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Topic: Makybe Diva Mating Plans
Posted By: Ticino
Subject: Makybe Diva Mating Plans
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2014 at 8:36pm
Hello,
I heard from another source above mentioned mare will be mated with Starspangledbanner. So I looked at her ped and have a somewhat other idea.

When I saw Desert King is the damsire of Maybe I had another idea, I thought of the yet unproven Frankel (by Galileo), so I did a Hypo, and it was quite enlightening, it would be 3x3 Danehill, the 3/4 Brothers Sadlers Wells, the HB Never Bend/Bold Reason + linebreeding to Frankels/Desert Kings damline (Circassia).
It would be a pretty close breeding to Danehill. on hether Hand the Frankel/Danedream foal has the same pattern.
As i see Frankel doesn't have many friends in AUS and if he will ever Shuttles to AUS is "written in the Stars".

Regards, Ticino






Replies:
Posted By: Ticino
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2014 at 8:39pm
Hello,
here is my second Suggestion:

Rip van Winkle/Makybe Diva

It would be free of Danehill, but is 4x5x5x5 ND,3x4x4 3/4 Brothers Sadlers Wells/Nureyev + Lorenzaccio, 4x5 HB Bold Reason/Never Bend, linebreeding to Desert King/Don't Forget me damline (Circassia), linebreeding Lombard/Vaguely Noble (Belle Sauvage)

according the catologue he stands at Windsor Park Stud, NZ for a reasonable fee, so it could by a more likely possibility.

Regards, Ticino


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2014 at 9:22pm
Love your insight & research Ticino Clap

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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!


Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2014 at 9:34pm
Originally posted by Ticino Ticino wrote:

Hello,
here is my second Suggestion: Rip van Winkle/Makybe Diva

It would be free of Danehill, but is 4x5x5x5 ND,3x4x4 3/4 Brothers Sadlers Wells/Nureyev + Lorenzaccio, 4x5 HB Bold Reason/Never Bend, linebreeding to Desert King/Don't Forget me damline (Circassia), linebreeding Lombard/Vaguely Noble (Belle Sauvage)  Regards, Ticino
 
I also believe that could be great match Ticino.  Star
 
Just a pity we'll never know. 


Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2014 at 10:24pm
Whilst I doubt it will ever happen. Canford Cliffs is out of the 5th dam. Love that match up.

5th Dam - Amerigo's Fancy (USA)
Amerigo's Fancy (USA) (Amerigo), 1962, f
Amata (USA) (Nodouble), 1972, f
Swell Time (IRE) (Sadler's Wells), 1988, f
Sadhya (FR) (Prince Sabo), 1998, f
Sweet Wind Music (GB) (Zamindar), 2004, f
Cima Sandown (GB) (Medicean), 2010, c
Statua (IRE) (Statoblest), 1995, f
St Moritz (IRE) (Medicean), 2006, g
Ameridouble (USA) (Nodouble), 1973, f
Pale Purple (USA) (Verbatim), 1978, f
Purple Ridge (USA) (Cox's Ridge), 1993, f
Feed the Kitty (USA) (Coronado's Quest), 2000, f
Dirty Dish Mitch (USA) (Mr. Broad Blade), 2005, g
Justdontcallmejeri (USA) (Mr. Broad Blade), 2006, g
Dancing Deer (USA) (Deerhound), 1999, f
Top Cat Boogie (USA) (Big Top Cat), 2009, g
Triple Tipple (USA) (Raise a Cup), 1979, f
Drei (USA) (Lyphard), 1991, f
Triple Sharp (GB) (Selkirk), 1997, f
Laureldean Express (GB) (Inchinor), 2004, f
Ellmau (GB) (Dr Fong), 2005, g
Nasri (GB) (Kyllachy), 2006, g
Pina Colada (GB) (Sabrehill), 1999, f
Mrs Marsh (GB) (Marju), 2001, f
Canford Cliffs (IRE) (Tagula), 2007, c


Posted By: Off and racing
Date Posted: 16 Jul 2014 at 10:44pm
Sepoy would be interesting with the success of Desert King with Canny Lad mares and Sepoy being from that family. Canny Lad also has influence in LA Armistad's ped thru redoutes. There would also be 7 dups of Natamala in the 6th gen. Also ensure the foal got some speed minimizing risk of a dour plodder.


Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 17 Jul 2014 at 9:52pm
Wonder if they have contemplated So You Think as a mating at any stage ?


Posted By: Off and racing
Date Posted: 19 Jul 2014 at 1:51pm
Holder that mating may result in another rock stardom


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2014 at 12:14pm
High Chaparral colt named "Surrey" - owners Lloyd and Nick Williams


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 28 Jul 2014 at 1:45pm
Originally posted by Dizzy Dizzy wrote:

High Chaparral colt named "Surrey" - owners Lloyd and Nick Williams

If we are lucky we may see him at the back end of next season in some of the mile 2yo races.

We are lucky in in that stable he will be given every chance to do what his pedigree suggests he should do.

We are unlucky in that he is in a stable that does not care about making stallions. Subby will be happy about that.




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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2014 at 7:54pm
Originally posted by Off and racing Off and racing wrote:

Sepoy would be interesting with the success of Desert King with Canny Lad mares and Sepoy being from that family. Canny Lad also has influence in LA Armistad's ped thru redoutes. There would also be 7 dups of Natamala in the 6th gen. Also ensure the foal got some speed minimizing risk of a dour plodder.
 
Wouldn't have thought DK had a history of success over CL mares.  Only one springs to mind, but am more than happy to proved otherwise.


Posted By: Off and racing
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2014 at 9:55pm
The 1 that springs to mind I presume is desert war. There is also his bro our desert warrior less successful but still you would have been happy with his efforts if you bred him. The current AEI is 7.95 and from 12 named foals 7 winners and 38 wins. Also other branches of the star kingdom line goes well; marscay 8 winners from 12 named foals, bletchingly 5 winners (1 stakeswinner) from 8 named foals, lord balina 2 winners from 3 named foals, luskin star 1 winner from 2 named foals, biscay 1 winner from 2 named foals.


Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2014 at 10:21pm
where r u getting these stats OandR?


Posted By: Off and racing
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2014 at 10:31pm
I get them off stallions.com.au but not all stallions have them now they have changed the site so get them off gavelhouse which I could imagine is powered by Arion pedigrees (can't confirm that tho)


Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2014 at 10:40pm
cheers, ur looking at the nicks. 


Posted By: Buckpasser
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2014 at 2:36pm
He has only sired three group winners from his time in Australia, one is from a CL mare and one from a Bletchingly mare. Banana Man is from a Kaapstad mare, also carries Bletchinglys Relic. Having said that, one stakes winner, at listed, from his last 1000 foals and no stakes winners in his last 12 crops, according to Arion.


Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 1:04pm
Originally posted by Ticino Ticino wrote:

Hello,
here is my second Suggestion:

Rip van Winkle/Makybe Diva

It would be free of Danehill, but is 4x5x5x5 ND,3x4x4 3/4 Brothers Sadlers Wells/Nureyev + Lorenzaccio, 4x5 HB Bold Reason/Never Bend, linebreeding to Desert King/Don't Forget me damline (Circassia), linebreeding Lombard/Vaguely Noble (Belle Sauvage)

according the catologue he stands at Windsor Park Stud, NZ for a reasonable fee, so it could by a more likely possibility.

Regards, Ticino
 
Thanks, Ticino. Interesting to get a completely impartial view of the Diva amd her prospects as a mum - she could certainly do with a bit of dating-advice, given the results so far.
I don't think the size of the service fee is an issue, though!


Posted By: bradjm
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 2:54pm
If she were mine I'd be giving street cry a crack she's been down the saddlers wells path


Posted By: Mr Prospector
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 4:20pm
Originally posted by Ticino Ticino wrote:


Hello,
I heard from another source above mentioned mare will be mated with Starspangledbanner. So I looked at her ped and have a somewhat other idea.

When I saw Desert King is the damsire of Maybe I had another idea, I thought of the yet unproven Frankel (by Galileo), so I did a Hypo, and it was quite enlightening, it would be 3x3 Danehill, the 3/4 Brothers Sadlers Wells, the HB Never Bend/Bold Reason + linebreeding to Frankels/Desert Kings damline (Circassia).
It would be a pretty close breeding to Danehill. on hether Hand the Frankel/Danedream foal has the same pattern.
As i see Frankel doesn't have many friends in AUS and if he will ever Shuttles to AUS is "written in the Stars".

Regards, Ticino




Just an observation on the cross / reinforcement of Circassia . There was a stallion who stood in NZ Maroof who is out of the same family as Desert King / Frankel / Don't Forget Me and he had two G1 winners Maroofity and Hit the Roof both out of Don't Forget Me mares .

I'd hazard a guess Maroof would have seen only a handful of Don't Forget Me mares so its a good strike rate .


Posted By: Ninski
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 5:06pm
The Redoutes Choice - Tugela is running at Narromine today...


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2014 at 5:28pm
Holy @#$% over 800m. LOL

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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2014 at 3:15pm
Shadowofexcellence - 7yo gelding. $1.2 million at Easter in 2009.
30-3:2:5 and $63,815. Ran 10.4 lengths 6th of 9 at Narromine (although that was first up - wins are in the 14-2100m range).
 
Full sister La Amistad looking much more promising.


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2014 at 12:29pm
filly by All Too Hard born yesterday morning. There is a picture on the Makybe Diva Facebook page.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2014 at 6:18pm
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/All_Too_Hard_AUS-82716" rel="nofollow - All Too Hard (AUS) http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/hypomating/All_Too_Hard_AUS-82716/Makybe_Diva_GB-345315#" rel="nofollow -  
2009, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Casino_Prince_AUS-95729" rel="nofollow - Casino Prince (AUS) http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/hypomating/All_Too_Hard_AUS-82716/Makybe_Diva_GB-345315#" rel="nofollow -  
2003, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Flying_Spur_AUS-58701" rel="nofollow - Flying Spur (AUS)
1992, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Danehill_USA-145496" rel="nofollow - Danehill (USA)
1986, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Danzig_USA-273049" rel="nofollow - Danzig (USA)  , 1977, [IC]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Razyana_USA-169402" rel="nofollow - Razyana (USA)  , 1981, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Rolls_USA-447443" rel="nofollow - Rolls (USA)
1984, ch
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Mr_Prospector_USA-80563" rel="nofollow - Mr Prospector (USA)  , 1970, [BC]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Grand_Luxe_CAN-138971" rel="nofollow - Grand Luxe (CAN)  , 1974, ch
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Lady_Capel_AUS-50536" rel="nofollow - Lady Capel (AUS)
1993, br
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Last_Tycoon_IRE-224721" rel="nofollow - Last Tycoon (IRE)
1983, db
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Try_My_Best_USA-255405" rel="nofollow - Try My Best (USA)  , 1975, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Mill_Princess_IRE-159464" rel="nofollow - Mill Princess (IRE)  , 1977, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Kew_Gardens_FR-80934" rel="nofollow - Kew Gardens (FR)
1981, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Kenmare_FR-220914" rel="nofollow - Kenmare (FR)  , 1975, gr
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Garden_Green_IRE-464891" rel="nofollow - Garden Green (IRE)  , 1964, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Helsinge_AUS-304260" rel="nofollow - Helsinge (AUS)
2001, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Desert_Sun_GB-77882" rel="nofollow - Desert Sun (GB)
1988, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Green_Desert_USA-429181" rel="nofollow - Green Desert (USA)
1983, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Danzig_USA-273049" rel="nofollow - Danzig (USA)  , 1977, [IC]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Foreign_Courier_USA-216264" rel="nofollow - Foreign Courier (USA)  , 1979, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Solar_GB-321098" rel="nofollow - Solar (GB)
1973, ch
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Hotfoot_GB-280845" rel="nofollow - Hotfoot (GB)  , 1966, br
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/LAnguissola_IRE-237028" rel="nofollow - L'Anguissola (IRE)  , 1967, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Scandinavia_AUS-459254" rel="nofollow - Scandinavia (AUS)
1994, ch
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Snippets_AUS-327616" rel="nofollow - Snippets (AUS)
1984, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Lunchtime_GB-72591" rel="nofollow - Lunchtime (GB)  , 1970, ch
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Easy_Date_AUS-137824" rel="nofollow - Easy Date (AUS)  , 1977, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Song_Of_Norway_AUS-75939" rel="nofollow - Song Of Norway (AUS)
1982, gr
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Vain_AUS-115462" rel="nofollow - Vain (AUS)  , 1966, ch
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Love_Song_DEN-285204" rel="nofollow - Love Song (DEN)  , 1976, gr
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Makybe_Diva_GB-345315" rel="nofollow - Makybe Diva (GB) http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/hypomating/All_Too_Hard_AUS-82716/Makybe_Diva_GB-345315#" rel="nofollow -  
1999, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Desert_King_IRE-236339" rel="nofollow - Desert King (IRE)
1994, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Danehill_USA-145496" rel="nofollow - Danehill (USA)
1986, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Danzig_USA-273049" rel="nofollow - Danzig (USA)
1977, [IC]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Northern_Dancer_CAN-302260" rel="nofollow - Northern Dancer (CAN)  , 1961, [BC]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Pas_de_Nom_USA-284156" rel="nofollow - Pas de Nom (USA)  , 1968, db
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Razyana_USA-169402" rel="nofollow - Razyana (USA)
1981, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/His_Majesty_USA-31825" rel="nofollow - His Majesty (USA)  , 1968, [C]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Spring_Adieu_USA-199243" rel="nofollow - Spring Adieu (USA)  , 1974, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Sabaah_USA-333964" rel="nofollow - Sabaah (USA)
1988, ch
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Nureyev_USA-310071" rel="nofollow - Nureyev (USA)
1977, [C]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Northern_Dancer_CAN-302260" rel="nofollow - Northern Dancer (CAN)  , 1961, [BC]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Special_USA-120570" rel="nofollow - Special (USA)  , 1969, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Dish_Dash_GB-174221" rel="nofollow - Dish Dash (GB)
1979, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Bustino_GB-446417" rel="nofollow - Bustino (GB)  , 1971, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Loose_Cover_GB-451340" rel="nofollow - Loose Cover (GB)  , 1963, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Tugela_USA-220363" rel="nofollow - Tugela (USA)
1995, db
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Riverman_USA-398783" rel="nofollow - Riverman (USA)
1969, [IC]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Never_Bend_USA-271084" rel="nofollow - Never Bend (USA)
1960, db [BI]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Nasrullah_IRE-30629" rel="nofollow - Nasrullah (IRE)  , 1940, 
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Lalun_USA-392844" rel="nofollow - Lalun (USA)  , 1952, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/River_Lady_USA-274749" rel="nofollow - River Lady (USA)
1963, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Prince_John_USA-439474" rel="nofollow - Prince John (USA)  , 1953, ch [C]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Nile_Lily_USA-347500" rel="nofollow - Nile Lily (USA)  , 1954, db
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Rambushka_USA-251670" rel="nofollow - Rambushka (USA)
1986, b
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Roberto_USA-189085" rel="nofollow - Roberto (USA)
1969, [C]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Hail_To_Reason_USA-76236" rel="nofollow - Hail To Reason (USA)  , 1958, br [C]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Bramalea_USA-142988" rel="nofollow - Bramalea (USA)  , 1959, db
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Katsura_USA-34227" rel="nofollow - Katsura (USA)
1977, ch
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Northern_Dancer_CAN-302260" rel="nofollow - Northern Dancer (CAN)  , 1961, [BC]
http://www.blacktypepedigree.com/horse/Noble_Fancy_USA-128920" rel="nofollow - Noble Fancy (USA)  , 1971, b


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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 22 May 2015 at 1:26pm
Makybe Diva/Lonhro gelding - Taqneen, first start on Tuesday at Pakenham. Has had a throat op.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 22 May 2015 at 1:37pm
Originally posted by Dizzy Dizzy wrote:

Makybe Diva/Lonhro gelding - Taqneen, first start on Tuesday at Pakenham. Has had a throat op.

Apart from the testical operation.

What a shame this mare and her off spring are in Australia.

Complete waste.




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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 22 May 2015 at 1:47pm
That it is djebel... I will be watching with interest however. Would love to see one go well.


Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 27 May 2015 at 4:11pm
I've got a bit of man-love for Maxios. How would that go?


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 27 May 2015 at 4:45pm

  
Maxios (GB)
Bay 2008
Monsun
Bay or brown 1990
Konigsstuhl
Brown 1976
Dschingis Khan
Brown 1961
Tamerlane1952 1-e
Donna Diana1956 6-e
Konigskronung
Brown 1965
Tiepoletto1956 2-c
Kronung1957 5-h
Mosella
Bay 1985
Surumu
Chestnut 1974
Literat1965 7-b
Surama1970 19>
Monasia
Bay 1979
Authi1970 14-b
Monacensia1969 8-a
Moonlight's Box
Bay 1996
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic1954 14-c
Natalma1957 2-d
Special
Bay 1969
Forli1963 3-b
Thong1964 5-h
Coup de Genie
Bay 1991
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native1961 8-f
Gold Digger1962 13-c
Coup de Folie
Bay 1982
Halo1969 2-d
Raise the Standard1978 2-d
Makybe Diva (GB)
Bay 1999
Desert King
Bay 1994
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer1961 2-d
Pas de Nom1968 7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty1968 4-d
Spring Adieu1974 2-d
Sabaah
Chestnut 1988
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer1961 2-d
Special1969 5-h
Dish Dash
Bay 1979
Bustino1971 1-w
Loose Cover1963 1-k
Tugela
Brown 1995
Riverman
Bay 1969
Never Bend
Bay 1960
Nasrullah1940 9-c
Lalun1952 19-b
River Lady
Bay 1963
Prince John1953 14-f
Nile Lily1954 10-a
Rambushka
Bay 1986
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason1958 4-n
Bramalea1959 12-c
Katsura
Chestnut 1977
Northern Dancer1961 2-d
Noble Fancy1971 9-f
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer4m x 5m,5m,5f Nureyev3f x 4f


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Posted By: Red Hare
Date Posted: 27 May 2015 at 8:22pm
Kind of banking on Monsun being the dominant influence & hoping the rest doesn't make a mess of it!

There's not a lot of excitement in Makybe's dam line (at least not to my novice eye). There is a different daughter of Mahmoud in Betsy Ross, but your 8 dams deep by the time you find her.

In any case, the whole exercise would be cheaper than another run at Redoute's. Maxy will throw a leg over for €10k. That leaves the best part of $100k to get over and back. He could bring back a playmate at that rate.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 20 Jul 2015 at 3:17am
Unnamed  
Hampton Court (AUS)
Bay 2011
Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer1961 2-d
Pas de Nom1968 7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty1968 4-d
Spring Adieu1974 2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly1970 7-a
Jesmond Lass1975 14>
Dancing Show
Bay 1983
Nijinsky1967 8-f
Show Lady1976 8-f
Roses 'n' Wine
Chestnut 2005
Broken Vow
Bay 1997
Unbridled
Bay 1987
Fappiano1977 16-a
Gana Facil1981 1-r
Wedding Vow
Bay 1988
Nijinsky1967 8-f
Wedding Picture1981 A29
Regent's Fancy
Bay 1987
Vice Regent
Chestnut 1967
Northern Dancer1961 2-d
Victoria Regina1958 10-c
Noble Fancy
Bay 1971
Vaguely Noble1965 1-d
Amerigo's Fancy1962 9-f
Makybe Diva (GB)
Bay 1999
Desert King
Bay 1994
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer1961 2-d
Pas de Nom1968 7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty1968 4-d
Spring Adieu1974 2-d
Sabaah
Chestnut 1988
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer1961 2-d
Special1969 5-h
Dish Dash
Bay 1979
Bustino1971 1-w
Loose Cover1963 1-k
Tugela
Brown 1995
Riverman
Bay 1969
Never Bend
Bay 1960
Nasrullah1940 9-c
Lalun1952 19-b
River Lady
Bay 1963
Prince John1953 14-f
Nile Lily1954 10-a
Rambushka
Bay 1986
Roberto
Bay 1969
Hail to Reason1958 4-n
Bramalea1959 12-c
Katsura
Chestnut 1977
Northern Dancer1961 2-d
Noble Fancy1971 9-f
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m,5m x 5m,5m,5f Danehill3m x 3m Nijinsky5f,5f x 
  Noble Fancy4f x 5f


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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2015 at 11:37am
Makybe Diva foaled a filly to Starspangledbanner late last week. Picture on the filly on the facebook page.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2015 at 1:39pm
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Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2015 at 1:43pm
Thanks yet again djebel. I wouldn't be able to post without you to clean up for me.


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 06 Oct 2017 at 10:14am

COLLINS

5yo Brown Mare
D.O.B: 21-Sep-2012
by DESERT KING (IRE)  from TUGELA (USA)
http://www.racingaustralia.horse/FreeServices/PedigreeSearch.aspx?horseName=Collins&sireName=Desert+King&damName=Tugela" rel="nofollow -
StatusRetired
Owner’s Details at retirement
(when Racing Australia is advised)
Makybe Racing & Breeding Pty Ltd
Stewards Embargoes None on record
Emergency Vaccination Record http://www.studbook.org.au/horse.aspx?hid=1050501&pagetype=VCCN" rel="nofollow - Last Gear Change* None on record.
Trainer
Racing ColoursRoyal Blue, White Stars, Red And White Checks And Checked Cap
CareerSummary: 0-0:0:0    Prizemoney: $0    
1st Up: 0:0-0-0    2nd Up: 0:0-0-0    
Firm: 0:0-0-0     Good: 0:0-0-0     Soft: 0:0-0-0     Heavy: 0:0-0-0    Synthetic: 0:0-0-0


Posted By: Xavier
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2019 at 4:22pm

DEMAND ATTENTION

3yo Chestnut Filly
D.O.B: 26-Aug-2015
by STARSPANGLEDBANNER  from MAKYBE DIVA (GB)

Trainer : Chris Waller (Flemington)

Has had two trials in Sydney, now in the Melbourne stables.

Nominated for a 1600m maiden at Seymour on Monday, also in the 1300m maiden at Bendigo on Tuesday,

Down to wear Ear Muffs, Crossover Noseband and Lugging Bit,


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Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 10 Apr 2019 at 4:40pm
Aslo has her 2 yr old namedalthough I am thinking we will not see her for a while....

SUBLIME DIVA

2yo Bay or Brown Filly
D.O.B: 15-Oct-2016
by BRAZEN BEAU  from MAKYBE DIVA (GB)
http://www.racingaustralia.horse/FreeServices/PedigreeSearch.aspx?horseName=Sublime+Diva&sireName=Brazen+Beau&damName=Makybe+Diva" rel="nofollow -
StatusActive
Owner’s Details  Makybe Racing & Breeding Pty Ltd
Stewards Embargoes None on record
Last Gear Change* None on record.
Trainer http://www.racingaustralia.horse/InteractiveForm/TrainerLastRuns.aspx?trainercode=MTM5NjQwMDA%3d&trainername=Mr+Chris+Waller" rel="nofollow - Racing ColoursRoyal Blue, White Southern Cross, Red And White Checks And Checked Cap, Royal Blue Peak And Pom Pom
CareerSummary: 0-0:0:0    Prizemoney: $0    
1st Up: 0:0-0-0    2nd Up: 0:0-0-0    
Firm: 0:0-0-0     Good: 0:0-0-0     Soft: 0:0-0-0     Heavy: 0:0-0-0    Synthetic: 0:0-0-0


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 3:33pm
Geez, what a dart throwing exercise her choice of mates have been Confused

Her fist foal arrived in 2007. He was by Galileo.

He sold as a yearling for $1,500,00 purchased by this year’s Melbourne Cup winning trainer Danny O’brien.

He raced as ROCKSTARDOM and won $29,015 in prizemoney.

He was then sold for $17,000

He is now dead.

Her 2nd foal arrived in 2008. She was by Fusaichi Pegasus.

She sold as a yearling for $1,200,000 purchased by trainer Mark Kavanagh.

She raced as LA DOLCA DIVA and won $6,500 in prizemoney.

She was then sold for $300,000 and has produced a stakes place getter in Touch of Mink.

Her 3rd foal arrived in 2009. He was by Encosta De Lago.

He was sent to France to race.

He raced as COASTER and was unplaced in his 4 starts winning $2,350 in prizemoney.

His whereabouts at present are unknown.

Her 4th foal arrived in 2011. He was by Lonhro.

He sold as a yearling for $360,000 purchased by Shadwell Australia.

He raced as TAQNEEN and won $14,750 in prizemoney.

He was sold for $5,500 and his only two wins were at the Picnic races.

Her 5th foal arrived in 2012. He was by High Chaparral.

He sold for $275,000 purchased by James Bester.

He raced as SURREY and has won $20,476 in prizemoney.

He’s won just 1 race and his latest run was 5 months ago when 15th in a BM 65 race.

Her 6th foal arrived in 2014. She was by All Too Hard.

She sold as a yearling for $300,000 purchased by trainer Tony McEvoy.

She races as DIVANATION and has won $75,600.

She’s had 7 starts, for 2 wins and 4 placings and is stakes placed.

Her 7th foal arrived in 2015. She was by Starspangledbanner.

She was retained to race by her breeder Tony Santic.

She raced as DEMAND ATTENTION and won $21,400 in prizemoney.

She retired this year after just one win from 5 starts.

Her 8th foal arrived in 2016. She was by Brazen Beau.

She has been retained by her breeder Tony Santic

She will race as SUBLIME DIVA.

She is a 3YO with Chris Waller and is yet to race.

Her 9th foal arrived in 2018. She is by Written Tycoon.

She is unraced and unnamed.

Her 10th foal arrived in 2019. She is by More Than Ready

In the great mare’s favour is the fact her babies, while all slow, have gotten a little better each time one has arrived.

And she looks like she might meld better with sprinting stallions.

Time will tell and she has an unraced 3YO, a 2YO and now this foal to improve her name in the breeding barn.



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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!


Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 12 Nov 2019 at 4:01pm
Surely she’s done enough now to retire now


Posted By: Kimberley Mine
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 5:50am
If she had a modest race record, she would have been pensioned or sold as a riding horse by her 5th or 6th foal.  Hoping for lightning to strike so far has meant a lot of dry seasons.




Posted By: Shrunk in the Wash
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 5:31pm
What’s staggering is the crazy amount paid for the first 6 foals 🤪


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 6:02pm
Very expensive & exclusive bragging rights to own the son or daughter of  multiple Melb. Cup winner Big smile Ego driven is my guess.


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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!


Posted By: diomed
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 9:15pm
My one visit to Australia from Ireland in 2003, arrived the morning of the Melbourne Cup, went to the race, record crowd 122k, couldn't get within 50 yards of the track, did not see one horse.  I heard Makbye Diva won.
The lesson from her breeding record is it would have been better to send her to $1,000 sires.
As said above. it is about bragging rights, how much you spent, not how much you won.


Posted By: diomed
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2019 at 9:19pm
If you give a trainer or a bloodstock agent your money, $10k or $10 million, they will buy a horse, tell you it has a great walk, a good attitude, is athletic, comes from a good family, is by a sire who stamps his stock. Ermm


Posted By: Kimberley Mine
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2019 at 2:57am
Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Very expensive & exclusive bragging rights to own the son or daughter of  multiple Melb. Cup winner Big smile Ego driven is my guess.

Speculation on breeding value.  Ego is involved to some extent, speculation is bigger.  If that $1M colt wins big, you get HUGE returns.  Think of the money that will come in for The Autumn Sun.  If your $1M colt is one of the few who is a super hit at stud, the Snitzels or IAI's of the world, your payoff is even bigger.

If your horse is good enough to stand at stud, then your $1M investment (minus racetrack stuff) can be paid off in 1 year with a $7500 fee and 130 outside mares.  That's I Am Invincible, by the way.  If your investment turns out to be a The Autumn Sun, with a starting fee of $77,000, you need 13 mares per million dollars of purchase to be even on your investment, and everything else is gravy.


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Mar 2020 at 11:28pm
I took 26 starts finally Touch Of Mink got to 2000m and she pulverised them.




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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: Dizzy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2020 at 10:46am
Yes, it was a good win and why didn't this happen ages ago....although there has been change in trainer. Her last 4 have been 1600, 1600, 1600 and now 2025.


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 03 May 2020 at 3:49pm
Sublime Diva has been moved from Waller to Colin Little
She was down to debut at Bairnsdale today but was scratched


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 23 Jun 2020 at 6:54pm
Tony McEvoy:

"Divanation is a lightly raced daughter of the great Makybe Diva and unfortunately hasn't been seen for nearly a year after knee surgery.

"She ran a place in the Warrnambool Cup at just her sixth start and has a lot of talent."



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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!


Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2022 at 1:01pm
From racing.com

A four-year-old daughter of Makybe Diva has been snapped up for $125k on Inglis Digital’s most recent catalogue that ended on Wednesday.

Avila, an unraced mare by Written Tycoon out of the three-time Melbourne Cup-winner was purchased by owner of stallion Russian Camelot, John Wheeler.

Despite the Diva’s seven progeny who’ve made it to the racetrack sharing an underwhelming record, the opportunity to buy into the family of the seven-time Group 1-winner was an opportunity Wheeler simply couldn’t let slip.

“It’s a bit hard to walk away from a family like Makybe Diva’s, there isn’t going to be any more,” he said.

“The family is a strong family, a lot of the progeny haven’t raced as well as the dam, but they have raced and they have won, so at the end of the day you can only say there’s a chance.”

Wheeler confirmed Avila was purchased as a breeding proposition, to be served by Russian Camelot in the coming months.

“I’ll send her up to Three Bridges with Toby Liston and his family, I’m sure they’ll do a good job,” Wheeler said.

“I’m happy, she’s going to go to Russian Camelot, I’m looking forward to hopefully finding a decent runner from them.

“Any breeding like racing is a gamble, if there was any certainty in it, there’d be no disappointed owners of horses sending it to a Werribee maiden.

“These things tend to run in generations, if you’ve got an active family and you can put it to what I hope is a very good sire in Russian Camelot I’m very happy.”

Avila is the eighth progeny of Makybe Diva and finished sixth in a seven horse jump out field over 900m at Murtoa late last month before being put up for sale.

Of her nine progeny to date, only Divanation, Taqneen, and Rockstardom have won above maiden grade.

Makybe Diva’s progeny to date:

Rockstardom (Galileo) – Danny O’Brien – 12: 2-0-2 – prizemoney: $29,015

La Dolce Diva (Fusaichi Pegasus) – Mark Kavanagh – 4: 0-0-0 – prizemoney: $6,500

Taqneen (Lonhro) – Mick Bell – 35: 2-4-3 – prizemoney: $14,270

Surrey (High Chaparral) – Liam Howley – 4: 1-2-0 – prizemoney: $9,987

Divanation (All Too Hard) – Tony McEvoy – 9: 2-2-2 – prizemoney: $77,200

Demand Attention (Starspangledbanner) – Chris Waller – 5: 1-0-0 – prizemoney: $29,740

Sublime Diva (Brazen Beau) – Colin Little – 13: 1-4-1 – prizemoney: $59,905

Terrifictonka (More Than Ready) – Anthony & Sam Freedman – yet to race



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Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing


Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 13 Nov 2022 at 11:56am
You’ll never guess who Richard Otto’s stunning LOVERACING.NZ Thoroughbred Show Horse winner Surrey is out of 👀🤩
The beautiful gelding by High Chaparral is out of none other than three time Melbourne Cup champion, Makybe Diva 🏆❤️
Surrey recorded 1 win and 7 placings on the track before being retired, and is stamping his mark in his life off the track in the show ring 😍

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Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it!


Posted By: QuizAbout
Date Posted: 15 Nov 2022 at 12:48pm
Shawy38]
Unfortunately i dont think many were given the time needed, they would of probably performed better at an older age. Divanation looked the goods but pushed too early, and a pity they didnt keep the Written Tycoon in, probably would of been a smoky later on.



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