Advice - Storm Siren
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Topic: Advice - Storm Siren
Posted By: StormSiren
Subject: Advice - Storm Siren
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 2:03pm
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Hi guys, She'll probably be racing on a little longer, but keen to get any opinions on a stallion for my girl Storm Siren... big girl (around 16.3hh). Currently has two placings and another couple of fourths in Sydney, has won three at provincial/country level. Hoping she can get a city win or two in before we retire her. Her breeding is Excites x De Chorus (Unbridled's Song)  ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 2:06pm
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She has no duplications in the first five generations... my initial thoughts were to maybe try and reinforce either staging or cotehele house? ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 3:09pm
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Probably too close for Staging. With the cotehele house you can always use sires with crosses to stallions that have worked with the line ie Zabeel, Danehill, Habitat or Bletchingly. The best recent is the Centaine grandam. Centaine has Century, Vain, Todman, Better Boy etc. You can look for crosses of those. Further back the line produced Beaupatir who's sire was inbred to Quiver. That is the family of Show a Heart but he's way to big for her. There were decent winners by Straight Strike who also crosses well with Lonhro. Lonhro by Octagonal gives you a cross to the family of Danewin so his sons could also be looked at. One who is totally different but look ok on paper would be Keep the Faith. Not dear but not prolific either. He sired Trust in a Gust so can get a good one. Sunday Silence decends from Quiver. Someone on here stands Fast 'n' Famous and he has Zabeel and Bletchingly blood so maybe also worth a look.
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Posted By: Aurelius
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 3:26pm
| Dalakhani |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 3:36pm
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A sire well worth consideration from a line-breeding perspective is Redente (Redoute's Choice - Stella Cadente), a non-commercial but
successful sire considering his lack of opportunity. His book doubled in 2015, reflecting his
recent achievements. A mating with Storm Siren would produce Danehill 3 x 3, Centaine (Century/Better Boy) 3 x 3, Bletchingly (Biscay/Star Kingdom) 4, 5 x 6, Northern Dancer 5, 6 x 6, Nijinsky 5 x 7, Relic 6, 7 x 7, Sir Gaylord 7, 7 x 7, Petition 7 x 6 and 5 strains of Natalma. |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 3:54pm
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Thanks all. Aurelous, if Dalakhani is still standing over here when she is retired, and still at a fee that we can pay, will definitely try. Furious, would Toorak Toff be an option if Show A Heart isn't? Note that he has both Bletchingly and Habitat in his pedigree, Second Chance will keep Redente in mind for when we breed one to keep... not a massive fan of duplicating Danehill close but if I was going to do it going through a son of Redoute's would be the way... ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 21 Jan 2016 at 4:45pm
| Well you have time on your side to see it Toorak has what it takes. I haven't liked all the types he throws but he was a big horse also and they take time. I hope he can make it but at the moment he's probably too dear. |
Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 22 Jan 2016 at 10:39pm
| I'd go for Hussonet or Reset if she was mine. |
Posted By: Lopartega
Date Posted: 24 Jan 2016 at 2:07pm
| For mine the SA based stallion Host provides some really important duplications especially between the 7th and 12th removes. The relationship between his dam (Colonna Traiana) and Storm Siren is quite substantial. That's were I would send her if she was mine. Good Luck! |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2017 at 2:07pm
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So for her maiden year, after some improvements in the family with her half-sister Siren's Fury picking up 2x blacktype placings and half-brother Hot King Prawn gaining a lot of notice in Hong Kong we decided to go with a proven commodity and hopefully a sire that will appeal to a lot of buyer - Star Witness. Fingers crossed we get a nice type! ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 02 Aug 2017 at 3:33pm
| good luck storm siren |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2017 at 8:47am
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In foal off the one serving, due mid-August. Nice to see Star Witness going on with the job with a few more group winners and almost getting the second G1 winner with Fuhryk. Also good to see Stormy's half-brother Hot King Prawn still unbeaten in HK, going for 5 from 5 this weekend. Will be interested to see what the half by Your Song makes at the Easter Sale next year. Exciting times  ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2017 at 9:27am
All the very best 
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2017 at 9:43am
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 8:01pm
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Not long to go now! Fingers crossed for a safe delivery and a healthy foal.. anything more a bonus! Have had her 1/2 sister Siren’s Fury pick up a G3 in the autumn, and with Hot King Prawn now rated 112 will be seeing him in blacktype races come the spring. Exciting times! We’ve got her booked in to Churchill this season.. I’m particularly excited about this cross, there’s a lot going on that seems to work from a nicks and crosses perspective  ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 8:07pm
------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 8:08pm
| Wrong Churchill mate. |
Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 8:19pm
Wrong one?I hear Winston is shooting blanks! Are you sure 
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 8:21pm
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Galileo x Meow (Storm Cat) I like the Success Express - Air Express, Storm Cat - Unbridled’s Song, Miswaki - Fappiano & Galileo - Danehill ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 8:36pm
------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 8:37pm
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Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 8:49pm
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Gay, when I click on the “Click image to enlarge” I get some images of some vastly different bellies. On3 certainly took my eye 
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 8:58pm
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If you're serious, your device needs a thorough clean, anti virus needs an update & run or at the very least, an ad blocker ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2018 at 3:08pm
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.... and it's a filly! Mum and bub both doing well, here she is 2 days in... all apparently going well for this first time mum  ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2018 at 3:15pm
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Nice healthy foal SS.
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Posted By: Prince of Penzance
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2018 at 3:22pm
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Cheeky little girl poking her tongue out
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 20 Aug 2018 at 4:55pm
| Great photo SS, certainly look contented. |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 1:15pm
I think she's coming along well.. a little small currently (although Storm is a big girl so maybe just comparatively) ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 7:49pm
| Looking good to me also. Lovely to get a good looking foal. |
Posted By: PhillipC
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2018 at 9:48pm
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Very cute and looks well put together. Congrats :-) ------------- http://www.equinehaven.com.au |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2018 at 9:06pm
Exciting night, Storm's half Hot King Prawn picked up his first group win over in Hong Kong - so second G3 winning sibling! Page is getting better by the day  ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2018 at 10:55pm
| That is a very nice foal. Definitely keeping up the standard of an ever improving family |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2018 at 1:41pm
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Thats wonderful for you, SS. How exciting ! ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 9:32am
Most recent pics from two weeks back  ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2018 at 9:34am
And this one. Hot King Prawn runs in his next G2 before the international races next weekend so fingers crossed, and Storm had her 45 day positive come back for Churchill so looking at another August foal all being well.. ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 11:14am
| The ANZ news bulletin has the Sorm Siren colt from this year (different head marking) as one of the foals advertising Churchill! |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 11:47am
Heard the Coolmore team went out to look at him last week, certainly not complaining. Absolutely loving this little guy.... ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 11:50am
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And another one for good measure. Visited him last month and absolutely adore him... he's got some spunk, independent young man... Storm was covered by More Than Ready last week so hopefully another nice one to come next year all being well  ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 11:54am
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Well done StormSiren, and Storm Siren! He looks lovely.
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2019 at 10:34am
| Yes a beautiful strong foal. All any breeder can hope for. |
Posted By: slowdown
Date Posted: 17 Sep 2019 at 11:30am
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Congrats Storm Siron. Wonderful coal ------------- Rebel - racing. Lionel - in work. Glory - spelling. Ray - spelling. A Wee Nip - in work. |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 25 Nov 2019 at 12:47pm
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Haven't had a lot of luck with her this spring but finally got a positive back - 15 days to Pride of Dubai who I was keen on at the beginning of the year. Really hope she holds, I think its a good cross and he's off to a great start ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2022 at 12:25pm
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Well... was very much living the dream last week before last. Storm's first foal by Star Witness, Sirens Star, broke her maiden at Canterbury at her third start coming from way out the back. Was great to see  ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2022 at 12:30pm
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Bit of an update on the rest of the family since it seems I haven't updated in a while. Her second foal, the Churchill colt, sold well to Mark Kavanagh and has since been named 'First Immortal'. Like mum, charges on from back in the field the two starts he's had and is nommed for a 2050m race at Moe this Friday which may be the ticket. She had a colt by Pride of Dubai who we sold at a massive loss at the Adelaide sales, just to see him go through the R2R sales at 10x our sale price... Hong Kong buyer so will see where he ends up. This year she had a colt by Written By who is doing well, have been trying her with Portland Sky but no luck so may have a final roll of the dice with Written By again, otherwise she misses the season. Here's a pic of the colt below. ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2022 at 12:31pm
------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2022 at 2:58pm
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Swings and roundabouts! BOL as time progresses SS.
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 02 May 2023 at 3:09pm
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Figured I'd stop my dancing long enough to post that First Immortal, Storm's second foal, has been nominated for the South Australian Derby next week. To say I'm excited is a HUGE understatement ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 02 May 2023 at 3:46pm
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Posted By: oldflight
Date Posted: 04 May 2023 at 12:03pm
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Good Luck Storm Siren, Mr Kav knows how to win a SA Derby he won in 2004 with Hard to Get owned by Joe Ricciardo of Mandivian fame it was pouring with rain and we got 15/1
Great day it was |
Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2023 at 4:42am
| I see First Immortal saluted again ,nice horse . |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2023 at 5:01pm
| that was a great win Storm Siren |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 01 Jul 2023 at 5:08pm
| And Storm Siren's other named foal Siren's Star won over 1400m at Warwick Farm last Wednesday! |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 02 Jul 2023 at 1:46pm
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Thanks all! Was a big week - I retained a share in Sirens Star so double the excitement there. First Immortal quite literally had me in tears with that performance yesterday. Feels like I’m dreaming to have bred one like him so quickly. Fingers crossed he figures the whole game out, will be fun to watch The Pride of Dubai half has gone a bit quiet. HK buyers so we’ll see if he’s exported. We have a Written By colt that will sell next year, rated highly by the farm so will see how he fairs ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2023 at 2:44pm
| That was as massive win Storm Siren - congratulations. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2023 at 3:05pm
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He is verry good. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: VSP.
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2023 at 3:26pm
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First Immortal is a Group winner waiting to happen after that win. Fabulous. Congrat's Storm Siren, very exciting. ------------- www.snowshoecats.webs.com |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2023 at 8:49am
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Thanks furious, djebel and VSP. This horse is going to give me a heart attack I swear... such an amazing run yesterday from the carpark barrier to come within a length of winning the Bart Cummings. The horse is all heart. ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: JoH
Date Posted: 08 Oct 2023 at 7:00pm
Congrats on yesterday's effort SS  top horse. That said am surprised you haven't made mention of all the screaming, yelling and general jumping up and down coming from this house during the race. ------------- suck it up ... Life isn't run at w.f.a. :) |
Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 10 Oct 2023 at 8:18am
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Hahaha... we had around 20 people around for a BBQ, and I can promise there was a whole lot of that as he was breaking away to challenge in the straight! My anxiety goes through the roof beforehand so not sure I was the best company prior to it  ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |
Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2024 at 5:53pm
Just wonder if the Pride of Dubai has gone through any sale ?
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StormSiren wrote:Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2024 at 8:27am
goldey:
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Posted By: StormSiren
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2024 at 6:03pm
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Thanks Dizzy, Yes Goldey - sold at a massive loss in Adelaide and picked back up to be sold 10x the price at R2R. He was named recently, had his first trial this week up in Queensland. Hong Kong owners. The Written By colt sold very nicely at Magic Millions for $220,000 to Waterhouse & Bott - we bought the tail back in him to maintain an interest. Storm is currently in foal to St Mark's Basilica, and I'm currently doing some analysis to put forward suggestions for this season to the ownership group. ------------- Lost in the magical world of racing. Storm Siren, Sirens Star, Elpis & Wait For It. |