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Topic: Chautauqua
Posted By: VPI
Subject: Chautauqua
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2014 at 12:45pm
That is all.

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Posted By: room for a slew
Date Posted: 05 Apr 2014 at 11:16pm
Yep I agree.
Put green beret in small category.
Bet of the month


Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 12:01pm
Really? Level weights with Whttington? Surely not.


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 12:09pm
If he was trained by Barry Nobody, the horse would be 20/1.
Not to say he cant win, but boy, maiden win to this class and you are asked to take $3.80??


Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 1:08pm
Maiden win in a field of five.


Posted By: Long Lunch
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 2:23pm
Shamalia's win over Sidestep has to be pretty good form for this surely. 


Posted By: LR80
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 2:38pm
Shamalia draws out near Terrrigal. Will be tough from there


Posted By: Long Lunch
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 3:00pm
True that. I'd still rather take $7.50 about the one that's just beaten Sidestep, instead of $3.80 about one that's just won a Geelong maiden, even taking into account the barriers.


Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 3:59pm
Shamalia is the one it has to beat.

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 6:30pm
No point betting in that weather and only listened on radio but sounded like a big effort from way back in those conditions?


Posted By: linghi11
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 6:31pm
some very ordinary rides there, gosford guineas often gets the wet luck Stern Smile

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Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 6:33pm
Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

No point betting in that weather and only listened on radio but sounded like a big effort from way back in those conditions?
held up on straightening cost it winning

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Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 6:36pm
Wow had 2nd, third, fourth and fifth in the quad dammit. Just not my weekend at all.


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by Pardon_My_Dust Pardon_My_Dust wrote:

Wow had 2nd, third, fourth and fifth in the quad dammit. Just not my weekend at all.

I resisted chasing my losses today, after a bad day yesterday!   
Sounded like dothraki has come back ok?


Posted By: LR80
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 6:42pm
The conditions were absolutely disgraceful.

Chautauqua ran through the ground super and will take a stack of improvement.

There's a win for Dothraki sooner rather than later. Thought the latter had a tough run on the speed and condition gave out in the final 50.


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 6:43pm
Yep that's what it sounded like. Thx.


Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 6:45pm
Yeah Stayer Dothraki was a great run worked the whole way.

Couldn't resist having a crack when I saw the fields. This was the leg I was most confident of go figure. LOL


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 6:49pm
Originally posted by Pardon_My_Dust Pardon_My_Dust wrote:

Yeah Stayer Dothraki was a great run worked the whole way.

Couldn't resist having a crack when I saw the fields. This was the leg I was most confident of go figure. LOL

I only go sunday quaddies if I can take 3 one outs and get 1000% for $50! Couldn't see that happening anywhere today!


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 8:17pm
Was a moral beaten. Hawkes are very astute judges, they are very good at placing their horses where they can win, and this horse clearly was showing massive potential on the track.
Is there a better stable in this country right now? I doubt it.


Posted By: linghi11
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 8:42pm
you're right subby, Hawkesy is a real master 

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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 8:46pm
Outstanding trainer - up to a mile.

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Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 8:50pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Outstanding trainer - up to a mile.

Never thought of that... you're right.


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 8:51pm
Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Outstanding trainer - up to a mile.

Never thought of that... you're right.



Curata Storm won the BMW, Fuimicino won plenty, Malauckyday 2nd in a Melbourne Cup. Bit harsh.I would say its more down to Darley than his ability. Darley aren't interested in stayers.


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 8:56pm
Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Outstanding trainer - up to a mile.

Never thought of that... you're right.



Curata Storm won the BMW, Fuimicino won plenty, Malauckyday 2nd in a Melbourne Cup. Bit harsh.I would say its more down to Darley than his ability. Darley aren't interested in stayers.

maybe but those 3 u mentioned aren't exactly star stayers in retrospect. Just interesting that hawkes doesn't train stayers. Feel stupid for not realiIng that.


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 9:08pm
Even more reason to give them credit if they managed to win big races with average horseflesh...
He was Ingham and Darley trainer, they breed sprinter/milers, so that is what he knows.
Who is a good trainer of stayers by the way? No trainer in this country dominates staying events, they all take it in turns.


Posted By: Winning Run
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 9:28pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Outstanding trainer - up to a mile.


Has won a Caulfield Cup
10 Derbies
5 Oaks
4 BMW's
1 metrop
2 Sydney cups
1 perth cup
+ about 10 other group 1 wins over 2000m.

Feel free to put your record up against his.



Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 9:34pm
Originally posted by Winning Run Winning Run wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Outstanding trainer - up to a mile.


Has won a Caulfield Cup
10 Derbies
5 Oaks
4 BMW's
1 metrop
2 Sydney cups
1 perth cup
+ about 10 other group 1 wins over 2000m.

Feel free to put your record up against his.


I put this comment right up there with Royal Descent was lucky to win the Oaks.


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 9:53pm
Originally posted by Winning Run Winning Run wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Outstanding trainer - up to a mile.


Has won a Caulfield Cup
10 Derbies
5 Oaks
4 BMW's
1 metrop
2 Sydney cups
1 perth cup
+ about 10 other group 1 wins over 2000m.

Feel free to put your record up against his.



Large fish in a small pond.

He is competing in the weakest miler + market on the planet.


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 9:55pm
Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Outstanding trainer - up to a mile.

Never thought of that... you're right.



Curata Storm won the BMW, Fuimicino won plenty, Malauckyday 2nd in a Melbourne Cup. Bit harsh.I would say its more down to Darley than his ability. Darley aren't interested in stayers.


Darley breed plenty of stayers.

It's a nonsense comment to suggest they are not interested in them.



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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 9:57pm
Australia does not have ANY trainers that excel in the stamina required races.



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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 10:03pm
Oh and whilst I am at it, what a surprise to see this beautifully bred male is gelded.

No wonder Japan leaves us for dead.


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Posted By: kavg
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 10:25pm
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Darley point is mute. Yes they breed some stayers but Hawkes left just before or just after Darley bought out Inghams didn't he? Hawkes did Ok with Inghams horses over 2400m plus. Didn't win the MC but went close with Maluckyday. I'm sure I remember him saying that one of his only regrets was not training Octagonal for a MC. He believed he was the right type (and I agree with him) but was over-ruled due to stallion potential/price etc.

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Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 06 Apr 2014 at 11:06pm
Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Australia does not have ANY trainers that excel in the stamina required races.


I know Bart won a few Slippers back in the day but I could have sworn he trained a few stayers too.


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Posted By: VPI
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2014 at 11:29pm
Was $34 for the Royal Sovereign- into $4.4 fixed with tab.

Hedge, trade, whatever.


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Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2014 at 12:13am
Lloyd and co seem to do okay. Hardly surprising that our trainers don't concentrate on stayers given the emphasis on sprinting to middle distances in this country. You only need listen to what trainers of stayers say - it's a whole lot easier to train and place sprinter-milers. Different kettle of fish when you have mega-rich sponsors and owners for whom racing is a mere trifle.


Posted By: VPI
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2014 at 9:30pm
Came back OK, I thought. Wink Group 1 not far away?

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Posted By: shadow role
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2014 at 9:43pm
fantastic win last start!

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Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 12:39am
It and Rich Enuff were enormous.

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Posted By: Lordy
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 7:59am
All the hype about Deep Field winning a mid weeker, I thought Chautauqua was a more impressive performance.


Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 8:02am
The stable state Deep Field is a superior horse than Chaut.


Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 8:40am
Whitto I don't believe that for a minute. John and Michael aren't prone to that sort of rubbish, perhaps Wayne. But I wouldn't believe whoever told you. Anyone can make that gelati up.

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Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 9:06am
^ on yesterday's RSN podcast. 'Wayne' said it was a better horse and hinted by a fair bit


Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 9:09am
It was Wayne.....but it's only DF 3rd run


Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 9:34am
Well there you go. It was Wayne.

He may well be a better horse. But to declare that at this point is fairly laughable.

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Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 9:40am
Not laughable Sunline. But time will tell.

Chautaqua is also top line and the stable is closer to understanding the horses potential than us. And that is not just Wayne.


Posted By: marscay
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 1:08pm
Originally posted by Lordy Lordy wrote:

All the hype about Deep Field winning a mid weeker, I thought Chautauqua was a more impressive performance.


Whatever he is entered in i am on.... against anything.



Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 1:15pm
Chautauqua's a smart horse but was greatly flattered by biased track at Flemington.  Don't get too carried away with him yet.


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by Lordy Lordy wrote:

All the hype about Deep Field winning a mid weeker, I thought Chautauqua was a more impressive performance.


Was undoubtedly impressive, but straight race, was drawn the right part of track, and Dwayne found the right lane.



Posted By: Leebaz
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 1:37pm
Stable comments always have some gelati about them.


Posted By: Lordy
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 1:45pm
Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by Lordy Lordy wrote:

All the hype about Deep Field winning a mid weeker, I thought Chautauqua was a more impressive performance.


Was undoubtedly impressive, but straight race, was drawn the right part of track, and Dwayne found the right lane.


Are you saying those factors make Deep Field's midweek win more impressive?


Posted By: Leebaz
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 2:01pm
Diff horses. Chaut should get a mile. The other one looks a pure sprinter.


Posted By: shadow role
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Chautauqua's a smart horse but was greatly flattered by biased track at Flemington.  Don't get too carried away with him yet.

what bias...that was a smart field...and he killed them.


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Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 4:42pm
Originally posted by Lordy Lordy wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by Lordy Lordy wrote:

All the hype about Deep Field winning a mid weeker, I thought Chautauqua was a more impressive performance.


Was undoubtedly impressive, but straight race, was drawn the right part of track, and Dwayne found the right lane.


Are you saying those factors make Deep Field's midweek win more impressive?


No, but straight track racing is a different beast. I think that run is only relevant to be judged next time he races down the straight.


Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 4:42pm
Originally posted by shadow role shadow role wrote:

Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

Chautauqua's a smart horse but was greatly flattered by biased track at Flemington.  Don't get too carried away with him yet.

what bias...that was a smart field...and he killed them.
 
What Bias?  The bias where all the placegetters came down the outside bias, especially straight races.


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 4:59pm
Go an have a look at the placegetters that day at Flemington down the straight. All horses all day drew outside barriers.
100 percent there was bias that day at Flemington.


Posted By: Lordy
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 5:05pm
Chautauqua beat Temple of Boom comfortably who raced in the same part of the track. He was an in form, G1 winner and proven straight tracker. To me that's far more impressive than a midweek restricted race win.


Posted By: shadow role
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 5:17pm
so he wasn't flattered at all....just an impressive gallop.

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Posted By: Air Seattle
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 5:21pm
He smashed them, bias had nothing to do with the win.  He gave them a short back and sides without even blowing out a candle. Maybe it was the best horses running the placings. I look forward to bookies laying all straight placegetters from that day the next time they step out.


Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 5:22pm
Top horse - but there was bias that day down the middle. Still beat TOB on its own merits


Posted By: marscay
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 5:25pm
Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:



Chautauqua's a smart horse but was greatly flattered by biased track at Flemington.  Don't get too carried away with him yet.


Please tell me you are joking?

Dunn could have kept him on the bridle and still won....big win.


Posted By: Lordy
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 5:39pm
Where does he go next? He should answer most questions then.


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 5:45pm
Epsom, isn't he?


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 5:57pm
No not Epsom. Would tempt most trainers.
I didn't follow off season racing much this year but it shows something that the Hawkes team produced 2 of the only ones to get excited about, kept looking after them and keep looking after them come spring time. Most trainers would get over excited and throw them straight in the deep end.


Posted By: marscay
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 6:05pm
You'd love to have a potential top liner with them because you know they won't stuff it up.


Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 6:08pm
Originally posted by marscay marscay wrote:

Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:



Chautauqua's a smart horse but was greatly flattered by biased track at Flemington.  Don't get too carried away with him yet.


Please tell me you are joking?

Dunn could have kept him on the bridle and still won....big win.
 
He's genuine group quality, and is a progressive type.  He may be up to G1 level in time, but has yet to show it.  Rated the same first up as he did when won Hawkesbury Guineas.


Posted By: Lordy
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 6:08pm
Originally posted by marscay marscay wrote:

You'd love to have a potential top liner with them because you know they won't stuff it up.


J Hawkes is very astute. Knows it's a lot easier to find a horse's level when you bring them through the grades.


Posted By: stayer
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 6:13pm
Yep exactly


Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 6:17pm
Except Maluckyday, was never the same after the Melbourne Cup run, of which John really didn't want to run the horse in.


Posted By: marscay
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 6:19pm
True


Posted By: VPI
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 10:36pm
Originally posted by Lordy Lordy wrote:

All the hype about Deep Field winning a mid weeker, I thought Chautauqua was a more impressive performance.
Without doubt. As to who W Hawkes thinks is better, which one is the stallion?

Just needed to improve mentally, which it looks like he has.


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Posted By: marscay
Date Posted: 26 Sep 2014 at 10:54pm
Encosta's generally get better as 4yo's+ also.


Posted By: VPI
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 4:11am
That's what is known in the business as a 'granny'. So obvious, even your Granny would have seen it.

Hoping he goes Darley Classic, have loaded up multi's.


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Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 7:53am
Still shaking my head that I talked myself out of backing him with the weight turn around.


Posted By: James Bond Esq
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 9:37am
Our best sprinter since Black Caviar.


Posted By: whitt0
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 9:48am
Love ur work JBE. Sets up a good debate. I know u don't really believe that.


Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 9:55am
2 excellent wins up the straight off an unplaced run at Scone. I would wait to see him repeat yesterday around a corner before declaring him

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Posted By: James Bond Esq
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 9:57am
Whitt0, Lol, time will tell. LR had  a great autumn, but doesn't seem to have come back as good. Sprinters tend to go in and out of form. But I was there at Flemington yesterday. I have seen a lot of sprint races over the years and I can safely say:-


Chautauqua's turn of speed was unbelievable.



He is probably best suited to big tracks though.

So whether it could do it at Monnee Valley or Rosehill is debatable.



Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 9:59am
Was outstanding yesterday, can't wait for a clash v buff lankan terravista down the straight at Flemington!


Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 10:02am
Chautauqua 14.23 [11] 10.49 [11] 10.51 [11] 10.54 [ 8] 10.90 [ 2] 11.61 [ 1] 1:08.28

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Posted By: MichaelM
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 10:28am
Would have almost broken 11 in the last furlong too if he wasn't already so far in front.  When people say they think he might struggle around a tight turning track, he was being held by Dunn and cruised up to the leaders so I don't think it is a case of him needing to 'wind up' as such.


Posted By: James Bond Esq
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 10:41am
Yes, but on some courses there is a lot tighter racing than at the Flemington straight.

Will be interesting to see how he goes with two or three horses within a metre of him in the Manikato.


Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 10:47am
If he settles at the tail, as is his usual style, he will cover more ground coming around a field rather than racing a straight line at Flemington

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Posted By: Pardon_My_Dust
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 11:37am
Horse is a freak. Just a freak.


Posted By: marscay
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 11:39am
I hope there are doubters still out there....will just make more money.


Posted By: marscay
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 11:41am
Originally posted by marscay marscay wrote:

Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:



Chautauqua's a smart horse but was greatly flattered by biased track at Flemington.  Don't get too carried away with him yet.


Please tell me you are joking?

Dunn could have kept him on the bridle and still won....big win.


Posted By: James Bond Esq
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 12:42pm
Originally posted by Browndog Browndog wrote:

If he settles at the tail, as is his usual style, he will cover more ground coming around a field rather than racing a straight line at Flemington


Exactly Browndog. He would have to go 5 wide at MV.

They should just leave him racing on the Flemington straight as it suits his style.

Spring

Patinack

Autumn

Lightning
Newmarket

then to Ascot.

Golden Jubilee.

that is program that they should set.


Posted By: James
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 12:48pm
Originally posted by James Bond Esq James Bond Esq wrote:

Originally posted by Browndog Browndog wrote:

If he settles at the tail, as is his usual style, he will cover more ground coming around a field rather than racing a straight line at Flemington


Exactly Browndog. He would have to go 5 wide at MV.

They should just leave him racing on the Flemington straight as it suits his style.

Spring

Patinack

Autumn

Lightning
Newmarket

then to Ascot.

Golden Jubilee.


that is program that they should set.

I don't understand the fascination with Royal Ascot unless you either go for breeding purposes or you are loaded and just want the prestige. There are many, many races in this country that are worth a lot more than the Golden Jubilee and you don't have to travel to the other side of the world.


Posted By: James Bond Esq
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 12:51pm
Simply it is considered the World Championship sprint race.

And it totally suits Chautauqua style of racing.


Posted By: James
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 1:02pm
Originally posted by James Bond Esq James Bond Esq wrote:

Simply it is considered the World Championship sprint race.

And it totally suits Chautauqua style of racing.



Depends if you want some poncy title or dollars in the bank then.


Posted By: James Bond Esq
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 1:13pm
Yep, the Hawkes are pretty conservative but Royal Ascot suits Chautauqua style

And it is horses for courses.

I just think it would be the perfect horse to send.

But I don't own it.

Wayne Hawkes doesn't travel very far.



Posted By: speedingaway
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 1:29pm
Golden Jubilee the world champion sprint? You're kidding haha. The HK Sprint is a much better representation


Posted By: James Bond Esq
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 1:56pm
Maybe, the HK Sprint is high up there. But it is always good to give the Northern Hemishpere a licking on their own ground.

What I am sayin is Chautauqua style suits Royal Ascot.

The prestige of the race would have me taking it if it was my horse.


Posted By: Superb
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 2:16pm
Call me old-fashioned but I'd like to see him do something in a G1 first...


Posted By: SYT
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 2:21pm
Interesting that they may opt to bypass the sprint and run him in Emirates!


Posted By: James
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 2:22pm
Originally posted by Superb Superb wrote:

Call me old-fashioned but I'd like to see him do something in a G1 first...


Call me old fashioned but I would rather see a gelding stay in Australia and win a s##t load of money than go to england just so I could wear a poncy hat and tell everyone how good my horse is if he won.


Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 4:50pm
On my ratings he's the best sprinter in Australia.


Posted By: James Bond Esq
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 5:52pm
Does that make him the Best Sprinter in the World?


Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 5:54pm
Maybe the best since Deep Field or Terravista??

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Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 6:08pm
I wouldn't take a gelding to Ascot unless they seriously upped the prizemoney. Hell, I am doubting the stud value of taking a colt!

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Posted By: Bonfield
Date Posted: 05 Oct 2014 at 6:08pm
We certainly have some exciting progressive sprinters at the moment.  Would be great if they all met.



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