindsight as they say is a wonderful thing, but he did seem too fresh for his own good. ------------- You're either Einstein or Frankenstein in this game. |
Posted By: Go Flash Go
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2017 at 12:21pm
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In the Spring on Derby day Flying Artie was he pick of the yard before the the race up on his toes a magnificent type compared to his rivals and in great condition.
Not the same horse in the yard yesterday imho and the rest panned out that way.
Not sure what Mick Price can do to put the pieces back together again he's got a job ahead of him and hope he can work something out.
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2017 at 9:12am
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Not sure what to make of him. He should have the measure of the other 3yos on his Coolmore win and I'm not worried by the older horses like Spieth. So that makes him the Newmarket winner- simple. The only trouble is I would be basing things only on the Coolmore win. That was a big spike over my general assessment of the horse and generally, taking out the Coolmore run, I wouldn't want him in a Newmarket. Yeah I know you are rusted on FArtie fans and every run is gold, apart from the Lightning, but that's not how I see him. Is the Coolmore run the real FArtie or was it an aberration?
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2017 at 9:20am
| Bah- just noticed this is in the Stallions section- it will sink without trace and I'll never find it again. |
Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2017 at 9:43am
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Blub blub blub blub............. ------------- You're either Einstein or Frankenstein in this game. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2017 at 3:50pm
No it wont. It will be easier to find than when or if it was in the racing section. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2017 at 5:11pm
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I have him going for a six figure sum . Come on Tlaz jump aboard , I don't need you pulling his tail up the straight.Only positive vibes please ------------- The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on.... |
Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2017 at 8:11pm
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Go flash go's assessment is spot on. Looked the best in Nov. altho swap his run in the race with astern & Astern wins. I also backed F Artie in the Coolmore. Couldn't have him in the Lightning. Looked like a miler. Also the delay cooked him. Can't see him improving for the Newmkt. Spieth will.
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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 02 Mar 2017 at 9:54am
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From a breeding point of view, love Rubiton being there. Furious how often does Rubiton appear in a good horses page?
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 5:26pm
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Averaged $102k for the Magic Millions off a $38.5k fee. Making money, but this year's fee of $27,500 might not be the bottom?
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 6:51pm
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Sorry Isaac I've got other problems at the moment and only look in here occasionally. I love Rubiton as I admired him as a racehorse and of course he's Century/Better Boy line and I love to see that outcross in pedigrees. But Rubiton who unlike Century's other good son Centaine got to stay in Australia. He has St Magnus (son of Fair Isle - so the female cross for her brothers Fairway and Pharos) who is also by Sansovino (by Swynford from Gondolette grandam of Selene dam of Hyperion and ancestress of Sir Tristram). The other key point is Todman. With quite a few lines now with Noholme in them ie Spirit of Boom it is lovely to find one with Todman. Then you have all the Hyperion or Sir Tristram lines which should fire well with a mare with this boy in the pedigree. So while Flying Artie is probably the best recent on you have Playing God now firing at stud and the older boys Danerich and Dash for Cash both having done a good job from lesser mares. El Roco is another which sired a G1 winner at the weekend.
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Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 9:20pm
| Time will be Flying Arties salvation |
Posted By: Taxidriver
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2020 at 10:35pm
| Agree Glencoe. They did not look like precocious types and there was a fair bit of Rubiton in some..Probably be better as 3yos. |
Posted By: Daraabah
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2020 at 10:01pm
| I really like the way he has been bred...I'm betting he'll get a few nice ones... |
Posted By: robbo
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2020 at 11:25am
| Just bumping this thread as I've chosen Flying Artie for my mare for the upcoming season. More of a match on type than pedigree, and I thought he was really good value this year, especially with a nice buzz around about his two year olds - everyone who has one seems to like them. Anyone have any inside word on how the Flying Arties are travelling? |
Posted By: Take2
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2020 at 2:15pm
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like him as a sire robbo imo matches up well with encosta and exceed and excel mares, (s'pose there's heaps of stallions that do that) crying out for danehill again imo , could reignite some of the danehill / star kingdom fire, considering f'arty has todman and noholme in the 5th / 6th remove, and with danehill appearing as far back as 5th i feel theirs some potential there, but this isn't about flying Artie per se is is, love to know who ya mare is , he had some nice types at the sales ------------- change is simply a destination on a journey reached by taking the first step (i said that) lol www.3rdmillenniumbloodstock.com.au |
Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2020 at 7:54pm
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Just do it. A very wise decision He will be a better sire than many of the current 2nd & 3rd season sires asking in excess of $20k I've retired commercially but if my 1 breed to race mare wasn't such a bad traveller she'd be there in a flash Just dont expect pre-xmas precocity. Look for a spring 3yo
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2020 at 2:16am
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Ive got a little slice of one with Will Clarken. Shes a 3/4 sister to Ruban Bleu, mums a Fastnet Rock & 4th dam is Rolls. Its a bit hard to tell from this side of the border, but she looks reasonably forward in the vision weve seen so far. That might just be the Fastnet bulk, but we think shes every possible chance to get a start pre-Xmas.... that, or bills for four months of full work
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Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 12:32am
| Anyone who likes F Artie must breed this year. We'll never get in for $10K+ again |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 12:29pm
| I picked two cheap ones for the comp this season so must of liked them. But brain so foggy this year I just can't remember. I did like his pedigree though as I picked him from the yearling sales. |
Posted By: robbo
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 3:18pm
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Hi Take 2 - mare is Exciting Dynasty (Excites ex General's Dynasty). As I said, not necessarily a pedigree match but more on type - she is very much in the mould of General Nediym. Danehill comes through Excites/Danewin and while I wouldnb't be scared to replicate Danehill, I take your point re Star Kingdom. And Glencoe, I agree - the $10K plus GST was tremendous value in my books. He has more named two year olds than Capitalist, if that's any indication. |
Posted By: Grey Affair
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2020 at 2:03pm
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An early 2yo winner for Flying Artie at Eagle Farm with the victory of Princess Bojack. |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 03 Oct 2020 at 3:20pm
| Another winning decendant of Eight Carat and carries the Noholme/Todman cross which I love. Didn't pick her to follow though. |
Posted By: robbo
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2021 at 2:33pm
| Bourbon Flyer gets the choccies on debut at Randwick, taking Flying Artie to outright leader on the First Season Sires list by winners with 5. Humming along very nicely, with Artorius flying the flag on Saturday in the Blue Diamond. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2021 at 2:38pm
Mick Price, the stallion making king of Vic.  ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 4:32pm
And Flying Artie sires the Diamond winner. Hope your mare's in foal Robbo.
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Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 4:39pm
Not for a LONG time now ------------- Time is a flat circle |
Posted By: Vivarchi
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 4:40pm
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Rapt to see Artie get the Diamond winner 1st up. His win up the straight at Flemington as a 3yo was one of my most memorable wins, and i've seen a lot. It was a Grand Final and he brained them. Have been following them right thru the sales and have picked a few in my notebook. Well done Glencoe on being so bullish on him too.
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Posted By: robbo
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 4:52pm
On first cover - due in August. You bloody beauty. |
Posted By: TJMitchell
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 4:56pm
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Very nice ------------- Time is a flat circle |
Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2021 at 8:57pm
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Most F Arties have two things in common. Scope & Balance. Hence many judges expected them to take time It is their balanced builds that ha allowed them to cope with early preps
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