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Topic: Echuca horse sales
Posted By: adolphus twirk
Subject: Echuca horse sales
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 8:08pm
Anyone know how I can get their monthly list of horses?



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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 8:38pm
Facebook:  www.facebook.com/pages/Echuca-Horse-Sales/157582900972357
                  www.facebook.com/echucahorsesale
Try those 2 & the only reputable group who'll bid for you are:
www.facebook.com/HorseAtAuction?ref=br_tf          Friends can't speak more highly of them.
Poor Little Critter was 'saved' by a friend last sales, definitely from the knackery as he was a real mess in terms of soundness & a rig tho very quiet Smile


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Posted By: WhiteRidge
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2014 at 10:07pm
Yes, you will have to go through Horses at Auction - bidding group Gay linked too. They usually have the photos still up of previous sales, but they are not always id'd. I try to id most of the tbs that i see the photos of, but some do get missed.


Posted By: adolphus twirk
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2014 at 2:41am
Thanks


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 01 Oct 2014 at 8:26pm
A lovely endorsement on FB Smile

https://www.facebook.com/vickie.broughton.1?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Vickie Broughton https://www.facebook.com/groups/458404900883326/?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - P.H.A.R.L.A.P Ponies.Horses.Animals.Rescue.Love.And.Protection
https://www.facebook.com/groups/458404900883326/permalink/770214126369067/" rel="nofollow - - 13 mins ·

I want to Firstly congratulate the team at HAAP, Today they bid and won on 30 horses for other people!! This Team led by https://www.facebook.com/belinda.goyarts" rel="nofollow - Belinda PugRescue Goyarts are AMAZING! They are professional and cover all bases for their clients, They travel a long way each Weds sale eve, photograph and put up details of the horses, provide assessment of horses by an experienced horseman, spend all day answering clients questions, bid for their clients and then feed and care for the purchased horses after sale!! Some of these horses were headed for the doggers truck and if HAAP didn't do what they do each sale their would be so many more heading that way THANKYOU HAAP from everyone that has a 'horsy' bone in their body, you girls rock!!!!!! https://www.facebook.com/kerrie.dean.77" rel="nofollow - Kerrie Dean , https://www.facebook.com/nik.crumpton" rel="nofollow - Nik Crumpton , https://www.facebook.com/heather.johns.545" rel="nofollow - Heather Johns and sorry I dont know the other girls names. Love Love Love you guys




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Posted By: Farmermick
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 1:01am
Yes, that is fantastic. Not many get the accolades deserving for those who rehome the thoroughbreds that crappy owners send to the knackery etc. Should be a fine for the owners and awards for the like as mentioned above.

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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2014 at 1:27am
its nice to know some horses go to good homes.
many kudos to those who rescue these horses.
but they should not have to.


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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2014 at 9:14am
This is the sort of instance that does the industry no credit Disapprove
https://www.facebook.com/archie.renaldo?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Amanda Nouveau https://www.facebook.com/groups/126789700834735/?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Kristen Manning Pedigrees & Thoroughbred Media Services
https://www.facebook.com/groups/126789700834735/permalink/368981206615582/" rel="nofollow - - 10 hrs ·

Call to arms!!! There is a mare going through the sales tomorrow, who is definitely a good brood propect. She is by High chapparal! Anyone who can help save her?

https://www.facebook.com/#" rel="nofollow - Like https://www.facebook.com/#" rel="nofollow - "}" data-reactid=".1i.1 - Like · · https://www.facebook.com/ajax/sharer/?s=37&appid=2309869772&p%5B0%5D=368981206615582&share_source_type=unknown" rel="nofollow - Share

Every week there are similar going thru' with ppl rallying to save them either from Echuca or Pakenham but there'll come a time when ideal homes reach saturation point. What can be done? I've absolutely no idea Confused




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Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2014 at 9:28am
Guys - anybody know the website for this auction? I am keen to have a look.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2014 at 10:33am

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whitto, there's no website that I know of, only the FB groups helping out & they're pretty organised now. Amanda Nouveau is a member here & a rescue. The sale is today.This is one reputable group, they're closed but you could message https://www.facebook.com/groups/458404900883326/
www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100008145256184&fref=nf&pnref=story Amanda would be your best bet Wink or Kristen
https://www.facebook.com/archie.renaldo?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Amanda Nouveau https://www.facebook.com/groups/126789700834735/?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Kristen Manning Pedigrees & Thoroughbred Media Services
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Call to arms!!! There is a mare going through the sales tomorrow, who is definitely a good brood propect. She is by High chapparal! Anyone who can help save her?

Amanda Nouveau is 1 alias of convicted multiple scammer/horse abuser Amanda Yelland also found here as Tierce Surprise (at least Confused)




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Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2014 at 11:01am
I am interested in Sun Lass - will contact Kristen


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2014 at 3:25pm
Another example of what's going thru', this guy sold to Q'land, sight unseen Smile

This colt is at the sale yards today at echuca and yes all colts stallions usually go on the one way journey.
He is by Artie Schiller out of Submit/ Encosta De Lago, named Imperial King lovely 2 yr old colt apparently there for unpaid agistment so great bargain, should go for around the $270 Mark . Let me know as I can organise bidding etc

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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2015 at 7:29pm
 

Stephenson secures bright future for mares

  • James Tzaferis
  • http://rv.racing.com/news/2015-02-03/stephenson-secures-bright-future-for-mares

One of the mares purchased by Stephenson

The loud whinnies of confused horses ring out across the capacious Echuca Horse Sale complex regardless of whose hand is raised to place a bid and determine their future.

But unlike some of her bidding rivals who clamour around iron pens to gaze upon the 120 or so horses of varying breeds on offer in the sale, Kylie Stephenson is purchasing horses to return to the industry from which they came.

A small-time Victorian breeder who manages a band of six broodmares at Cora-Lynn Farm, Stephenson is part of a growing legion of passionate thoroughbred enthusiasts attending the Echuca Horse Sale every fortnight with the intention of cataloguing and re-homing as many thoroughbreds as possible.

Together with members from Racing Victoria’s (RV) Equine Welfare Department and Horses at Auction – a volunteer group that places bids on behalf of those unable to attend the sale in person – every effort is made to ensure a safe future for the retired thoroughbred racehorses that land in a pen at Echuca.

Stephenson is particularly interested in the older mares that find their way to Echuca, believing that many of them can be utilised in the Victorian breeding industry.

“A group of us have been working on this for about four months and apart from one person, we’re all small breeders,” Stephenson said.

“Because of our breeding history, we started doing background searches on these mares’ pedigrees and found that many were quite good mares and could have a future back in the industry.”

With the help of social media and the large networking channels of like-minded individuals, Stephenson has been responsible for finding new homes for more than 25 horses offered through the ring at Echuca.

Attending most of the fortnightly sales, Stephenson - sometimes with the help of others - identifies horses via their brands and shares their identity on the popular Kristen Manning Pedigrees and Thoroughbred Media Services Facebook page.

“I can’t take them all but these horses are better off going back into the industry than the alternative,” Stephenson said.

“We’ve been working well with Kristen (Manning) and she’s got over 5000 followers on her Facebook page now so it’s just growing in leaps and bounds.

“In the last few months we’ve rehomed a minimum of 25 mares.”

When she can’t secure them in the ring, Stephenson tracks horses that have been purchased by dealers, often providing a final lifeline for horses when no other buyer emerges.

This was the case with two mares Stephenson has now welcomed into her select band of broodmares at Cora-Lynn Farm – Cape Cross mare Supadiva and former jumper Beach D’Or.

A winner of five races and more than $40,000 from 34 career starts, Supadiva was retired and tried briefly as a mum, producing fillies by Elvstroem and Hold That Tiger.

Connections decided her post-racing talents would be better realised as an equestrian mount and sent the now 13-year-old to what they were told was going to be a loving home. They were mistaken.

Purchased at Echuca for a mere $300 by Laverton Pet Supplies (LPS), Supadiva was moved to the Bendigo property of Rehoming Horses Victoria, an organisation that offers buyers a final window of opportunity to secure a horse purchased by LPS.

“I saw her (Supadiva) come up on the Horses At Auction – Preview Facebook page when she arrived at Echuca but I didn’t actually know who she was on that day,” Stephenson said.

“I was later told by a racing person that she had been bought and was at Laverton (LPS) but luckily we were able to get her out of the yard and sent to Bendigo to be sold on by Rehoming Horses Victoria.

“Supadiva ended up getting fundraised for to be saved and the person that put up nearly all of the money to buy her was actually a racing person who knew her as a racehorse.

“The rescue group that was going to take her went to pick her up from Bendigo but she had sustained some injuries and they unfortunately decided not to take her.

“I got a mayday call to say that the horse was still there (Rehoming Horse Victoria) so I bought her home, rehabilitated her and she’s been going great.

“We’ve decided that we’re going to put her back in and breed with her this coming season because we think she’s an absolute cracker.”

It was a similar story for 13-year-old mare Beach D’Or, a successful steeplechaser and winner of more than $100,000 on the track, after her original racing owners gifted her to an individual that had pledged to re-educate the mare for a career in eventing.

“Another mare we’ve got is Beach D’Or and she is a similar story to Supadiva,” Stephenson said.

“Her owners, Mary and Colin Rees, who had the mare in Ballarat, bred with her but had trouble getting her in foal so they did the right thing by looking around for a suitable home for her as an eventer.

“They ended up giving her to people that, unbeknown to them, had intentions of taking her to Echuca Sales three days later to cash her in.”

Raised in a racing family – Stephenson is the niece of the late Bryan Muschialli, a respected bloodstock agent and passionate racehorse owner – the former FEI Dressage rider has been brought up to revere and love the animal, rather than value it as a commodity.

It’s this long association with the thoroughbred industry that sees her take affront to the claims by outsiders – usually animal extremist welfare groups opposed to racing – that owners, trainers and breeders have little regard for horse welfare in an industry in which dollar is king and battlers are out to make a quick buck.

“What we’ve seen is that a lot of the racehorse breeders and owners don’t put these horses here at Echuca – the vast majority of horses ending up at Echuca have been re-homed at least once since finishing their racing careers,” Stephenson said.

“If we can take out 25% of the thoroughbreds that end up at Echuca through dodgy dealing by people outside of the racing industry, it’s easier on the horses, it’s easier on the owners and it’s easier on me.

“Hopefully it will make owners and trainers a little bit more aware of how many suspect people there are outside of the industry.”

As part of its commitment to equine welfare, RV representatives will continue to attend the Echuca Horse Sale each fortnight to identify thoroughbreds for sale and provide courtesy service to alert owners, trainers and breeders to the presence of any former horses. 

Clap Clap Clap  Kylie & others like her deserve any accolades & luck that come their way Thumbs Up


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Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2015 at 9:02pm
Absolutely - legendary stuff by Kylie & the many others working with her.

I have followed all involved closely & the industry should be proud of this initiative.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 6:02pm
What's wrong with these people? Angry  White Knight was trained by Matthew Williams, part owned by Ritchie Callender & lobs at a knackery via Echuca saleyard this week. Could they not have found a home for him? Does Ritchie or any of the owners know? Guess they will shortly as it's all over social media.
I accept they all end up dead but for $300 less transport, possibly from W'nambool was it all too hard to have the horse put down where he was spelling if a decent home couldn't be found?
I accept this may be the result of owners of the 'forever home' being responsible, again, if so, why not check with the trainer if he could be returned or an alternative found Confused
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Posted By: AndiCap
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 6:50pm
I'd swap Kadota for this one Gay



Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 6:55pm
There's a chance he may be saved, albeit at a justifiable inflated price, thru' the efforts of Kylie Stevenson & co. (tribute on another thread) so he may well be available for that swap LOL Wink

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Posted By: Roidz
Date Posted: 19 Feb 2015 at 8:38pm
I think we need to remember that Echuca is an auction house, not a slaughterhouse.

Yes, the gelding's owners could have done more. Yes, he could have been advertised on the various channels available to them and for all we know he could have been and it resulted in nothing. He's been looked after, his rehab had been started and with the exposure Echuca gets online every single week from HAAP, rescue groups etc. it is probably fair to say that they thought someone would take him on. Ex-jumpers, I understand, are popular retraining prospects. However, I also understand that tendon injuries make OTTBs less interesting to show homes (I had a bow tendon boy for awhile who was a stunner but dropped off the radar of every single possible showy home as soon as he did it).

According to one of the whacko groups he was purchased by a reseller who has already sold him on. So all in all, a success for the horse - provided he hasn't been purchased by a faux forever home. 

And honestly, from my impression via gossip, Callendar doesn't seem the type to be too interested in the rehoming thing; it was probably left to the trainer.


Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 5:50am
Callender has no home, he's a goner from TVN.....I'd like to re-home though, but Gay won't let me say where, probably for the best. 


Posted By: AussieOi
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 9:05pm
Actually going by twitter Richie paid the amount needed to save him, so he has a heart after all

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Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 9:26pm
 UPDATE on White Knight- we pick him up tomorrow yay and he will be joining Shailynns Horse Heaven group where he will never end up at the sales again Thank you to all the wonderful people in this group - we all love our Racehorses! Thank you to all people who offered to donate although a massive thank you to Richard Callendar for donating the full amount to get this boy into our care! Wowee thanks Guys - will continue to update on Blackie

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Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 9:38pm
great stuff Crooked


Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 9:50pm
that was just a copy and paste of facebook 

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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 9:53pm
I haven't seen the source but know 'they' didn't want to make it public untill after the horse is picked up tomorrow. Hope all goes to plan.

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Posted By: crooked_gambler
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 9:54pm
whoops haha, the bit i saw was on a public page anyway.

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Posted By: Oritah
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 9:59pm
I cant believe a jumps horse ended up at the sales - they are sort after by the eventing fraternity :( 




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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 10:18pm
Good on Richie.

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Posted By: Roidz
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 10:32pm
Originally posted by Oritah Oritah wrote:

I cant believe a jumps horse ended up at the sales - they are sort after by the eventing fraternity :( 

That tendon injury would have put a lot of people off I suspect. Like I said above, quite a few people immediately dropped off their interest in a gelding I had when he retired purely because his tendon was bung.

Glad Callander came through, as he (and all others in ownership) should.


Posted By: anabel
Date Posted: 20 Feb 2015 at 11:22pm
I know it's a sale, not a knackery, but it wouldn't hurt to put a reserve price on these horses to prevent the doggers buying them. We've rehomed 3 ex racehorses this season and with some slight time and effort we have always found them a good home.


Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2015 at 7:36am
Originally posted by Bonjour Bonjour wrote:

Callender has no home, he's a goner from TVN.....I'd like to re-home though, but Gay won't let me say where, probably for the best. 

He's gone up about 10 notches in my book, I'll re-think my attitude to the big fella, good one Ritchie, I hope your act of kindness and good conscience rubs off on others. Go well!


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2015 at 8:32am
There are so many ppl willing to help that the 'anti' groups are totally unaware of but fortunately, it was an anti jumps group who publicised it & I must add, were very helpful.
Thousands of offers to save him were fielded including one from staff where he was broken in in NZ Thumbs Up
My source is fairly certain the owners were told a perfect home had been found, the week before the sale but many unscrulous types are now operating in Vic whereby they dupe owners into believing they're offering paradise on Earth, only to onsell quickly thru' the yards Angry  This appears to be the case with White Knight & the tough jumping mare Beach D'Or several months ago who also was saved.
The dealer who bought him at Echuca tho' connected to a knackery, only purchases horses to onsell for riding etc. hence the inflated price of $1200 from the initial $450.


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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 05 Aug 2015 at 1:02pm
Great to see the Vic DPI so proactive, strangles cases have been coming thru' Echuca yards for over a month now with 2 sales per fortnight, namely Weds. & Fridays.

This on FB today:

https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson
https://www.facebook.com/zena.0/posts/10205213913327503" rel="nofollow -

Important!!! Anyone who buys horses from Echuca market has to immediately Quarantine all horses as there is a strangles outbreak which has not been dealt with!! Reality is- most horses will go direct to slaughter as the DPI have not closed down the Saleyard and stopped the movement of horses!!!

https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Thoroughbred GateKeeper
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/permalink/1466192767015290/" rel="nofollow -

Important notice!! We have reports of horses who have contracted Strangles from Echuca Saleyards over the last 4 weeks! Any horse who has been through this Saleyard MUST be quarantined away from any horses to stop the spread of this nasty disease!
We at the Gatekeeper believe the sales should be shut down immediately to control and stop the spread of Strangles- although the DPI have not done anything to date! We need to protect the industry- and unfortunately most horses that go thru this sale yard will be processed!
Prices have never been so low - so we believe this is a reflection of this Strangles outbreak!
In conclusion, I am not saying do not buy - just be aware and Quarantine !


https://www.facebook.com/#" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/#" rel="nofollow - https://www.facebook.com/judy.ramsey.18?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Im suprised it hasnt been shut down for a little while. Give the place a good scrub and clean out. Give a chance to those that are destined for that place in the coming weeks not to bring it home with them.
DPI seemed more concerned about lice on sheep. You cop an on the spot fine with that. The attitude about strangles is like 'pffft'



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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 8:59am
An example of what's happening to TBs every fortnight at Echuca & no doubt, elsewhere Ouch

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Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 9:18am
Breaks my heart every time.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2015 at 9:34am
Unfortunately, no matter how fastidiously rehomed after racing, they, like all others in the sales, become victim of owners who no longer want or are able to continue caring for them. I realise death is inevitable but the stress of leaving their home & friends, getting dumped in saleyards, followed by the stench of death shortly prior to their demise, appalls me.

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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 7:08pm

Bargain buy Georgia on my mind

  • 12:00pm
  • |Daniel Miles
Tycoon Georgia

Most of the crowd has dispersed by the time a scrawny daughter of Written Tycoon made her way through the Echuca and District Livestock Exchange sale ring in late 2012.

The sting of the summer sun was slowly creeping across the sky, warming the vast complex’s tin roof as the well-bred filly sauntered, head slung low, through the undercover ring before a group of largely uninterested onlookers.

Little more than skin and bones, the unraced, unnamed two-year-old thoroughbred spent no more than a minute in the ring before being purchased for just $280.

There were only two bidders present at the time. Luckily for the filly, one of them was on behalf of Meagan Abaloz.

Abaloz had fallen in love with the young horse less than 12 hours earlier, having seen a photo of the filly on Facebook.

However, this was no conventional love story.

According to Abaloz, the unnamed youngster looked down for the count. She was thin, her coat was dull and there were more than just a few ribs on display.

But there was also something different about her, something that Abaloz couldn’t help but notice.

“She was just so broken. She had no life in her and her eye – it was just so sad,” Abaloz said.

Inspired rather than deterred, Abaloz committed to purchasing the filly – no matter the cost.

After an anxious fortnight’s wait for the filly to arrive, she was finally united with her purchase and took the young horse straight to a paddock filled with knee-high grass.

The filly was thrilled.

A veterinary inspection revealed a broken nose (the cause of her apparent wind-sucking), some obvious malnourishment and a bit of swelling, but after a brief period of rehabilitation the precocious bay was back bucking her brands off.

Abaloz, foreman to Pakenham trainer Dianne Clover at the time, recognised a desire to work in her filly and as such, entered the young horse to her employer’s care.

Given the name Tycoon Georgia, Abaloz’s filly thrived.

After an inglorious debut at Geelong in July 2013 – “She was so green she zig-zagged the entire straight” Abaloz said – Tycoon Georgia transitioned to the picnic racing scene where she’s been a constant inspiration to her owner.

The horse that no one wanted, that no one gave a second glance or hope, had finally found her feet.

Tycoon Georgia
Tycoon Georgia nuzzles her paddock mate. 

A third placing at Woolamai at her second career start led to a desperately close second three weeks later at the same track.

Abaloz was overcome with a sense of achievement.

“She’s pretty special. She may not be the fastest horse going around on the track but she gives 110 percent every time she goes out there and tries her heart out,” she said.

Abaloz continued to fall for her prized filly and within no time the pair were inseparable.

She even committed to inking Tycoon Georgia’s name across her ankle once she broke her maiden status.

Too excited to wait, and too in love to care, ink hit skin in the midst of her Tycoon Georgia’s second racing prep.

Fortunately for Abaloz, her racing star came through with a win at her sixth start over 1050m at Balnarring.

However Tycoon Georgia is more than just an honest horse.

“She means more to me as a companion than a racehorse,” Abaloz said.

“But she loves racing which is why she does it.

“She’ll never be making me money – we’ve had some fair vet bills in our time – but I couldn’t care less if she never makes me another dollar in her life, as long as she gets around that track sound and comes back to me safe, I’m happy.”

Tycoon Georgia is now trained by Abaloz’s current employer, Paul Kramer, and is tentatively eyeing off start number 11 at Drouin Racecourse on Boxing Day.

Abaloz thinks Tycoon Georgia’s due for her second career win, and she says there’s always room for another photo on the living room wall.

But the racetrack outings aren’t for the wins, the prizemoney or even the bragging rights. They’re for Tycoon Georgia.

“Racing with her isn’t about winning, to me it’s about her being happy and doing what she enjoys doing,” she said.

“This horse means the world to me, she’s absolutely beautiful. When she shows me she’s ready to stop that’ll be it.

“She’s found her forever home here with me.”



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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2015 at 8:25pm
Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Unfortunately, no matter how fastidiously rehomed after racing, they, like all others in the sales, become victim of owners who no longer want or are able to continue caring for them. I realise death is inevitable but the stress of leaving their home & friends, getting dumped in saleyards, followed by the stench of death shortly prior to their demise, appalls me.

yep.   appalls me too.  if you no longer want,  or have use for , the animal,  at least have the decency to give it a kind end. 
how hard is that,, FF$  ????   
oh yeah.  i forgot.  suck that very last dollar out of the animal,  be greedy,  bugga kindness .


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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2016 at 8:31pm
Another lucky soul thanks to social media!

PEN 89 this poor kid has well and truly given up he honestly didn't want a bar of us as you can see from his photos he is in desperate need of a rescue home who has the time to see him back to health he is really a sweet boy
approx 15.3HH

 Langer 5yo by Artie Schiller goes to this lady: https://www.facebook.com/ashlee.potter.3?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Ashlee Potter Rehabilitation to Begin with but in the long run I believe he would make an amazing hack we are very experienced with horses I am a vet nurse an we have 130 acres so he would get what he needs.
https://www.facebook.com/kristen.manning.376?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kristen Manning it was quite the drama too!
https://www.facebook.com/kristen.manning.376?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kristen Manning a long story this one but all's well that ends well. Needless to say his original owner was horrified that he ended up this way

https://www.facebook.com/karin.macnab?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Karin MacNab Big thanks to https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?hc_location=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson
https://www.facebook.com/#" rel="nofollow - "}" class="UFILikeLink - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/permalink/1513589725608927/?comment_id=1513794338921799&comment_tracking=%7Btn%3AR%7D" rel="nofollow - - -
https://www.facebook.com/kristen.manning.376?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow">Kristen Manning
https://www.facebook.com/kristen.manning.376?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kristen Manning quick thinking by Kylie saved the day!

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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 18 Jan 2016 at 1:33pm
https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson  to  https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Thoroughbred GateKeeper
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/permalink/1514541768847056/" rel="nofollow - - - 1 hr ·

Thanks to an unbelievable team effort between many rescue groups, the lovely Flying Spur mare Miss Longueville who has already seen herself go thru Echuca twice in the last month and ended up at Shep (processing plant) is SAFE
She will be entered into the Gatekeeper program and will head to one of the most amazing friends https://www.facebook.com/jane.morgan.58173000" rel="nofollow - Jane Morgan



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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 9:48pm
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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2016 at 9:51pm
In case anyone's interested, this Savabeel mare went thru' Echuca today & was bought by Shepp. meats.
https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson She is av for a short time at shep for 700
  https://www.facebook.com/zena.0/posts/10206176984283675?comment_id=10206178980253573&comment_tracking=%7Btn%3AR4%7D" rel="nofollow - 44 mins


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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2016 at 1:38pm
https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson  to  https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Thoroughbred GateKeeper
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/permalink/1517852271849339/" rel="nofollow - - - 12 hrs ·

SOLD great news

This mare is a good example of why to watch the Thoroughbred Gatekeeper and see what goes thru Echuca sales

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/permalink/1517852271849339/?comment_id=1517993321835234&comment_tracking=%7Btn%3AR0%7D" rel="nofollow - -

https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow">Kylie Stephenson
https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson Thanks for the interest shown in this lovely mare
Would like to congratulate https://www.facebook.com/cathryntkelly?hc_location=ufi" rel="nofollow - Cathryn Kelly And https://www.facebook.com/clubcoach.mornington?hc_location=ufi" rel="nofollow - Adam Warren in purchasing this cracking mare
Purchased by Victorian Breeders


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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 3:58pm
Count Encosta  somehow this poor guy ended up in the sales but thru' social media, has found a super home despite a damaged flexor tendon Clap

https://www.facebook.com/?comment_tracking=%7Btn%3AR4%7D" rel="nofollow - -
https://www.facebook.com/corinna.slade?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow">Corinna Slade
https://www.facebook.com/corinna.slade?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Corinna Slade From Brooke; We will get him home. See how bad his tendon injury is. His first track rider Amiee is an excellent eventer and has history with managing tendon injuries in retired race horses. No doubt he will be loved till the end of his days with the people who started his racing career. He may even make it to the show ring. Fingers crossed for Count Encosta's bright future.


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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 6:08pm
Another one from the Archards


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 6:09pm
Oh no Angry does he have any morals towards animals?

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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 6:11pm
Nearly all his horses end up at those sales.
Encosta was trained by Weir when he was injured but the Archards still owned him and took him to Echuca.




Posted By: mowie
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 6:17pm
Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Oh no Angry does he have any morals towards animals?

bit rich! do you know daz? gay you do understand he has saved some from the sales?meat man? can't save them all sadly


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 9:54pm
Originally posted by Magnolian Khan Magnolian Khan wrote:

Another one from the Archards

Care to enlighten us as to who this person is ???  Please ??


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Posted By: Oritah
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 10:35pm
Local Echuca Trainer Unhappy acacia 




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Posted By: Oritah
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 10:37pm
Originally posted by mowie mowie wrote:

Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Oh no Angry does he have any morals towards animals?

bit rich! do you know daz? gay you do understand he has saved some from the sales?meat man? can't save them all sadly

Really.... which one? 


 


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 11:33pm
Originally posted by Oritah Oritah wrote:

Originally posted by mowie mowie wrote:

Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Oh no Angry does he have any morals towards animals?

bit rich! do you know daz? gay you do understand he has saved some from the sales?meat man? can't save them all sadly

Really.... which one? 


 

OK .  So I get the drift now.
Horses just get the flick if they are not paying their way ????
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$  rule Thumbs Down


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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2016 at 11:36pm
Originally posted by Oritah Oritah wrote:

Local Echuca Trainer Unhappy acacia 



Oh.  One of those .  Cry   Couldnt  train a greyhound to run out of sight on a dark night Censored ??????????


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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2016 at 6:48pm
Originally posted by mowie mowie wrote:

Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Oh no Angry does he have any morals towards animals?

bit rich! do you know daz? gay you do understand he has saved some from the sales?meat man? can't save them all sadly


Saved? Yeah, those he thought he could make an earn out of Disapprove & when they're too damaged to do that, they go direct to the meat pens.
Wednesday sales disallow brand broadcasting on social media but luckily for the Count, he went thru' on Friday with the winning bid amounting to a whole $420, one above the meat buyer & would've been higher had he been in decent condition Ermm
A rather damning post on FB tonight:
https://www.facebook.com/zena.0" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson
https://www.facebook.com/zena.0/posts/10206508998463822" rel="nofollow - - - 1 hr ·

What have Count Encosta and Little Critter got in common?

- both ended up at Echuca Sales
- both saved against the meatman
- both had previous injuries
- both had the same owners/s

And were not sent there after been given to a good home!!!




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Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 17 Mar 2016 at 6:56pm
They did the same thing to Go Trish as well.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2016 at 12:25pm
40 TBs there today, guess it's due to drought conditions & winter not far away Cry

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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2016 at 11:07am
https://www.facebook.com/Countencosta/?rc=p" rel="nofollow - Count Encosta - great news!

https://www.facebook.com/Countencosta/?rc=p" rel="nofollow - Our Count - The People's Horse
He's limited in how much work he can have. Light trotting and gentle exercise are within his capabilities. He's being retrained to take up a position at the Sydney riding for the disabled. Where he will walk around on the lead with beginners.

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Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 12:21am
"Jumps racing gives horses a second chance"
"Jumps racing keeps horses out the knackery"

Yesterday we were alerted to the fact that Eric Musgrove trained horses SINGERSONGWRITER and WILARI were at Pakenham Sales.
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SINGERSONGWRITER - with $59,0000 in prize money and 12 jumps races to her name - raced a month ago at Warrnambool where she ran 4/5 in a hurdle race. Yesterday she appeared at the sales still wearing her race plates. She is nursing a tendon injury.

WILARI with $43,000 in prize money and 2 jumps races to her name - last raced over the hurdles in 2014 and appeared along side SINGERSONGWRITER at the sales.

Both were bid on by kill buyers.

Wilari's profile shows her as "retired" Singersongwriter is shown as still actively trained by Musgrove. No doubt in the next few weeks she will show up "Retired" as well.

Where is the accountability? How does this continue to happen?









Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 12:21am
Thankfully both the above were saved


Posted By: Einstein
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 2:23am
Originally posted by deejays destiny deejays destiny wrote:

"Jumps racing gives horses a second chance"
"Jumps racing keeps horses out the knackery"

Yesterday we were alerted to the fact that Eric Musgrove trained horses SINGERSONGWRITER and WILARI were at Pakenham Sales.
...
SINGERSONGWRITER - with $59,0000 in prize money and 12 jumps races to her name - raced a month ago at Warrnambool where she ran 4/5 in a hurdle race. Yesterday she appeared at the sales still wearing her race plates. She is nursing a tendon injury.

WILARI with $43,000 in prize money and 2 jumps races to her name - last raced over the hurdles in 2014 and appeared along side SINGERSONGWRITER at the sales.

Both were bid on by kill buyers.

Wilari's profile shows her as "retired" Singersongwriter is shown as still actively trained by Musgrove. No doubt in the next few weeks she will show up "Retired" as well.

Where is the accountability? How does this continue to happen?







 
Muscgrove has been sending his horses to Pakenham markets for years. Has no morals. Instead of taking 5 minutes to advertise them through horse deals or social media, where he would get quite good money for them (uninjured) but still at least $500 for those injured but still rehabable, he takes the easy way out.


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 2:48pm
Originally posted by deejays destiny deejays destiny wrote:

Thankfully both the above were saved

Thats good to hear.
Maybe its time for anyone that cares , to start naming and shaming , all over the place .
Not just the trainers, but dont the owners have some say in where their horses end up ?


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Posted By: mowie
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 3:34pm
AA you do get naming shaming them is pointless as large amount of trainers do this, big stables aswell..
don't get why people feel the name to shame the trainers, it's the norm n this day an age to hard to house all the horses.


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Posted By: tillyras
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 3:42pm
Sending racehorses to the kill sales with injuries and race plates on  is completely unacceptable in my book.


Posted By: sparticus
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 3:45pm
mowie, just because its the norm in this day and age doesn't make it ok..


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 3:51pm
I thought racing was trying to improve it's image Confused for the sake of $200 at the sales post expenses, get the bloody local knackery out to remove them F.F.S Angry


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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 4:21pm
Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Originally posted by deejays destiny deejays destiny wrote:

Thankfully both the above were saved

Thats good to hear.
Maybe its time for anyone that cares , to start naming and shaming , all over the place .
Not just the trainers, but dont the owners have some say in where their horses end up ?


There is a down side to this tho'.
Sales are held on Fridays & Wednesdays by 2 different companies, one of which allows photos of brands, microchip IDs etc. when they arrive, thus giving time for research as to what's there.
The other disallows it so ID becomes a bit more clandestine I understand.
I also believe one of those days is basically only attended by meat buyers.
Due to the worry of possible name & shaming, some sellers have decided to bypass the auction by going straight to Shep meats with instructions they are to be killed no matter what so a softly, softly approach appears to be the most beneficial to saving them.
This poor girl appears to have run out of time Cry, there are just so many non commercial available.
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=127510" rel="nofollow - Zabeel (NZ) 1986
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=169561" rel="nofollow - Sir Tristram (IRE) 1971
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=402183" rel="nofollow - Lady Giselle (FR) 1982

http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=749418" rel="nofollow - Reset (AUS) 2000
Foal ref: 41:88


http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=529951" rel="nofollow - Assertive Lass (AUS) 1993
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=300370" rel="nofollow - Zeditave (AUS) 1985
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=411809" rel="nofollow - Sommes Sound (USA) 1984
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=891715" rel="nofollow - Resetting (AUS) 2005
Foal ref: 42:924


http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=506766" rel="nofollow - Danewin (AUS) 1991
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=429557" rel="nofollow - Danehill (USA) 1986
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=145394" rel="nofollow - Cotehele House (GB) 1980

http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=712350" rel="nofollow - Mega Me (AUS) 1999
Foal ref: 41:1266


http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=477167" rel="nofollow - Party Time (AUS) 1990
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=175725" rel="nofollow - Bletchingly (AUS) 1970
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=373279" rel="nofollow - Lanyard (NZ) 1984
Family: 2b

Taproot: http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=332996" rel="nofollow - Hammock (GB) 1871



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Posted By: JoH
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 6:09pm
There is a Sydney lady who has said  via Gatekeeper that she'll buy Resetting if she's still at Shep and wasn't shipped out last night on her way to some European butcher's window .. either way she will be lost to the TB Studbook, never to return if Racing Australia get their way.
Here's hoping she's soon on her way to be a riding horse in Sydney.









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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 6:26pm
Wonderful JoH if it can or has been facilitated Big smile I think we all have to face the fact that breeders cull mares surplus to needs, like or not. I feel most sorry for all the youngsters, who, thru' no fault of their own, haven't had a chance to prove themselves, nor will, e.g. last weeks' flood of unregistered babies from Mornmoot Angry

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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 6:34pm
Mormoot's certainly gone from riches to rags since the days of David Leighton, Bill Birch, Century etc.


Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 11 Apr 2016 at 11:06pm
Well, if its come to this, maybe there needs to be some limits put on the breeding side of things.
Pointless and extremely cruel to be breeding horses just to dog them before they ever have a chance at life.
Racing is supposed to be trying to IMPROVE their image, not throw the whole game in with the likes of last,s weeks clown.  ( Bulla )


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Posted By: Heavy10
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2016 at 12:22am
The high wastage in greyhound racing has seen them impose some rules that will make it financially impossible to just breed willy nilly..in qld each time you get a bitch covered it's now a $2500 fee and then $250 per pup bond. Are there any similar rules in thoroughbred breeding?


Posted By: JoH
Date Posted: 12 Apr 2016 at 3:27am
Re Shep mare:  No definite answer as yet.

Re: "...we all have to face the fact that breeders cull mares surplus to needs, like or not."

Pedigree lovers, buyers at sales, punters and/or anyone standing on the sidelines not actually involved in breeding but willing to point their finger can't have it both ways ...  you cannot expect 'new' bloodlines or combinations of existing /available bloodlines without a stud being able to rotate horses through their individual  breeding programs.
Not everyone is prepared,  able, willing or stark raving crazy enough to operate as a closed stud with their own stallion and a closed group of mares.  To remain viable open studs must move some mares on at regular intervals.
Of those mares some are being sold because they have breeding related 'issues' or the foals produced have not lived up to whatever standard was hoped for ... some are offered for sale thru a TB sale (Inglis etc) because aside from getting some small $ return doing so offers those bloodlines to other breeders lower down the food chain.

Re: "..I feel most sorry for all the youngsters, who, thru' no fault of their own, haven't had a chance to prove themselves, nor will, e.g. last weeks' flood of unregistered babies from Mornmoot Angry"
Too easy to sit in judgement ... I suspect there is considerably more behind this than you will ever know.    ... just sayin




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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 4:33pm
Very disappointing Angry

https://www.facebook.com/lynette.gill.7?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Lynette Gill seems a little ironic that Hong Kong has a return to Australia policy for retired racers and we honour their commitment by sending them to sales for meat........
https://www.facebook.com/robyn.lawrie.16?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Robyn Lawrie More than a little ironic. Breach of trust. HK owner pays for him to be returned to Australia This isn't supposed to happen.

https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson  to  https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Thoroughbred GateKeeper
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/permalink/1540827122885187/" rel="nofollow - - 3 hrs ·

Ex Hong Kong horse at Echuca


Win and Smile (HK)   Sayusayme (Aus)

https://www.facebook.com/cdaffy1?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Christine Daffy The reason I love the name and the song Karin is cause we now have him.

Great job guys/gals to ID & then secure him from a meat pen, I'm sure his HK owner could've easily had him butchered over there if he'd wanted that for him Clap Clap Clap


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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 13 Apr 2016 at 9:44pm
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/permalink/1540827122885187/?comment_id=1540878529546713&comment_tracking=%7Btn%3AR6%7D" rel="nofollow - -
https://www.facebook.com/meredith.prentice.3?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Meredith Prentice Purchased by myself https://www.facebook.com/lynne.aitken.7?hc_location=ufi" rel="nofollow - Lynne Aitken https://www.facebook.com/victoria.armstrong.505?hc_location=ufi" rel="nofollow - Victoria Armstrong and another lady who donated towards him. Will be ridden and assessed next wednesday.


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Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 1:59pm
Another Sale at Echuca today

Saw one on FB that still has race plates on having raced in country NSW last week.
Contrite Heart. Sydney 2yo winner, now a 5yo mare


Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 2:11pm
Originally posted by deejays destiny deejays destiny wrote:

Another Sale at Echuca today

Saw one on FB that still has race plates on having raced in country NSW last week.
Contrite Heart. Sydney 2yo winner, now a 5yo mare

The mare's recent poor form couldn't possibly have anything to do with the fact that she's now 30 starts into a campaign that's lasted over a year and taken her from Moonee Valley to Emerald Angry


Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 2:17pm
Poor form or not, dropping her off at the kill sales is not what she deserves


Posted By: MichaelM
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 3:50pm
City winning 2yo out of a Group 3 winning mare, she has real value as a broodmare.


Posted By: Majestic
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 5:07pm
How does one find out if sold to dogger, with maybe idea of rescuing?


Posted By: Beliskner
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 5:21pm
Somebody needs to explain to this Russell Green wtf a spell is.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 5:43pm
Originally posted by Majestic Majestic wrote:

How does one find out if sold to dogger, with maybe idea of rescuing?


I'm thinking from this that she's safe but have asked for confirmation & as yet, no reply.

https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson
Yes lovely mare
Had a buyer



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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 5:51pm
https://www.facebook.com/HorseAtAuction/timeline


Go to our FaceBook page https://www.facebook.com/HorseAtAuction" rel="nofollow">        

PHONE US ON 0428 335 999


ECHUCA HORSE SALES (held each fortnight on a Wednesday)

We also attend other horse auctions when possible.

The Horses at Auction – Preview team (HAAP) is a small group of volunteers who attend horse auction sales. Our aim is to highlight as many horses to those who cannot attend the sales due to work commitments or live interstate. We photograph the horses, get as many details as possible, and upload pictures and details onto our facebook site. We believe this has the potential to give many horses a second chance.

We offer a secure bidding page for people to bid through, on the ground assessments and a dedicated phone line for all enquiries. We can recommend transport and training facilities.

HAAP is NOT a rescue, we do not accept donations, nor are we financially affiliated with any company, individual, rescue organisation or training facility. Our recommendations are based on experiences and positive feedback from the community.

Details of each auction we attend will be posted on our facebook site. As a rule however, the following applies:

Echuca Horse Sales are held every fortnight on the Wednesday. The horse auction commences at 1pm, 520 McKenzie Road, Echuca. Gates open at 7am http://www.horses-at-auction.com/images/map.jpg" rel="nofollow - ( View Map )

Stephen from Unique Performance Horses has very kindly agreed to hop into a pen and asses a horse that a bidder may be interested in. Please contact him direct on 0408 536 924. Stephen is only available at Echuca.

Please refer to our Facebook page for up to the minute information and updates.

If you would like a member of our team to bid – you must complete the https://www.horses-at-auction.com/application-form.html" rel="nofollow - APPLICATION FORM no later than 12pm (noon) on the day of the auction.
Make note of the Pen Number and a small description of the horse!. If you are unable to complete the form – please contact us on 0428 335 999 for assistance.

PLEASE NOTE: If you cannot get through to our very busy line, please leave a message, and keep trying!



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Posted By: BlackKnight
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 5:57pm
Originally posted by deejays destiny deejays destiny wrote:

Poor form or not, dropping her off at the kill sales is not what she deserves

Sure, but the reality is that it does happen. The horse has 7 listed owners (including the trainer) and you have to wonder how a decision to take her somewhere like the Echuca sales is made. I would guess that the trainer has told the other owners that the mare has no future racing and they should try to get whatever they can for her (maybe or maybe not going into the detail of what that means). I was only suggesting that what is presumably the underlying basis for that decision (the mare's poor recent form) is largely to do with the trainer having NFI.


Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 5:59pm
Disgusting. Still in race plates too by the looks of it?


Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 6:05pm
Originally posted by mowie mowie wrote:

AA you do get naming shaming them is pointless as large amount of trainers do this, big stables aswell..
don't get why people feel the name to shame the trainers, it's the norm n this day an age to hard to house all the horses.
No place for you in racing then Mowie, off you go.


Posted By: Bonjour
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 6:08pm
Originally posted by BlackKnight BlackKnight wrote:

Originally posted by deejays destiny deejays destiny wrote:

Poor form or not, dropping her off at the kill sales is not what she deserves

Sure, but the reality is that it does happen. The horse has 7 listed owners (including the trainer) and you have to wonder how a decision to take her somewhere like the Echuca sales is made. I would guess that the trainer has told the other owners that the mare has no future racing and they should try to get whatever they can for her (maybe or maybe not going into the detail of what that means). I was only suggesting that what is presumably the underlying basis for that decision (the mare's poor recent form) is largely to do with the trainer having NFI.
Any trainer, and I mean any trainer who condones a meat sale will get whats coming to them, we earn our living from these lovely animals, and there is a life after racing, for any trainer/owner who respects the animal.......Karma bites hard, just wait.


Posted By: Majestic
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 7:28pm
If Kylie on line, well done again. Admire your resolve. Surely owners and trainers know of people who would take a retired racehorse and regime or is it all too hard to spend a moment on these animals future after they have given there all to their connections, only to be jettisoned on a whim 😖😡


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 7:40pm
Sold one recently through North East Horse Sales based in Benalla.  They have a website for those interested, just google their name.

Hope I wasn't dudded, however they appear to be an ethical crew, so virtually gave away a mare in the expectation that she was headed for a surrogate life breeding performance horses via embryo transplant.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 8:00pm
Contrite Heart (AUS) 2010



 Life Number: AUS01002158bay mareDate of Birth: 21/08/2010 
 Microchip Number: 985100010965556
DNA Typed: Y 

 by Dane Shadow (AUS) 2001 
 from Dan Baroness (AUS) 2005
 
 bred by Mr G Grimish, NSW 
Official Australian Stud Book Pedigree


http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=429557" rel="nofollow - Danehill (USA) 1986
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=434734" rel="nofollow - Danzig (USA) 1977
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=451064" rel="nofollow - Razyana (USA) 1981

http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=787647" rel="nofollow - Dane Shadow (AUS) 2001
Foal ref: 41:1626


http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=443267" rel="nofollow - Slight Chance (NZ) 1989
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=266060" rel="nofollow - Centaine (AUS) 1980
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=437728" rel="nofollow - Lady Aloof (NZ) 1981
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=1002158" rel="nofollow - Contrite Heart (AUS) 2010
Foal ref: 43:320


http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=863352" rel="nofollow - Statue Of Liberty (USA) 2000
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=526355" rel="nofollow - Storm Cat (USA) 1983
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=673706" rel="nofollow - Charming Lassie (USA) 1987

http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=897543" rel="nofollow - Dan Baroness (AUS) 2005
Foal ref: 42:1679


http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=647811" rel="nofollow - Weekend Surprise (AUS) 1997
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=232174" rel="nofollow - Rubiton (AUS) 1983
http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=423137" rel="nofollow - Seaside Attraction (AUS) 1988
Family: 13a

Taproot: http://www.studbook.org.au/Horse.aspx?hid=230264" rel="nofollow - Juliet (GB) 1851


Career:  45-3-4-4    Prizemoney: $72,202 


Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Originally posted by Majestic Majestic wrote:

How does one find out if sold to dogger, with maybe idea of rescuing?


I'm thinking from this that she's safe but have asked for confirmation & as yet, no reply.

https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson
Yes lovely mare
Had a buyer



https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson Still had racing plates on
Anyone know who trained her?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/permalink/1545163455784887/?comment_id=1545193572448542&reply_comment_id=1545208615780371&comment_tracking=%7Btn%3AR6%7D" rel="nofollow -
https://www.facebook.com/tlincoln01?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow">Trish Lincoln
https://www.facebook.com/tlincoln01?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Trish Lincoln Russell Green from Wangaratta
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/permalink/1545163455784887/?comment_id=1545193572448542&reply_comment_id=1545208722447027&comment_tracking=%7Btn%3AR5%7D" rel="nofollow -
https://www.facebook.com/tlincoln01?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow">Trish Lincoln
https://www.facebook.com/tlincoln01?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Trish Lincoln Her last start was 16/4 so not surprised she still had plates on
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/permalink/1545163455784887/?comment_id=1545193572448542&reply_comment_id=1545208815780351&comment_tracking=%7Btn%3AR4%7D" rel="nofollow -
https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow">Kylie Stephenson
https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson https://www.facebook.com/tlincoln01?hc_location=ufi" rel="nofollow - Trish Lincoln was still active as well

https://www.facebook.com/tlincoln01?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Trish Lincoln Who bought her?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1455379468096620/permalink/1545163455784887/?comment_id=1545193572448542&reply_comment_id=1545210079113558&comment_tracking=%7Btn%3AR2%7D" rel="nofollow -
https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow">Kylie Stephenson
https://www.facebook.com/zena.0?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kylie Stephenson Not sure was thru haap and put a fair price on her



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Posted By: Isaac soloman
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2016 at 9:02pm
The police force may be interested in the heavy horse types. Does someone notify them?


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 2:47pm
https://www.facebook.com/kristen.manning.376?fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Kristen Manning  to  https://www.facebook.com/groups/112139162148926/?ref=nf_target&fref=nf" rel="nofollow - Racing Australia
https://www.facebook.com/groups/112139162148926/permalink/1296952137000950/" rel="nofollow - - - 35 mins ·

there is now fund raising taking place to save BELUS who is at a knackery with limited time... a loving home has been found for this 18Y0 dual G3 winner, money is needed to purchase him and float him to his new home.... please email me for details re the banking kriman@optushome.com.au - it is being handled by Lynne Aitken who has a great track record of saving horses



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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 2:56pm
https://www.facebook.com/kristen.manning.376?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kristen Manning thank you! his strapper has come forward with an offer to take him but she is in Qld so he will need to get up there, we will keep everyone in the loop.

https://www.facebook.com/kristen.manning.376?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kristen Manning have put a plea for donations on my page as already people have been asking how to give. I despair when this happens in the first place then have faith restored by how many people want to help.

https://www.facebook.com/kristen.manning.376?fref=ufi" rel="nofollow - Kristen Manning have had three donations within a few minutes so hopefully this won't take too long


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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!


Posted By: James
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 2:57pm
How the hell does a G3 winner end up at the knackers! The horse picked up $379K for connections but doesn't deserve to be looked after for te rest of it's life apparently.


Posted By: anabel
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 3:18pm
Yes I hope they asked the horse's connections for a donation, at least made them aware of his plight. Can be hard to get in touch after so long I guess.


Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 3:31pm
Maybe the connections gave him to a living forever home, once a horse finishes racing it is near impossible to track where horses end up. Maybe this needs to change, but obviously it is going to be very hard to keep track.


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 4:44pm
The whole point is that once a horse changes ownership, the previous one relinquishes all rights. Apparently this one was owned by the seller for the last 9 yrs, it's just a shame he landed in a kill pen but in saying that, at least he's been spotted & am advised, now saved Big smile thanks to the many involved.

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Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 5:02pm
Good to hear that he has been saved


Posted By: anabel
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 5:14pm
Yes certainly not blaming connections, it's been a very long time since he raced, but they would be worth asking for a donation as if it was one of my former group winners, I'd be happy to dig deep and make sure he was saved.


Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 5:19pm
Following the story on FB, they were trying to get hold of the owners, theY did make contact with his strapper who has offered to look after him in QLD.


Posted By: JoH
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 7:09pm
He's safe.  Clap

Original owners were found, contacted and they didn't hesitate to buy him - he's apparently got a nice warm stable waiting for him at Flemington.

I'm guessing the karma fairy (or her representative) will soon be calling on the people who've had this the pleasure of this gentleman's company / service for the last 9 years and then just tossed him aside ....  Angry


ps: for the people who want to climb up Laverton ... we wouldn't have known about any of this if they hadn't made it known.


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Posted By: deejays destiny
Date Posted: 01 May 2016 at 7:53pm
Glad to hear that Joh



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