The Black Caviar Family
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Topic: The Black Caviar Family
Posted By: djebel
Subject: The Black Caviar Family
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 11:14am
Every so often you see a new member of the family make their debut. I might keep a track of them in this thread.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 11:15am
Race 1 Echuca
BELIEVING (AUS) | Bay gelding 2012 | |
Bel Esprit Bay 1999 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Flaming Page Bay 1959 | Bull Page Flaring Top | 1947 1947 | 4-m 8-f | Crimson Saint Chestnut 1969 | Crimson Satan Chestnut 1959 | Spy Song Papila | 1943 1943 | 2-o 26> | Bolero Rose Chestnut 1958 | Bolero First Rose | 1946 1946 | 6-a 8-c | Bespoken Brown 1990 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Chestnut 1952 | Court Martial Sans Tares | 1942 1939 | 1-p 13-c | Elated Bay 1957 | Orgoglio Rarcamba | 1949 1946 | 23-a A10 | Vin d'Amour Bay 1981 | Adios Bay 1970 | Silly Season Angello | 1962 1962 | 1-g 6-f | Gliteren Chestnut 1969 | Final Orders Sunny Gold | 1963 1957 | 2-c 34> | Hypatia Chestnut 2004 | Distant Music Bay 1997 | Distant View Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Seven Springs Chestnut 1982 | Irish River La Trinite | 1976 1976 | 1-w 16-a | Musicanti Bay 1991 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Populi Bay or brown 1975 | Star Envoy Sister Shannon | 1968 1965 | 8-f 4-f | Danavia Bay 2000 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 4m x 5m,5m | | Nijinsky | 3m x 4f | | Vain | 3f x 5f |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 11:18am
One start one win.
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| SCANDIMANIA (AUS) | Bay filly 2012 | |
Magnus Bay 2002 | Flying Spur Bay 1992 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Rolls Chestnut 1984 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Grand Luxe Chestnut 1974 | Sir Ivor Fanfreluche | 1965 1967 | 8-g 4-g | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Great Occasion | 1962 1965 | 1-g 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Scampering | 1968 1970 | 19-b 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Folk Song | 1969 1968 | 21-a 1-p | Belleluia Bay or brown 2006 | Bel Esprit Bay 1999 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Crimson Saint Chestnut 1969 | Crimson Satan Bolero Rose | 1959 1958 | 26> 8-c | Bespoken Brown 1990 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Vin d'Amour Bay 1981 | Adios Gliteren | 1970 1969 | 6-f 34> | Song of the Sun Grey 2000 | Desert Sun Bay 1988 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Foreign Courier | 1977 1979 | 7-a A4 | Solar Chestnut 1973 | Hotfoot L'Anguissola | 1966 1967 | 1-w 10-b | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Folk Song | 1969 1968 | 21-a 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 5m x 5m | | Danzig | 4m x 5m | | Vain | 4f x 4f,4f | | | | Song of Norway | 3f x 3f |
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 11:27am
Believe Scandimania is part owned by Whitters who was a member here from Day 1 but hasn't been active for quite some years now.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 11:31am
SCARLET MAGNOLIA (AUS) | Chestnut filly 2012 | |
Magnus Bay 2002 | Flying Spur Bay 1992 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Rolls Chestnut 1984 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Grand Luxe Chestnut 1974 | Sir Ivor Fanfreluche | 1965 1967 | 8-g 4-g | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Great Occasion | 1962 1965 | 1-g 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Scampering | 1968 1970 | 19-b 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Folk Song | 1969 1968 | 21-a 1-p | Scarletta Chestnut 2006 | Distant Music Bay 1997 | Distant View Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Seven Springs Chestnut 1982 | Irish River La Trinite | 1976 1976 | 1-w 16-a | Musicanti Bay 1991 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Populi Bay or brown 1975 | Star Envoy Sister Shannon | 1968 1965 | 8-f 4-f | Danavia Bay 2000 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 5m x 5m,5m | | Danehill | 3m x 3f | | Mr Prospector | 4f x 4m | | | | Scandinavia | 2m x 3f |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 11:41am
Anybody know what has happened to Arctic Flight ?
She has not raced since September 2013 is a 7yo mare but is not listed as being served.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 11:49am
Lionhearted - Lindsay Park Lily's Reward - Peter Moody Miss Scandilous - Simon Zahra
MISS SCANDILOUS (AUS) | Bay or brown filly 2012 | |
Magnus Bay 2002 | Flying Spur Bay 1992 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Rolls Chestnut 1984 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Grand Luxe Chestnut 1974 | Sir Ivor Fanfreluche | 1965 1967 | 8-g 4-g | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Great Occasion | 1962 1965 | 1-g 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Scampering | 1968 1970 | 19-b 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Folk Song | 1969 1968 | 21-a 1-p | Midnight Blues Brown 2004 | Distant Music Bay 1997 | Distant View Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Seven Springs Chestnut 1982 | Irish River La Trinite | 1976 1976 | 1-w 16-a | Musicanti Bay 1991 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Populi Bay or brown 1975 | Star Envoy Sister Shannon | 1968 1965 | 8-f 4-f | Midnight Sun Grey 1995 | Western Symphony Bay 1981 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Millicent Bay 1969 | Cornish Prince Milan Mill | 1962 1962 | 1-s 22-d | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Folk Song | 1969 1968 | 21-a 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 5m x 5m,5m | | Mr Prospector | 4f x 4m | | Song of Norway | 3f x 3f | | | | Nijinsky | x 4f,4m |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 11:49am
Its surprising how many have been bred back to the family.
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 12:00pm
djebel wrote:
Anybody know what has happened to Arctic Flight ?
She has not raced since September 2013 is a 7yo mare but is not listed as being served.
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Deceased (Racing Australia)
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 12:07pm
Scarlet Magnolia listed as retired.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 12:27pm
Dizzy wrote:
djebel wrote:
Anybody know what has happened to Arctic Flight ?
She has not raced since September 2013 is a 7yo mare but is not listed as being served.
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Deceased (Racing Australia) |
Thanks. That is not the news I or she wanted to read.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 12:33pm
Believing was I think ridden by a 4 kilo claiming apprentice.
He will win plenty of races when he carries a senior jockey on board.
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Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 12:43pm
djebel wrote:
Believing was I think ridden by a 4 kilo claiming apprentice.
He will win plenty of races when he carries a senior jockey on board.
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Can't get any more senior than Max Allen who rode him today. He's in his 40s and has been riding for 20+ years. Think you have your wires crossed.
Was a good run by the horse today. Blackbooker for sure.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 2:30pm
SkyDancer wrote:
djebel wrote:
Believing was I think ridden by a 4 kilo claiming apprentice.
He will win plenty of races when he carries a senior jockey on board.
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Can't get any more senior than Max Allen who rode him today. He's in his 40s and has been riding for 20+ years. Think you have your wires crossed.
Was a good run by the horse today. Blackbooker for sure. |
Seems you are correct. He rides like a 4 kilo claimer.
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2015 at 3:02pm
An unraced youngster will can miss the start irrespective of all the barrier work it's been given and the best efforts of any rider. ps Matty (or Max) has somehow managed to ride 626 winners at a strike rate of 13.8% for prizemoney of almost $10m.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 1:03pm
BELUGA CAVIAR (AUS) | Bay colt 2011 | |
Redoute's Choice Bay 1996 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Pas de Nom Bay or brown 1968 | Admiral's Voyage Petitioner | 1959 1952 | 4-n 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Bay 1968 | Ribot Flower Bowl | 1952 1952 | 4-l 4-d | Spring Adieu Bay 1974 | Buckpasser Natalma | 1963 1957 | 1-s 2-d | Shantha's Choice Bay 1992 | Canny Lad Brown 1987 | Bletchingly Brown 1970 | Biscay Coogee | 1965 1959 | 2-o 7-a | Jesmond Lass Chestnut 1975 | Lunchtime Beautiful Dreamer | 1970 1967 | 7-f 14> | Dancing Show Bay 1983 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Show Lady Bay 1976 | Sir Ivor Best in Show | 1965 1965 | 8-g 8-f | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Bay 1962 | Tom Fool Double Deal | 1949 1946 | 3-j 1-g | Great Occasion Chestnut 1965 | Hornbeam Golden Wedding | 1953 1959 | 1-p 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Bay 1968 | Northern Dancer Lachine | 1961 1960 | 2-d 19-b | Scampering Bay 1970 | Misty Day Scamper Away | 1958 1966 | 5-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Chestnut 1952 | Court Martial Sans Tares | 1942 1939 | 1-p 13-c | Elated Bay 1957 | Orgoglio Rarcamba | 1949 1946 | 23-a A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Grey 1969 | Sovereign Path Ardneasken | 1956 1964 | 4-l 21-a | Folk Song Bay 1968 | Tudor Melody Lynsted | 1956 1960 | 1-n 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 4m,5m x 5m | | Natalma | 5m,5f x | | Lunchtime | 5f x 3m |
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2016 at 2:35pm
I wonder if Green Desert is better for this family than Danehill?... Just thinking Foreign Courier brings a bit more to the table than Razyana.
Similarly, do Flying Spur & Casino Prince work because of what Rolls (as Raise A Native & Sir Ivor add to Ciboulette) and Lady Capel (with Kenmare & Last Tycoon) add to the mix, not necessarily because they're descendants of the great Danehill.
Basically, the strategic, or pot-luck reinforcement or topping up of the Barb & Turk sirelines, either directly or through female descendant (within the first five generations).
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2016 at 1:51pm
LIONHEARTED 2yo Bay Colt D.O.B: 17-Sep-2013 by FASTNET ROCK from SCANDINAVIA Trialled today Sandown. T4, ran 2nd of 6 - have yet to watch.
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Posted By: .Swynford.
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 9:31am
This mare, Diva Von Tessa was purchased on my recommendation as suitable mare for Jimmy Choux.
The result of the planned mating is Lot 837 New Zealand Bloodstock Select Session.
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 9:49am
Certainly finds out if Vain does react with the family. As an aside Jimmy Choux is one you can still find a Todman double in. Through Centaine (2nd dam a daughter of Rain Shadow by Todman) and 3rd dam Imposing Choice a daughter of Todman's Epsom winning won Imposing.
I'd be looking for a filly from the Palatious family. Would also make an interesting cross for Jimmy Choux.
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Posted By: .Swynford.
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 7:26pm
Thanks for the insight and correction Furious (ocassionally I move a mare forward in the pedigree to help client understand and in excitement forget to put it back.)
This mare another purchased as special for Jimmy. This is how we inbred to Todman or to Jimmy's female side, and then Centaine's female side. Believe they both have bias this way
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Posted By: .Swynford.
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 7:34pm
Jimmy Choux / Asian Wind Lot 1199 New Zealand Bloodstock Festival Sale
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2016 at 9:19am
Love that one although the female line is not up to the Scandinavia family. Enough Biscay in the sire but if you take Cosmic Endeavour as the check maybe you need a bit of Mr Prospector and Sadler's Wells/Fairy King as well. But really think the Stratum mares will excel at stud. And I've noticed he has an affinity with Century blood and you get that in Centaine. To be truthful would prefer this one to the first but I haven't seen a photo of the first so that could sway me.
You don't have to change positions Swynford just highlight that this sire or mare appears just off the page. Sometimes it is what we can't see that makes a pedigree ie the Bletchingly/Danzig cross. They decend from the same mare Lady Susan in the 7th generation. But when put together these two stallions clicked.
As with Star Kingdom - it was his 7th dam Canterbury Pilgrim who was the first successful broodmare on his female line. She produced two wonderful sire sons in Chaucer and Swynford but it took awhile for the next to emerge didn't it. If the female line has a great one in it never give up. They will come back if given a chance.
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Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2016 at 9:41am
It is interesting that century does seem to trigger certain lines in a powerful way , I have been researching his influence in our breeding patterns and I must say he loves Bletchingly blood. Ps love both of your posts guys .
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Posted By: Nobody
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2016 at 10:01am
Typhon has a runner today in the 1st at Morphetville.
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Posted By: .Swynford.
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 5:28am
.Swynford. wrote:
This mare, Diva Von Tessa was purchased on my recommendation as suitable mare for Jimmy Choux.
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Posted By: .Swynford.
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2016 at 6:50pm
easy winner at Pakenhan today
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2016 at 7:58am
Wait till it wins a stakes race to get excited Djebel
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2016 at 6:02pm
Dizzy wrote:
LIONHEARTED 2yo Bay Colt D.O.B: 17-Sep-2013 by FASTNET ROCK from SCANDINAVIA Trialled today Sandown. T4, ran 2nd of 6 - have yet to watch. | Set to run in the boys BD Prelude.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2016 at 5:19pm
We missed this 8/1 winner at Moe on Saturday.
PRINCESS FREYA (AUS) | Bay filly 2013 | |
Wanted Bay 2006 | Fastnet Rock Bay 2001 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Piccadilly Circus Bay 1995 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Crimson Saint | 1967 1969 | 8-f 8-c | Gatana Bay 1989 | Marauding Twigalae | 1984 1979 | 4-i 2-f | Fragmentation Bay 2000 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Great Occasion | 1962 1965 | 1-g 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Scampering | 1968 1970 | 19-b 20-a | Southern Sprinter Bay 1990 | Southern Appeal Bay 1983 | Valid Appeal Southern Gem | 1972 1973 | 2-c 26> | Ceres Mist Grey 1982 | Plush Racice | 1971 1968 | 22-b 7-d | Sami Queen Bay 2009 | Commands Bay 1996 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Cotehele House Brown or black 1980 | My Swanee Grey 1963 | Petition Grey Rhythm | 1944 1954 | 16-g 8-j | Eight Carat Brown 1975 | Pieces of Eight Klairessa | 1963 1969 | 3-o 9-c | Baltics Bay or brown 2003 | Fusaichi Pegasus Bay 1997 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Angel Fever Bay 1990 | Danzig Rowdy Angel | 1977 1979 | 7-a 8-c | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Danzig | 4m x 4m,5f | | Danehill | 3m x 3m | | Snippets | 3f x 4f |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2016 at 5:30pm
This one will be interesting for the future.
Unnamed | last service date 08/10/2014 | |
Typhon (AUS) Brown 2007 | God's Own Bay 2002 | Redoute's Choice Bay 1996 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Razyana | 1977 1981 | 7-a 2-d | Shantha's Choice Bay 1992 | Canny Lad Dancing Show | 1987 1983 | 14> 8-f | Angel in Disguise Brown 1994 | Sky Chase Brown 1984 | Star Way Vice Reine | 1977 1977 | 6-e 3-e | Ziegfield Lass Bay or brown 1980 | Showdown Salote | 1961 1971 | 6-b 5-d | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Great Occasion | 1962 1965 | 1-g 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Scampering | 1968 1970 | 19-b 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Folk Song | 1969 1968 | 21-a 1-p | Myshinycash (AUS) Brown 2004 | Dash for Cash Grey 1998 | Secret Savings Bay 1991 | Seeking the Gold Bay 1985 | Mr Prospector Con Game | 1970 1974 | 13-c 5-c | Jurisdictional Chestnut 1986 | Damascus Resolver | 1964 1974 | 8-h 5-f | Gulistan Grey 1991 | Rubiton Brown 1983 | Century Ruby | 1969 1977 | 20> 4-l | Gulet Grey 1985 | Kalaglow Packet | 1978 1972 | 2-i 11-d | Shiny Mai Brown 1998 | Keltrice Bay 1990 | Kenmare Grey 1975 | Kalamoun Belle of Ireland | 1970 1964 | 9-c 1-m | Vain Display Chestnut 1981 | Vain Toltrice | 1966 1969 | A10 43> | Ellymai Brown 1992 | Rancho Ruler Brown 1984 | Rancher No No Nanette | 1979 1972 | 18> 2-g | Song of Kingston Grey 1983 | Bletchingly Love Song | 1970 1976 | 7-a 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Vain | 4f x 5f | | Love Song | 4f x 5f |
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Posted By: Lordy
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2016 at 10:48am
I have a small share in this Love Conquers All yearling from the BC family.
| LOVE CONQUERS ALL (AUS) B. 2006 GW 8 wins f:46 r:15 w:4 | | Mossman B. 1995 GW 4 wins f:654 r:560 w:396 SW:33 | | Success Express B. 1985 GW 4 wins f:708 r:629 w:460 SW:32 | | Hold Your Peace | | Speak John | | Prince John | 14 | | Nuit de Folies | 1 | | Blue Moon | | Eight Thirty | 11 | | Blue Grail | 12 | | Au Printemps | | Dancing Champ | | Nijinsky | 8 | | Mrs. Peterkin | 4 | | Lorgnette | | High Hat | 2 | | Mlle. Lorette | 17 | | Lichen Lady Ch. 1982 Wnr 2 wins f:6 r:6 w:4 SW:2 | | Twig Moss | | Luthier | | Klairon | 1 | | Flute Enchantee | 14 | | Top Twig | | High Perch | 10 | | Kimpton Wood | 1 | | Off Shore | | Grundy | | Great Nephew | 14 | | Word From Lundy | 8 | | No Relation | | Klairon | 1 | | Margaret Ann | 9 | | She's a Meanie Br. 1995 GW 7 wins f:7 r:6 w:5 SW:2 | | Prince Salieri Ch. 1986 GW 10 wins f:105 r:87 w:46 SW:3 | | Salieri | | Accipiter | | Damascus | 8 | | Kingsland | 9 | | Hogan's Sister | | Speak John | 1 | | Liz. Piet | 2 | | Caitie's Kingdom | | Planet Kingdom | | Star Kingdom | 1 | | Lilting | 2 | | Kiss Me Cait | | Showdown | 6 | | Arctic Belle | 13 | | Shekanwyn Br. 1987 Wnr 2 wins f:11 r:10 w:8 SW:1 | | Musical Phantasy | | Sham | | Pretense | 3 | | Sequoia | 9 | | Allie's Serenade | | Royal Serenade | 10 | | Allie's Pal | 8 | | Brauner Flight | | Brauner | | Never Bend | 19 | | Beesandbirds | 2 | | Heirship | | Bally Royal | 14 | | Romantic Crown | C4 | | BERGMAN (AUS) Gr. 2002 Pld f:3 r:1 w:1 | | Anabaa B. 1992 GW 8 wins f:1345 r:1153 w:827 SW:88 | | Danzig B. 1977 Wnr 3 wins f:1075 r:837 w:658 SW:198 | | Northern Dancer | | Nearctic | | Nearco | 4 | | Lady Angela | 14 | | Natalma | | Native Dancer | 5 | | Almahmoud | 2 | | Pas de Nom | | Admiral's Voyage | | Crafty Admiral | 8 | | Olympia Lou | 4 | | Petitioner | | Petition | 16 | | Steady Aim | 7 | | Balbonella B. or Br. 1984 GW 9 wins f:5 r:4 w:4 SW:4 | | Gay Mecene | | Vaguely Noble | | Vienna | 14 | | Noble Lassie | 1 | | Gay Missile | | Sir Gaylord | 2 | | Missy Baba | 3 | | Bamieres | | Riverman | | Never Bend | 19 | | River Lady | 10 | | Bergamasque | | Kashmir | 9 | | Bergame | 1 | | Midnight Sun Gr. 1995 SW 4 wins f:10 r:8 w:5 | | Western Symphony B. 1981 GW 3 wins f:772 r:640 w:391 SW:27 | | Nijinsky | | Northern Dancer | | Nearctic | 14 | | Natalma | 2 | | Flaming Page | | Bull Page | 4 | | Flaring Top | 8 | | Millicent | | Cornish Prince | | Bold Ruler | 8 | | Teleran | 1 | | Milan Mill | | Princequillo | 1 | | Virginia Water | 22 | | Song Of Norway Gr. 1982 NR f:12 r:11 w:11 SW:4 | | Vain | | Wilkes | | Court Martial | 1 | | Sans Tares | 13 | | Elated | | Orgoglio | 23 | | Rarcamba | A10 | | Love Song | | Warpath | | Sovereign Path | 4 | | Ardneasken | 21 | | Folk Song | | Tudor Melody | 1 | | Lynsted | 1 |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2016 at 12:57pm
Good luck.
Is is going to be called Smuffering ?
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Posted By: Lordy
Date Posted: 24 Apr 2016 at 10:20am
djebel wrote:
Good luck.
Is is going to be called Smuffering ? |
Don't think so.
I've got a couple of Hopfgarten owners involved though.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2016 at 11:33am
Epic Moment makes his debut at Caulfield tomorrow for Mick Price.
EPIC MOMENT (AUS) | Bay colt 2013 | |
Snitzel Bay 2002 | Redoute's Choice Bay 1996 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Shantha's Choice Bay 1992 | Canny Lad Brown 1987 | Bletchingly Jesmond Lass | 1970 1975 | 7-a 14> | Dancing Show Bay 1983 | Nijinsky Show Lady | 1967 1976 | 8-f 8-f | Snippets' Lass Bay 1993 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Great Occasion | 1962 1965 | 1-g 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Scampering | 1968 1970 | 19-b 20-a | Snow Finch Bay 1984 | Storm Bird Bay 1978 | Northern Dancer South Ocean | 1961 1967 | 2-d 4-j | A Realgirl Bay 1976 | In Reality Secret Verdict | 1964 1966 | 21-a 2-c | Song of the Sun Grey 2000 | Desert Sun Bay 1988 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Foreign Courier Bay 1979 | Sir Ivor Courtly Dee | 1965 1968 | 8-g A4 | Solar Chestnut 1973 | Hotfoot Brown 1966 | Firestreak Pitter Patter | 1956 1953 | 2-e 1-w | L'Anguissola Bay 1967 | Soderini Posh | 1961 1958 | 5-e 10-b | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Chestnut 1952 | Court Martial Sans Tares | 1942 1939 | 1-p 13-c | Elated Bay 1957 | Orgoglio Rarcamba | 1949 1946 | 23-a A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Grey 1969 | Sovereign Path Ardneasken | 1956 1964 | 4-l 21-a | Folk Song Bay 1968 | Tudor Melody Lynsted | 1956 1960 | 1-n 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 5m,5m x 5m | | Danzig | 4m x 4m |
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2016 at 11:50am
2005 - Dreamy - Maiden winner from 13 starts. [Bel Esprit] 2012 - Unrealistic - Maiden winner from 8 starts. [Lonhro] 2006 - Belleluia - Maiden winner from 2 starts. [Bel Esprit] 2011 - Fiscal Stimulus - Maiden from 2 starts [Bushranger] 2012 - Scandimania - BM 64 winner from 6 starts [Magnus] 2013 - Sweet Caviar - Placed from 2 starts [Wanted] 2007 - Unnamed God's Own 2008 - Outshine Me - Maiden winner from 11 starts. [E&E] 2011 - Unnamed Chosior
Immediate family disappointing to say the least, but for some reason Belleluia has been sent to Fastnet two years in a row, after 3 years of average to terrible stallions.
Epic moment sold for 675k to Sun Bloodstock and Eliza Park, who i thought were one and the same?
Crazy price considering the performance of the immediate family.
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Posted By: Ash
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2016 at 1:16pm
djebel wrote:
Epic Moment makes his debut at Caulfield tomorrow for Mick Price.
EPIC MOMENT (AUS) | Bay colt 2013 | |
Snitzel Bay 2002 | Redoute's Choice Bay 1996 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Shantha's Choice Bay 1992 | Canny Lad Brown 1987 | Bletchingly Jesmond Lass | 1970 1975 | 7-a 14> | Dancing Show Bay 1983 | Nijinsky Show Lady | 1967 1976 | 8-f 8-f | Snippets' Lass Bay 1993 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Great Occasion | 1962 1965 | 1-g 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Scampering | 1968 1970 | 19-b 20-a | Snow Finch Bay 1984 | Storm Bird Bay 1978 | Northern Dancer South Ocean | 1961 1967 | 2-d 4-j | A Realgirl Bay 1976 | In Reality Secret Verdict | 1964 1966 | 21-a 2-c | Song of the Sun Grey 2000 | Desert Sun Bay 1988 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Foreign Courier Bay 1979 | Sir Ivor Courtly Dee | 1965 1968 | 8-g A4 | Solar Chestnut 1973 | Hotfoot Brown 1966 | Firestreak Pitter Patter | 1956 1953 | 2-e 1-w | L'Anguissola Bay 1967 | Soderini Posh | 1961 1958 | 5-e 10-b | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Chestnut 1952 | Court Martial Sans Tares | 1942 1939 | 1-p 13-c | Elated Bay 1957 | Orgoglio Rarcamba | 1949 1946 | 23-a A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Grey 1969 | Sovereign Path Ardneasken | 1956 1964 | 4-l 21-a | Folk Song Bay 1968 | Tudor Melody Lynsted | 1956 1960 | 1-n 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 5m,5m x 5m | | Danzig | 4m x 4m |
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Fair boom on him too. Moody loved him.
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2016 at 2:33pm
Lionhearted [Fastnet Rock - Scandinavia] runs in races 5 at Caulfield tomorrow.
Already had 4 starts including:
0.8l 2nd in the Group 2 Skyline 1.6l 4th in the Group 2 Pago Pago
Based on those runs would have to be one of the leading chances, and if he wins tomorrow, the race being listed pretty much guarantees him staying an entire.
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Posted By: AussieOi
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2016 at 8:59pm
djebel wrote:
This one will be interesting for the future.
Unnamed | last service date 08/10/2014 | |
Typhon (AUS) Brown 2007 | God's Own Bay 2002 | Redoute's Choice Bay 1996 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Razyana | 1977 1981 | 7-a 2-d | Shantha's Choice Bay 1992 | Canny Lad Dancing Show | 1987 1983 | 14> 8-f | Angel in Disguise Brown 1994 | Sky Chase Brown 1984 | Star Way Vice Reine | 1977 1977 | 6-e 3-e | Ziegfield Lass Bay or brown 1980 | Showdown Salote | 1961 1971 | 6-b 5-d | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Great Occasion | 1962 1965 | 1-g 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Scampering | 1968 1970 | 19-b 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Folk Song | 1969 1968 | 21-a 1-p | Myshinycash (AUS) Brown 2004 | Dash for Cash Grey 1998 | Secret Savings Bay 1991 | Seeking the Gold Bay 1985 | Mr Prospector Con Game | 1970 1974 | 13-c 5-c | Jurisdictional Chestnut 1986 | Damascus Resolver | 1964 1974 | 8-h 5-f | Gulistan Grey 1991 | Rubiton Brown 1983 | Century Ruby | 1969 1977 | 20> 4-l | Gulet Grey 1985 | Kalaglow Packet | 1978 1972 | 2-i 11-d | Shiny Mai Brown 1998 | Keltrice Bay 1990 | Kenmare Grey 1975 | Kalamoun Belle of Ireland | 1970 1964 | 9-c 1-m | Vain Display Chestnut 1981 | Vain Toltrice | 1966 1969 | A10 43> | Ellymai Brown 1992 | Rancho Ruler Brown 1984 | Rancher No No Nanette | 1979 1972 | 18> 2-g | Song of Kingston Grey 1983 | Bletchingly Love Song | 1970 1976 | 7-a 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Vain | 4f x 5f | | Love Song | 4f x 5f |
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Will have to see how this one goes. I yearling prepped Shiny Mai.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 27 May 2016 at 9:11pm
Missed the win of Epic Moment at Cranbourne. 2YO quinella taking on their elders. The oldsters must be very very poor horses.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2016 at 7:08pm
Second Chance wrote:
Scarlet Magnolia listed as retired. |
She is also listed on the Studbook as having missed to Moshe.
Moshe (AUS) Bay or brown 2007 | Bel Esprit Bay 1999 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Crimson Saint Chestnut 1969 | Crimson Satan Bolero Rose | 1959 1958 | 26> 8-c | Bespoken Brown 1990 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Vin d'Amour Bay 1981 | Adios Gliteren | 1970 1969 | 6-f 34> | Helsinge Bay 2001 | Desert Sun Bay 1988 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Foreign Courier | 1977 1979 | 7-a A4 | Solar Chestnut 1973 | Hotfoot L'Anguissola | 1966 1967 | 1-w 10-b | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p | Scarlet Magnolia (AUS) Chestnut 2012 | Magnus Bay 2002 | Flying Spur Bay 1992 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Razyana | 1977 1981 | 7-a 2-d | Rolls Chestnut 1984 | Mr Prospector Grand Luxe | 1970 1974 | 13-c 4-g | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p | Scarletta Chestnut 2006 | Distant Music Bay 1997 | Distant View Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Seven Springs | 1970 1982 | 13-c 16-a | Musicanti Bay 1991 | Nijinsky Populi | 1967 1975 | 8-f 4-f | Danavia Bay 2000 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Razyana | 1977 1981 | 7-a 2-d | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Song of Norway | 1984 1982 | 20-a 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Nijinsky | 4m x 5f | | Vain | 4f,5f x 5f | | Danzig | 5m x 5m,5m | | | | Scandinavia | 3f x 3m,4f | | Danehill | x 4m,4f | | Mr Prospector | x 5f,5m |
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2016 at 10:10pm
djebel wrote:
[QUOTE=Second Chance]
Scarlet Magnolia listed as retired. |
She is also since listed on the Studbook as having missed to Moshe. QUOTE]
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2016 at 12:03am
Scandimania lit up the 955 at The Valley tonight. Ran a low 55, not good enough for the voucher, but went over the line hands & heels.
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Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2016 at 12:40am
Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 10:18am
John Zeilke has 2yo Bold Kingston entered at Eagle Farm on Saturday.
Your Song x Hypatia
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Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2016 at 12:01pm
Beliskner wrote:
55.09 |
Drew barrier 8 and rail out 2 metres. Carried her full 57 and not punched right out as she beat her bunny early on straightening. She could well have beaten the best time with a tad more luck. Very smart win.
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2016 at 12:58pm
One less for the family:Helsinge (AUS) 2001 | | | | Life Number: AUS00782337 | bay mare | Date of Birth: 02/09/2001 |
| Microchip Number: N/A | 2 stakeswinners & 31 stakeswins | DNA Typed: Y |
| | by Desert Sun (GB) 1987 | Contact: Gilgai Farm, Vic |
| from Scandinavia (AUS) 1994 | | |
| bred by Mr LJ Fleming, Mr R Crabtree, NSW | |
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| Australian Breeding Record | http://www.studbook.org.au/HorseMareProducePdf.aspx?mid=782337" rel="nofollow"> | http://www.studbook.org.au/HorseMareProducePdf.aspx?mid=782337" rel="nofollow - Season | DOB | Colour | Sex | Name or Last Service Date | Sire | Comment | 2016 | | | | 14/12/2015 | http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=772868" rel="nofollow - missed | | | | | | http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=825368" rel="nofollow - missed | 2015 | 15/10 | b | http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=1113760" rel="nofollow - 09/11/2014 | http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=997434" rel="nofollow - foal died after birth |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2017 at 12:42pm
BOOM TIME (AUS) | Bay colt 2011 | |
Flying Spur Bay 1992 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Pas de Nom Bay or brown 1968 | Admiral's Voyage Petitioner | 1959 1952 | 4-n 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Bay 1968 | Ribot Flower Bowl | 1952 1952 | 4-l 4-d | Spring Adieu Bay 1974 | Buckpasser Natalma | 1963 1957 | 1-s 2-d | Rolls Chestnut 1984 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Chestnut 1961 | Native Dancer Raise You | 1950 1946 | 5-f 8-f | Gold Digger Bay 1962 | Nashua Sequence | 1952 1946 | 3-m 13-c | Grand Luxe Chestnut 1974 | Sir Ivor Bay 1965 | Sir Gaylord Attica | 1959 1953 | 2-s 8-g | Fanfreluche Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Ciboulette | 1961 1961 | 2-d 4-g | Bit of a Ride Bay 1999 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Bay 1962 | Tom Fool Double Deal | 1949 1946 | 3-j 1-g | Great Occasion Chestnut 1965 | Hornbeam Golden Wedding | 1953 1959 | 1-p 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Bay 1968 | Northern Dancer Lachine | 1961 1960 | 2-d 19-b | Scampering Bay 1970 | Misty Day Scamper Away | 1958 1966 | 5-f 20-a | Lover's Chariot Grey 1987 | Zephyr Zip Bay 1976 | Zephyr Bay Brown 1970 | Biscay Heavenly Wind | 1965 1958 | 2-o 22-b | Corso Bay 1971 | Battle-Waggon Milk Biscuit | 1962 1966 | 3-o 24> | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Grey 1969 | Sovereign Path Ardneasken | 1956 1964 | 4-l 21-a | Folk Song Bay 1968 | Tudor Melody Lynsted | 1956 1960 | 1-n 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 4m,5f x 5m | | Natalma | 5m,5f x |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 2:32am
Bendigo race 2 today
BEL COMIC (AUS) | Bay colt 2013 | |
Bel Esprit Bay 1999 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Flaming Page Bay 1959 | Bull Page Flaring Top | 1947 1947 | 4-m 8-f | Crimson Saint Chestnut 1969 | Crimson Satan Chestnut 1959 | Spy Song Papila | 1943 1943 | 2-o 26> | Bolero Rose Chestnut 1958 | Bolero First Rose | 1946 1946 | 6-a 8-c | Bespoken Brown 1990 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Chestnut 1952 | Court Martial Sans Tares | 1942 1939 | 1-p 13-c | Elated Bay 1957 | Orgoglio Rarcamba | 1949 1946 | 23-a A10 | Vin d'Amour Bay 1981 | Adios Bay 1970 | Silly Season Angello | 1962 1962 | 1-g 6-f | Gliteren Chestnut 1969 | Final Orders Sunny Gold | 1963 1957 | 2-c 34> | McDanzy Bay 2005 | Danzero Bay 1991 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Confidentially Bay or brown 1978 | Kaoru Star Chestnut 1965 | Star Kingdom Kaoru | 1946 1955 | 1-g 31> | Idesa Brown 1972 | Idomeneo Faresa | 1960 1957 | 2-i 13-b | McHappy Chestnut 1998 | Rory's Jester Chestnut 1982 | Crown Jester Chestnut 1978 | Baguette Anjudy | 1967 1969 | 6-c 13-e | Rory's Rocket Grey 1973 | Roan Rocket Cantadora | 1961 1964 | 13-c 1-m | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Folk Song | 1969 1968 | 21-a 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 4m x 5m | | Vain | 3f x 4f |
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Posted By: Tlazolteotl
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 8:51am
If you have a good mare do you back your judgement and send her to the same sire every season until you know it's working or not or do you go for the scattershot approach and send her to a different sire every season?
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 10:38am
Ken McLean quotes Tesio in saying "if you think enough of a mating to do it once you must repeat 4 times" (not 100% certain of that number ) Secretariat was the result of about the 6th repeat. Hopefully someone can correct any errors in the above
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 2:16pm
Todman and Noholme were the first two of seven named foals to Star Kingdom.
Magic Symbol had three named foals to Star Kingdom 1st Star of Heaven 2nd Biscay 3rd Tattenham
Secretariat was the 10th foal for his dam Somethingroyal. She only went to Bold Ruler three times and he was the last try the first Syrian Sea also being a multiple stakes winner. Somethingroyal had 10 different mates for her 15 named foals.
Eight Carat had three named by Zabeel 1st Octagonal, 2nd Mouawad and 3rd Colombia. She also had three named by Sir Tristram 1st Kaapstad, 2nd La Brillante and 3rd Nine Carat. Seems Zabeel was the better mate.
Helsinge went to Bel Esprit three times with Black Caviar first foal.
Selene went to Phalaris three times for Sickle, Pharamond and lastly Salamis.
Ribt was the first of two named foals by Tenerani from his dam.
Ada Hunter visited bletchingly six times for 1st Kingston Town, 2nd Private Thoughts her only two stakes winners.
Promising had four named foals by Kaoru Star and the 1st was Luskin Star.
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 3:49pm
Maybe going back awhile furious but would you know how many times Eternal City went back to Delville Wood.
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 4:09pm
Eternal City has six named foals listed on the Stud Book site 1st Fort William, 2nd Redeswood, 3rd Prince Delville, 4thRoman Holiday, 5th Caesar, 6th Valerius
Fort William - minor SW Redeswood - Flight S Prince Delville - AJC Derby, Doomben Cup Roman Holiday - minor SW Caesar - Chipping Norton S, Queen Elizabeth S, Villier S, P J O'Shea etc Valerius - Chipping Norton S, Brisbane Cup PRINCE DELVILLE (AUS) | Brown colt 1951 | |
Delville Wood Brown 1942 | Bois Roussel Brown 1935 | Vatout Bay 1926 | Prince Chimay Chestnut 1915 | Chaucer Gallorette | 1900 1907 | 1-g 8-k | Vasthi Bay 1921 | Sans Souci Vaya | 1904 1909 | 3-n 3-c | Plucky Liege Bay 1912 | Spearmint Bay 1903 | Carbine Maid of the Mint | 1885 1897 | 2-h 1-c | Concertina Bay 1896 | St Simon Comic Song | 1881 1884 | 11-c 16-a | Everlasting Brown 1931 | Phalaris Brown 1913 | Polymelus Bay 1902 | Cyllene Maid Marian | 1895 1886 | 9-e 3-f | Bromus Bay 1905 | Sainfoin Cheery | 1887 1892 | 2-g 1-i | All's Blue Brown 1924 | Buchan Bay 1916 | Sunstar Hamoaze | 1908 1911 | 5-i 16-g | Eos Brown 1913 | Orby Renaissance | 1904 1902 | 26> 2-n | Eternal City Brown 1943 | Epigram Brown 1933 | Son-In-Law Brown 1911 | Dark Ronald Brown 1905 | Bay Ronald Darkie | 1893 1889 | 3-o 9-b | Mother-In-Law Bay 1906 | Matchmaker Be Cannie | 1892 1891 | 22-b 5-d | Flying Sally Chestnut 1919 | Flying Orb Chestnut 1911 | Orby Stella | 1904 1890 | 26> 22-a | Salamandra Brown 1913 | St Frusquin Electra | 1893 1906 | 22-b 19-c | Fair City Bay 1939 | Fairway Bay 1925 | Phalaris Brown 1913 | Polymelus Bromus | 1902 1905 | 3-f 1-i | Scapa Flow Chestnut 1914 | Chaucer Anchora | 1900 1905 | 1-g 13-e | Celestial City Bay 1930 | Solario Bay 1922 | Gainsborough Sun Worship | 1915 1912 | 2-n 26> | Pilgrim's Progress Bay 1921 | Charles O'Malley Va Via | 1907 1913 | 5-h 1-g |
| Ancestor duplications: | Chaucer | 5m x 5f | | Phalaris | 3f x 4m | | Orby | 5f x 5m |
All three inbreeding in the first 5 generation m x f or f x mfrom the 1-g family of Star Kingdom and Chaucer who Delville Wood decends from in the tail male sireline
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Posted By: Carioca
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2017 at 4:34pm
Thank you furious, Prince Delville was a favourite in my school days, Roman Holiday was used as a track work mate and stablemate of Rising Fast, from all accounts a genuine horse with limited ability but a perfect foil for his better known stablemate at track work.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 23 Apr 2017 at 10:39pm
http://inglis.com.au/sales/info/2017+Melbourne+Vobis+Gold+Yearling+Sale/catalogue/17" rel="nofollow - http://inglis.com.au/sales/info/2017+Melbourne+Vobis+Gold+Yearling+Sale/catalogue/17
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Posted By: VSP.
Date Posted: 20 May 2018 at 1:58pm
Found an old photo of some interest!One of our first mares - the beautiful LOVE SONG, and her filly later named Lover's Chariot. Love Song holds a special place in history as her great grand daughter Helsinge produced the super star Black Caviar. So Love Song is the 4th dam of Black Caviar. Lover's Chariot, aka Zippy, holds a very special place in our hearts. We owned her on 4 separate occasions throughout her life, including the end of her life. She is buried on my friends farm. Zippy is the grand mother of the last Caulfield Cup winner Boom Time. https://postimg.cc/image/q0tormaxz/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Mumtaz
Date Posted: 20 May 2018 at 2:05pm
Thanks
That's a lovely photo and a great bit of TB history.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 May 2018 at 2:10pm
WOW Thanks VSP, Some magnificent history there and clearly wonderful memories for yourselves.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jun 2018 at 2:37pm
FELINO BEL (AUS) | Bay filly 2014 | |
Bel Esprit Bay 1999 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Flaming Page Bay 1959 | Bull Page Flaring Top | 1947 1947 | 4-m 8-f | Crimson Saint Chestnut 1969 | Crimson Satan Chestnut 1959 | Spy Song Papila | 1943 1943 | 2-o 26> | Bolero Rose Chestnut 1958 | Bolero First Rose | 1946 1946 | 6-a 8-c | Bespoken Brown 1990 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Chestnut 1952 | Court Martial Sans Tares | 1942 1939 | 1-p 13-c | Elated Bay 1957 | Orgoglio Rarcamba | 1949 1946 | 23-a A10 | Vin d'Amour Bay 1981 | Adios Bay 1970 | Silly Season Angello | 1962 1962 | 1-g 6-f | Gliteren Chestnut 1969 | Final Orders Sunny Gold | 1963 1957 | 2-c 34> | Purringa Grey 2009 | Purrealist Chestnut 2004 | Tale of the Cat Bay or brown 1994 | Storm Cat Bay or brown 1983 | Storm Bird Terlingua | 1978 1976 | 4-j 8-c | Yarn Bay or brown 1987 | Mr Prospector Narrate | 1970 1980 | 13-c 2-f | Surrealist Grey 1996 | Kenny's Best Pal Chestnut 1989 | Bletchingly Eau d'Etoile | 1970 1982 | 7-a 2-c | Sunset Beach Grey 1991 | Kenmare Hula Gold | 1975 1975 | 1-m 1-s | Bergman Grey 2002 | Anabaa Bay 1992 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Balbonella Brown 1984 | Gay Mecene Bamieres | 1975 1978 | 3-l 1-n | Midnight Sun Grey 1995 | Western Symphony Bay 1981 | Nijinsky Millicent | 1967 1969 | 8-f 22-d | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 4m x 5m | | Nijinsky | 3m x 5m | | Vain | 3f x 5f |
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Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 1:44pm
Soothing was very good yesterday and looks to have rather a bright future ahead. Lonhro x Dreamy.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2018 at 2:12pm
SOOTHING (AUS) | Brown filly 2014 | |
Lonhro Brown 1998 | Octagonal Brown 1992 | Zabeel Bay 1986 | Sir Tristram Bay 1971 | Sir Ivor Isolt | 1965 1961 | 8-g 6-e | Lady Giselle Bay 1982 | Nureyev Valderna | 1977 1972 | 5-h 16-c | Eight Carat Brown 1975 | Pieces of Eight Brown 1963 | Relic Baby Doll | 1945 1956 | 8-f 3-o | Klairessa Bay or brown 1969 | Klairon Courtessa | 1952 1955 | 1-w 9-c | Shadea Bay 1988 | Straight Strike Bay or brown 1977 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Bend Not Bay 1972 | Never Bend Jennie Sue | 1960 1961 | 19-b 11> | Concia Bay 1978 | First Consul Bay 1970 | Forli Bold Consort | 1963 1960 | 3-b 5-f | My Tricia Brown 1974 | Hermes Gay Poss | 1963 1966 | 11-d 8> | Dreamy Bay or brown 2005 | Bel Esprit Bay 1999 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Crimson Saint Chestnut 1969 | Crimson Satan Bolero Rose | 1959 1958 | 26> 8-c | Bespoken Brown 1990 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Vin d'Amour Bay 1981 | Adios Gliteren | 1970 1969 | 6-f 34> | Song of the Sun Grey 2000 | Desert Sun Bay 1988 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Foreign Courier | 1977 1979 | 7-a A4 | Solar Chestnut 1973 | Hotfoot L'Anguissola | 1966 1967 | 1-w 10-b | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Folk Song | 1969 1968 | 21-a 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Vain | x 4f,4f |
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Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2018 at 6:37pm
Another gutsy win for Soothing. Black type looms.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2018 at 2:33pm
The Fugitive, Impressive 2yo winner in New Zealand this AM.
THE FUGITIVE (NZ) | Chestnut colt 2016 | |
Wanted Bay 2006 | Fastnet Rock Bay 2001 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Piccadilly Circus Bay 1995 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Crimson Saint | 1967 1969 | 8-f 8-c | Gatana Bay 1989 | Marauding Twigalae | 1984 1979 | 4-i 2-f | Fragmentation Bay 2000 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Great Occasion | 1962 1965 | 1-g 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Scampering | 1968 1970 | 19-b 20-a | Southern Sprinter Bay 1990 | Southern Appeal Bay 1983 | Valid Appeal Southern Gem | 1972 1973 | 2-c 26> | Ceres Mist Grey 1982 | Plush Racice | 1971 1968 | 22-b 7-d | Diva Von Tessa Chestnut 2008 | Testa Rossa Bay 1996 | Perugino Bay or brown 1991 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Fairy Bridge Bay 1975 | Bold Reason Special | 1968 1969 | 19-b 5-h | Bo Dapper Bay 1985 | Sir Dapper Bay 1980 | Vain Sikri | 1966 1967 | A10 C25 | Bodega Bay 1973 | Without Fear Salon | 1967 1964 | 4-c 1-w | Baltics Bay or brown 2003 | Fusaichi Pegasus Bay 1997 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Angel Fever Bay 1990 | Danzig Rowdy Angel | 1977 1979 | 7-a 8-c | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Danzig | 4m x 4m,5f | | Snippets | 3f x 4f | | Vain | x 5m,5f |
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 26 Dec 2018 at 1:16pm
Viking Warrior wins on debut at Geelong today.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 10:31am
VIKING WARRIOR (AUS) | Bay colt 2016 | |
Fastnet Rock Bay 2001 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Pas de Nom Bay or brown 1968 | Admiral's Voyage Petitioner | 1959 1952 | 4-n 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Bay 1968 | Ribot Flower Bowl | 1952 1952 | 4-l 4-d | Spring Adieu Bay 1974 | Buckpasser Natalma | 1963 1957 | 1-s 2-d | Piccadilly Circus Bay 1995 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Crimson Saint Chestnut 1969 | Crimson Satan Bolero Rose | 1959 1958 | 26> 8-c | Gatana Bay 1989 | Marauding Bay 1984 | Sir Tristram Biscalowe | 1971 1979 | 6-e 4-i | Twigalae Bay 1979 | Twig Moss Hondalae | 1973 1968 | 1-k 2-f | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Bay 1962 | Tom Fool Double Deal | 1949 1946 | 3-j 1-g | Great Occasion Chestnut 1965 | Hornbeam Golden Wedding | 1953 1959 | 1-p 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Bay 1968 | Northern Dancer Lachine | 1961 1960 | 2-d 19-b | Scampering Bay 1970 | Misty Day Scamper Away | 1958 1966 | 5-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Chestnut 1952 | Court Martial Sans Tares | 1942 1939 | 1-p 13-c | Elated Bay 1957 | Orgoglio Rarcamba | 1949 1946 | 23-a A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Grey 1969 | Sovereign Path Ardneasken | 1956 1964 | 4-l 21-a | Folk Song Bay 1968 | Tudor Melody Lynsted | 1956 1960 | 1-n 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 4m,5m x 5m | | Natalma | 5m,5f x |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 10:32am
The Fugutive goes around in about 15 minutes.
The family could well have the two best 2yo colts in each country seen so far,
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 10:52am
POP
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2019 at 2:03pm
I've been asked by a friend to suggest some bargain basement stallions for a mare with Song Of Norway as her 3rd dam, so immediately targeted a duplication of that line. Well, what a disappointment; every male bar a couple have been gelded leaving me with Moshe only, Magnus being way out of range (breed to race). Are there any in Vic. that I'm unaware of?
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Posted By: arthur
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2019 at 7:46pm
We have done the moshe Cross in a different way. Found a mare who third dam was full sister to vain so went to moshe for that regard.
I think one of haysey for Rob Crabtree May have gone to stud
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2019 at 8:19pm
Thanks Arthur, I'm sure you'd've given it if you had a name I'll do a bit of digging
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2019 at 8:25pm
Typhon has been getting winners in SA. Not listed as deceased but hasn't served mares in recent years.
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 01 Mar 2019 at 9:14pm
Yes, I saw there was no advertised stud fee so looked no further. He's done quite well too from, I would imagine, mares of limited quality.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2019 at 2:58pm
SPILIA (AUS) | Brown gelding 2015 | |
Pierro Bay 2009 | Lonhro Brown 1998 | Octagonal Brown 1992 | Zabeel Bay 1986 | Sir Tristram Lady Giselle | 1971 1982 | 6-e 16-c | Eight Carat Brown 1975 | Pieces of Eight Klairessa | 1963 1969 | 3-o 9-c | Shadea Bay 1988 | Straight Strike Bay or brown 1977 | Mr Prospector Bend Not | 1970 1972 | 13-c 11> | Concia Bay 1978 | First Consul My Tricia | 1970 1974 | 5-f 8> | Miss Right Note Grey 2003 | Daylami Grey 1994 | Doyoun Bay 1985 | Mill Reef Dumka | 1968 1971 | 22-d 21-a | Daltawa Grey 1989 | Miswaki Damana | 1978 1981 | 16-g 9-e | Sky Song Bay 1997 | Sadler's Wells Bay 1981 | Northern Dancer Fairy Bridge | 1961 1975 | 2-d 5-h | Criquette Bay 1990 | Shirley Heights Ghislaine | 1975 1981 | 1-l 1-t | Belle Couture Bay 2010 | Redoute's Choice Bay 1996 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Shantha's Choice Bay 1992 | Canny Lad Brown 1987 | Bletchingly Jesmond Lass | 1970 1975 | 7-a 14> | Dancing Show Bay 1983 | Nijinsky Show Lady | 1967 1976 | 8-f 8-f | Helsinge Bay 2001 | Desert Sun Bay 1988 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Foreign Courier | 1977 1979 | 7-a A4 | Solar Chestnut 1973 | Hotfoot L'Anguissola | 1966 1967 | 1-w 10-b | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 5m x 5m | | Danzig | x 4m,5m |
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2019 at 3:09pm
| SPILIA 3yo Brown Gelding D.O.B: 24-Aug-2015 by PIERRO from BELLE COUTURE https://www.racingaustralia.horse/FreeServices/PedigreeSearch.aspx?horseName=Spilia&sireName=Pierro&damName=Belle+Couture" rel="nofollow - Status | Active |
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Owner’s Details | Mr P B Devitt |
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Stewards Embargoes | None on record |
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Last Gear Change* | 30-Apr-2018, Blinkers, On, Comment: Declared - trialled in blinkers. |
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Trainer | https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MjI2MTUyNzI%3d&trainername=Mr+Danny+OBrien" rel="nofollow - Racing Colours | Royal Blue, Pink Diagonal Stripes And Striped Sleeves, Pink And Royal Blue Seams Cap |
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Career | Summary: 9-0:3:1 Prizemoney: $21,600 1st Up: 3:0-0-0 2nd Up: 2:0-1-0 Firm: 0:0-0-0 Good: 3:0-0-1 Soft: 4:0-2-0 Heavy: 1:0-0-0 Synthetic: 1:0-1-0 |
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https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseFullForm.aspx?HorseCode=OTgzMzY1Njk5Mg%3d%3d&src=horsesearch" rel="nofollow - https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseAllForm.aspx?HorseCode=OTgzMzY1Njk5Mg%3d%3d&src=horsesearch" rel="nofollow - https://www.racingaustralia.horse/FreeServices/HorseSearch_Embargoes.aspx?HorseCode=OTgzMzY1Njk5Mg%3d%3d&src=horsesearch" rel="nofollow - https://www.racingaustralia.horse/FreeServices/HorseSearch_GearChanges.aspx?HorseCode=OTgzMzY1Njk5Mg%3d%3d&src=horsesearch" rel="nofollow - https://www.racingaustralia.horse/FreeServices/HorseSearch_Ratings_Flats.aspx?HorseCode=OTgzMzY1Njk5Mg%3d%3d&src=horsesearch" rel="nofollow - https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/HorseEngagement.aspx?HorseCode=OTgzMzY1Njk5Mg%3d%3d&src=horsesearch" rel="nofollow - |
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3rd of 7 | https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/Meeting.aspx?meetcode=MTAwNzE2ODI2MzI%3d#Race1" rel="nofollow - 6th of 10 | https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/Meeting.aspx?meetcode=MTAwNzIyNTU3NDA%3d#Race2" rel="nofollow - 2nd of 11 | https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/Meeting.aspx?meetcode=MTAwNzIyODcwMzY%3d#Race4" rel="nofollow - 2nd of 11 | https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/Meeting.aspx?meetcode=MTAwNzIzMzM5ODA%3d#Race3" rel="nofollow - 2nd of 9 | https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/Meeting.aspx?meetcode=MTAwNzIzNjMzMjA%3d#Race4" rel="nofollow -
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 12 Jun 2019 at 3:12pm
I have been following these, Belle Couture also has a 2yr old colt by I am Invincible. | HEART BREAKER 2yo Bay Colt D.O.B: 18-Aug-2016 by I AM INVINCIBLE from BELLE COUTURE https://www.racingaustralia.horse/FreeServices/PedigreeSearch.aspx?horseName=Heart+Breaker&sireName=I+Am+Invincible&damName=Belle+Couture" rel="nofollow - Status | Spelling |
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Owner’s Details | Love Racing, Mr R Habla, Mr P B Wilson, Mr S G McCrea, Mr J Sanders, Mr W Wishart |
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Stewards Embargoes | None on record |
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Last Gear Change* | 11-Mar-2019, Cross-over Nose Band, On |
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Trainer | https://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MTA1OTk5OTQzMg%3d%3d&trainername=Peter+%26+Paul+Snowden" rel="nofollow - Racing Colours | Red, White Hearts, Hearts On Sleeves And Cap |
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Career | Summary: 1-0:0:1 Prizemoney: $5,000 1st Up: 1:0-0-1 2nd Up: 0:0-0-0 Firm: 0:0-0-0 Good: 1:0-0-1 Soft: 0:0-0-0 Heavy: 0:0-0-0 Synthetic: 0:0-0-0 |
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Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2019 at 9:50pm
lulu wrote:
Another gutsy win for Soothing. Black type looms. |
Finally a black type win today in a last to first effort at Morphettville. Very nice run in what was a much easier field than her recent 2nd to Mizzy in the Gr3 Toy Show.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 16 Nov 2019 at 12:43pm
Impressive winner of the first at Sandown.
HANSEATIC (AUS) | Chestnut colt 2017 | |
Street Boss Chestnut 2004 | Street Cry Bay or brown 1998 | Machiavellian Bay or brown 1987 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Coup de Folie Bay 1982 | Halo Raise the Standard | 1969 1978 | 2-d 2-d | Helen Street Bay 1982 | Troy Bay 1976 | Petingo La Milo | 1965 1963 | 22> 1-b | Waterway Chestnut 1976 | Riverman Boulevard | 1969 1968 | 10-a 1-l | Blushing Ogygian Chestnut 1994 | Ogygian Bay 1983 | Damascus Bay 1964 | Sword Dancer Kerala | 1956 1958 | 1-o 8-h | Gonfalon Chestnut 1975 | Francis S Grand Splendor | 1957 1962 | 1-s 16-a | Fruhlingshochzeit Bay or brown 1984 | Blushing Groom Chestnut 1974 | Red God Runaway Bride | 1954 1962 | 8-c 22-d | Fruhlingstag Bay 1975 | Orsini Revada | 1954 1966 | 14-f 1-e | Itameri Chestnut 2010 | Exceed and Excel Bay 2000 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Patrona Chestnut 1994 | Lomond Bay 1980 | Northern Dancer My Charmer | 1961 1969 | 2-d 13-c | Gladiolus Chestnut 1974 | Watch Your Step Back Britches | 1956 1964 | 6-a 23-b | Baltics Bay or brown 2003 | Fusaichi Pegasus Bay 1997 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Angel Fever Bay 1990 | Danzig Rowdy Angel | 1977 1979 | 7-a 8-c | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Mr Prospector | 4m x 4m | | Northern Dancer | x 5m,5m | | Danzig | x 4m,5f |
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2020 at 5:09pm
Capitalist x Belle Couture colt - $260k to Ciaron Maher
Cable Bay x Brigite colt - $210k to Danny O'Brien
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2020 at 10:56pm
Hanseatic might deserve his own thread.
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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 11 Jan 2020 at 11:58pm
Well mate, if it passes your usual rigorous vetting process...
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Posted By: Grey Affair
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2020 at 1:45pm
Ole Kirk just won the LR Talindert Stakes on debut at Flemington. He is by Written Tycoon x Naturale, by Be Esprit x Helsinge.
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2020 at 9:40pm
Mum a full sis to Nellie then. He won well I thought. Then we had Alligator Blood win, by All Too Hard, also Nellie,s rellie. The family are going OK .
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Posted By: Glencoe
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2020 at 10:36pm
O K was an absolutely outstanding type at the on farm yearling parades. He would have sold well irrespective of pedigree.
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2020 at 10:56am
Who bred O K Glencoe ? What salle did he go thru ?
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2020 at 11:18am
Offered by Gilgai Farm at Melbourne Premier and sold for $675k.
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2020 at 9:33pm
Bargain
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 2:15pm
djebel wrote:
SCARLET MAGNOLIA (AUS) | Chestnut filly 2012 | |
Magnus Bay 2002 | Flying Spur Bay 1992 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Rolls Chestnut 1984 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Grand Luxe Chestnut 1974 | Sir Ivor Fanfreluche | 1965 1967 | 8-g 4-g | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Chestnut 1970 | Silly Season Great Occasion | 1962 1965 | 1-g 7-f | Easy Date Bay 1977 | Grand Chaudiere Scampering | 1968 1970 | 19-b 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Folk Song | 1969 1968 | 21-a 1-p | Scarletta Chestnut 2006 | Distant Music Bay 1997 | Distant View Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Bay 1970 | Raise a Native Gold Digger | 1961 1962 | 8-f 13-c | Seven Springs Chestnut 1982 | Irish River La Trinite | 1976 1976 | 1-w 16-a | Musicanti Bay 1991 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Populi Bay or brown 1975 | Star Envoy Sister Shannon | 1968 1965 | 8-f 4-f | Danavia Bay 2000 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Bay 1977 | Northern Dancer Pas de Nom | 1961 1968 | 2-d 7-a | Razyana Bay 1981 | His Majesty Spring Adieu | 1968 1974 | 4-d 2-d | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Northern Dancer | 5m x 5m,5m | | Danehill | 3m x 3f | | Mr Prospector | 4f x 4m | | | | Scandinavia | 2m x 3f |
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Not sure I have mentioned this previously but just going through the Studbook right now and I see the above mare MISSED to Moshe.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 2:17pm
The 2016 mating -
What a shame she missed.
Moshe (AUS) Bay or brown 2007 | Bel Esprit Bay 1999 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Crimson Saint Chestnut 1969 | Crimson Satan Bolero Rose | 1959 1958 | 26> 8-c | Bespoken Brown 1990 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Vin d'Amour Bay 1981 | Adios Gliteren | 1970 1969 | 6-f 34> | Helsinge Bay 2001 | Desert Sun Bay 1988 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Foreign Courier | 1977 1979 | 7-a A4 | Solar Chestnut 1973 | Hotfoot L'Anguissola | 1966 1967 | 1-w 10-b | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p | Scarlet Magnolia (AUS) Chestnut 2012 | Magnus Bay 2002 | Flying Spur Bay 1992 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Razyana | 1977 1981 | 7-a 2-d | Rolls Chestnut 1984 | Mr Prospector Grand Luxe | 1970 1974 | 13-c 4-g | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p | Scarletta Chestnut 2006 | Distant Music Bay 1997 | Distant View Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Seven Springs | 1970 1982 | 13-c 16-a | Musicanti Bay 1991 | Nijinsky Populi | 1967 1975 | 8-f 4-f | Danavia Bay 2000 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Razyana | 1977 1981 | 7-a 2-d | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Song of Norway | 1984 1982 | 20-a 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Nijinsky | 4m x 5f | | Vain | 4f,5f x 5f | | Danzig | 5m x 5m,5m | | | | Scandinavia | 3f x 3m,4f | | Danehill | x 4m,4f | | Mr Prospector | x 5f,5m |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 2:37pm
Morning Mood (AUS) 2014 | | | | Life Number: AUS01094556 | bay mare | Date of Birth: 08/10/2014 |
| Microchip Number: 985100012055818 | | DNA Typed: Y |
| | by Bel Esprit (AUS) 1999 | Contact: Mrs AL Saville, Vic |
| | bred by Mrs AL Saville, Mrs P Hawkes, Vic | |
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| Australian Breeding Record | https://www.studbook.org.au/HorseMareProducePdf.aspx?mid=1094556" rel="nofollow"> | https://www.studbook.org.au/HorseMareProducePdf.aspx?mid=1094556" rel="nofollow - Printable Version |
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| Season | DOB | Colour | Sex | Name or Last Service Date | Sire | Comment | 2020 | | | | 18/10/2019 | https://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=829922" rel="nofollow - Magnus (AUS) | Pending Certification of Paternity https://www.studbook.org.au/horse.aspx?hid=1094556&pagetype=MAREBRDG#" rel="nofollow">certification of paternity being submitted by the Stallion Proprietor"> | 2019 | | | | 11/11/2018 | https://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=982857" rel="nofollow - All Too Hard (AUS) | no mare return | 2018 | | | | 17/12/2017 | https://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=982857" rel="nofollow - All Too Hard (AUS) | missed |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 2:37pm
MORNING MOOD (AUS) | Bay filly 2014 | |
Bel Esprit Bay 1999 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Bay 1961 | Nearctic Natalma | 1954 1957 | 14-c 2-d | Flaming Page Bay 1959 | Bull Page Flaring Top | 1947 1947 | 4-m 8-f | Crimson Saint Chestnut 1969 | Crimson Satan Chestnut 1959 | Spy Song Papila | 1943 1943 | 2-o 26> | Bolero Rose Chestnut 1958 | Bolero First Rose | 1946 1946 | 6-a 8-c | Bespoken Brown 1990 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Chestnut 1952 | Court Martial Sans Tares | 1942 1939 | 1-p 13-c | Elated Bay 1957 | Orgoglio Rarcamba | 1949 1946 | 23-a A10 | Vin d'Amour Bay 1981 | Adios Bay 1970 | Silly Season Angello | 1962 1962 | 1-g 6-f | Gliteren Chestnut 1969 | Final Orders Sunny Gold | 1963 1957 | 2-c 34> | Fargo Bay 1999 | Keltrice Bay 1990 | Kenmare Grey 1975 | Kalamoun Grey 1970 | Zeddaan Khairunissa | 1965 1960 | 11-g 9-c | Belle of Ireland Chestnut 1964 | Milesian Belle of the Ball | 1953 1958 | 22-a 1-m | Vain Display Chestnut 1981 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Toltrice Bay 1969 | Matrice Tolaldo | 1951 1960 | 7-d 43> | Glacial Lass Bay 1993 | Canny Lad Brown 1987 | Bletchingly Brown 1970 | Biscay Coogee | 1965 1959 | 2-o 7-a | Jesmond Lass Chestnut 1975 | Lunchtime Beautiful Dreamer | 1970 1967 | 7-f 14> | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Love Song Grey 1976 | Warpath Folk Song | 1969 1968 | 21-a 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Vain | 3f x 4f,4f |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 2:45pm
Miss Scandilous (AUS) 2012 | | | | Life Number: AUS01058371 | bay or brown mare | Date of Birth: 02/11/2012 |
| Microchip Number: 985100012022304 | | DNA Typed: Y |
| | | from Midnight Blues (AUS) 2004 | | |
| bred by Mr RJ Crabtree, Vic | |
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| Australian Breeding Record | https://www.studbook.org.au/HorseMareProducePdf.aspx?mid=1058371" rel="nofollow"> | https://www.studbook.org.au/HorseMareProducePdf.aspx?mid=1058371" rel="nofollow - Printable Version |
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| Season | DOB | Colour | Sex | Name or Last Service Date | Sire | Comment | 2019 | | | | 05/12/2018 | https://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=946958" rel="nofollow - Moshe (AUS) | Pending Certification of Paternity |
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Moshe (AUS) Bay or brown 2007 | Bel Esprit Bay 1999 | Royal Academy Bay 1987 | Nijinsky Bay 1967 | Northern Dancer Flaming Page | 1961 1959 | 2-d 8-f | Crimson Saint Chestnut 1969 | Crimson Satan Bolero Rose | 1959 1958 | 26> 8-c | Bespoken Brown 1990 | Vain Chestnut 1966 | Wilkes Elated | 1952 1957 | 13-c A10 | Vin d'Amour Bay 1981 | Adios Gliteren | 1970 1969 | 6-f 34> | Helsinge Bay 2001 | Desert Sun Bay 1988 | Green Desert Bay 1983 | Danzig Foreign Courier | 1977 1979 | 7-a A4 | Solar Chestnut 1973 | Hotfoot L'Anguissola | 1966 1967 | 1-w 10-b | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p | Miss Scandilous (AUS) Bay or brown 2012 | Magnus Bay 2002 | Flying Spur Bay 1992 | Danehill Bay 1986 | Danzig Razyana | 1977 1981 | 7-a 2-d | Rolls Chestnut 1984 | Mr Prospector Grand Luxe | 1970 1974 | 13-c 4-g | Scandinavia Chestnut 1994 | Snippets Bay 1984 | Lunchtime Easy Date | 1970 1977 | 7-f 20-a | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p | Midnight Blues Brown 2004 | Distant Music Bay 1997 | Distant View Chestnut 1991 | Mr Prospector Seven Springs | 1970 1982 | 13-c 16-a | Musicanti Bay 1991 | Nijinsky Populi | 1967 1975 | 8-f 4-f | Midnight Sun Grey 1995 | Western Symphony Bay 1981 | Nijinsky Millicent | 1967 1969 | 8-f 22-d | Song of Norway Grey 1982 | Vain Love Song | 1966 1976 | A10 1-p |
| Ancestor duplications: | Nijinsky | 4m x 5f,5m | | Vain | 4f,5f x 5f,5f | | Danzig | 5m x 5m | | | | Scandinavia | 3f x 3m | | Song of Norway | 4f x 4f,4f | | Mr Prospector | x 5f,5m |
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 2:58pm
The stallions and stallion prospects from the family
All Too Hard Lionhearted Moshe Magnus Typhon
Hanseatic Heart Breaker Ole Kirk
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 17 Feb 2020 at 3:01pm
It's possible to over-egg the cake.
Four foals by Magnus from Midnight Blues and none of them much good at all.
Mind you Robert Crabtree is the major shareholder in Magnus and owns Midnight Blues outright so can please himself.
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Posted By: Grey Affair
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2020 at 6:25pm
Grey Affair wrote:
Ole Kirk just won the LR Talindert Stakes on debut at Flemington. He is by Written Tycoon x Naturale, by Be Esprit x Helsinge.
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.... and now has the Gp1 Golden Rose in his resume!
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2020 at 6:40pm
Terrific result, and an early pick-up by you.
Helsinge family as you identify, with a triple of Vain. What do you know, Black Caviar from the same family with just a double of Vain. In both cases with Danehill nowhere in sight.
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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2020 at 6:52pm
Loved the triple Vain. I'm sure you did also SC>
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2020 at 7:22pm
djebel wrote:
The stallions and stallion prospects from the family
All Too Hard Lionhearted Moshe exported to Thailand
Magnus Typhon Prince of Caviar at Benalla @$4400 See the Stallions in Vic pinned thread.
Hanseatic Heart Breaker Ole Kirk
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Posted By: Mayor
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2020 at 12:09pm
Value skyrocketed now he's a Caulfield Guineas winner, the stallion maker race. So dominant as well. Ole Ole Ole
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Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 11 Oct 2020 at 10:04pm
Djebel, If you wouldnt mind could you put up a pedigree of OLE KIRK over SCANDIMANIA? I think i just want to see the six x VAIN
Cheers in advance.
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