MAGLISSA
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Topic: MAGLISSA
Posted By: Browndog
Subject: MAGLISSA
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2012 at 12:24pm
Originally posted by Quez
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Topic: MAGLISSAReplies:
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2012 at 12:26pm
Posted By: Quezacotl
Date Posted: 22 Nov 2012 at 12:30pm
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Hey cool you found it, but without any of the old posts...? Oh well cool, better than nothing...good win yesterday, traveled so wide most of the race and was a rough ride for the jock, very green and fresh etc.. Has matured nicely and I thought was entitled to fall in a heap yesterday after that torrid run out wide, but kudos to her she stuck on very well. ------------- SPRINTER SACRE - "SIMPLY THE BEST" |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2012 at 5:58pm
| Racing tomorrow at Caulfield Race 5 |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2012 at 6:11pm
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The third horse , won at Warranamboo,l at 1.50 at its next start ------------- The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on.... |
Posted By: Phantom
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2012 at 6:12pm
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The horse that ran 3rd came out and won at its next start. ------------- The More You Put On, The More You Get Back |
Posted By: Nocturnal
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2012 at 6:13pm
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Get your own material Phantom haha ------------- The only problem with backing winners ? You never have enough on.... |
Posted By: Phantom
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2012 at 6:17pm
lol gee great minds think alike..You can type faster than me obviously!!  ------------- The More You Put On, The More You Get Back |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2012 at 6:18pm
| Yes No Smoken won next start and the 6th horse Orasun ran the quinella with No Smoken |
Posted By: marble
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2012 at 8:18pm
| it was a very nice win but griffiths has set it a big task tomorrow. Up to 1400 and is by magnus so has to be a query at the trip second up. If it wins its a very good horse |
Posted By: Phantom
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2012 at 2:03pm
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Well it won after being slow away...It is a good horse! ------------- The More You Put On, The More You Get Back |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2012 at 2:05pm
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$6.50 fixed, I certainly didn't expect that. Track certainly suited, was very impressive nonetheless. Good tipping all!!
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Posted By: norisk
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2012 at 2:09pm
Nice win that, had a share in a Hancox filly eons ago so usually have a fun bet when I notice them going around
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Posted By: Ecair Issoire
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2012 at 2:24pm
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Very nice win (after getting back to last.)
Congrats to connections + those on
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Posted By: Rustybet
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2012 at 2:42pm
| Kudos to Quez....hope you made plenty!! |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 12 Dec 2012 at 4:20pm
Posted By: Toltrice
Date Posted: 14 Dec 2012 at 6:30am
As one of the part-owners of Maglissa, we are thrilled with how she has come on this prep and she is still quite an immature filly, so fingers crossed the best is still to come from this girl. Hancox 5 has now had 2 city winner, after Velonski won at Moonee Valley in March
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 21 Dec 2012 at 4:55pm
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That first race from the Valley should excite connections. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2013 at 6:55pm
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Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 02 Jan 2013 at 6:57pm
| Looks a winnable race, and one she should account for if she is to fulfill the promise she is showing |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 11:36am
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Good luck. Interesting little race. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 11:41am
| The 4 at the bottom of the weights are the pace in the race and all have taken a claim. Hoping this means a good tempo. Don't want to be lugging 60kg and trying to wind up off a flat start |
Posted By: Muppetmaster
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 12:19pm
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This race is terribly handicapped, look at it, it's almost a set weights with penalties, why do they bother.
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Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 1:09pm
Maglissa can overcome weights and measures http://www.racingnetwork.com.au/maglissa-can-overcome-weights-and-measures/tabid/83/newsid/11235/default.aspx#" rel="nofollow - TVNThursday, January 3, 2013 - 1:07 PMFACTS and figures may work against Maglissa in her bid for a hattrick in Saturday’s Thomas North Handicap at Caulfield, but Robbie Griffiths can fault his filly. Griffiths said Maglissa, who overcame a poor start and the pattern of the day to win at Caulfield last month, had been able to answer each new challenge this campaign. Maglissa, with Vlad Duric again in the saddle, must shoulder 60kg in the Thomas North. “Weights and measures are against her on Saturday, but her wins have been fantastic,” Griffiths said. “She really should not have won at Caulfield the way the race panned out. If she can win that type of difficulty in front of her, I would like to think she could take the next step. “Based on the strength of the win and it’s basically the same field even though the weights are against us, I’m optimistic. It’s hard enough to win when everything is right let alone when she misses the start and comes from last.” Evens, which ran third behind Maglissa at Caulfield, franked the form with her last start win at Moonee Valley. Mrs Hadlee, which was swallowed up in the last stride by the powerfully finishing Maglissa, has a 0.5 kg swing on Griffiths filly after the claim for Jake Noonan.
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Posted By: Muppetmaster
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 1:42pm
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Weights and measures against her..? 3 yr old fillies all of them She gives those with chance only half a kilo Those at the bottom are not in the same class so are taking advantage of claiming nubiles. It won't be the weights that get her beat if loses, particularly over 7 furlongs, it will be the tempo and tactcs used in a small field, add whatever bias Caulfield is offering up and it could be quite a tricky affair. She's good enough to overcome all these things, but I would like to see her put away after this for an Autumn freshen and target some early carnival black type ala Moody style, beat up on some unfit WFA horse 's getting ready for the oz cup etc... ------------- civilisation - the social process whereby societies achieve an advanced stage of development and organization |
Posted By: Crash
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 2:37pm
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Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 3:07pm
Well, if Adrian Dunn says it can win, that is good enough for me........
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Browndog wrote:Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 7:00pm
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some of you are such miserable people. do you ever get any joy out of life ? why do you even bother following racing when you are always out to put the clappers on horses and hope ? racing a horse is about fun, and looking forward, not all this misery guts stuff ! be happy for others they have a decent horse fiddlesticks ! stay off the downers for awhile will yous please ? ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: kavg
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 8:09pm
Anyone who bothers looking at weights is a muppet, master. ------------- Prejudice is an emotional attachment to ignorance. DiEM25 for the world. |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 03 Jan 2013 at 9:56pm
Who's putting the horse down?? If that was aimed at me, you completely misread my post. I was simply wondering when supposed investigative journalist Adrian Dunn suddenly became a tipster and form analyst. |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 6:56am
| Adrian Dunn wasn't tipping it He was doing a report on what Robbie Griffiths said about the horses chances. Note all the quotation marks |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 11:35am
no not you ! sorry if you thought it was. just saying , since i need to name, i thought muppet,s comments were just that ! muppets ! ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 11:38am
| Lot of posts were hidden, so a little bit of context might have been lost as well |
Posted By: Puntaz
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 6:31pm
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NELLA FANTASIA looks like leading here EVENS and HAZARD behind neither look like taking on NELLA FANTASIA, MRS HADLEE and MY BARE LADY also 0ff pacers so Interesting what their plans are with MAGLISA drawn second outside plus shes been missing the start lately if again she could be sitting back in a average run pace race unlike last start where they went a better speed up front. She still was last however at the 300m and picked them up |
Posted By: Muppetmaster
Date Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 6:38pm
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None of my comments were negative whatsover. This is a good filly, she might find this race a rather tricky affair though, small fields often throw up rough results. ------------- civilisation - the social process whereby societies achieve an advanced stage of development and organization |
Posted By: Ecair Issoire
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 4:54am
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With the small field + the likelihood of a dawdle to the turn, the up side for Maglissa would be that she'd only be 3 - 4 lengths off the leader up straightening even from last. Obviously harder to run them down off a slow tempo, but (with the finish she showed last start), I reckon she's up to it. Good luck
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 12:26pm
Over raced on a slow pace, to her detriment, I thought
Small fields @ 1400 + 
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Posted By: Puntaz
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 12:46pm
Really think she over-raced, as her past two starts she has raced with the head the same way?
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 12:54pm
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Haven't seen her previous starts but noted she came from near the rear in both, suggesting she'd relaxed better during the run but am happy to be advised otherwise ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Puntaz
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 1:01pm
| she did settle back but had the same head action most of the trip both races with the head up high awkward a bit as i said not really sure myself if she is overracing or not definitely could drop the head bit more but not sure that was her excuse today as her two previous starts she done the same and won. |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2013 at 10:06am
Posted By: Toltrice
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 12:43pm
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I'm one of her owners and flew over for the race on Saturday as I had another horse running as well. She flew the gates and overraced, and to avoid hetting in a fight with her, Vlad said he let her slide forward but she was still a bit keen. The 60kgs also seemed to anchor her down late in the run. He also said that she definitely a get back-and-run-on horse. To me during the prelims she seemed very fresh. She normally jig-jogs around the mounting yard, but she even pig rooted a couple of times on Saturday, and was quite the handful for the clerk being led around to the start. She is still extremely green (hence her head carriage) and is learning how to be a racehorse. I think she is still a prep away from her best. We are certainly keeping our fingers crossed for when it all clicks in her head as we think we may have a pretty nice filly here. |
Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 2:07pm
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Hazard was ridden the way Maglissa should of been ridden, you could see she was gone shortly after they straightened, she has raced green from day one...freshen...gear change !?!? |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 2:42pm
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F/sticks, the point being made is that she was too fresh for the distance she ran over; were it only 1200m, the quicker early pace would've most likely seen her just on the bit instead of pulling hard, enabling her to run on towards the finish. You freshen horses to encourage more speed in their legs. Ideally, for a horse coming off a run such as hers & with an ideal racing distance of 14 - 1600m, you'd look to back up fairly quickly, having taken the edge off, over the same distance, in a big field where the pace is always on early & you can get cover. The tricky part at the present time of year with young horses is keeping them sound given the firmer tracks & the potential for heat stress so it's very much a juggling act particularly when suitable races may not be programmed to suit By no means is this 'advising the trainer of Maglissa' how to train, rather pointing out a few facts involved ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Run For Fun
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 2:42pm
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Don't want to step on Toltrice's toes. However Maglissa's always been a bit of a challenge for the stable, particularly in earlier preps, and a number of initiatives and gear changes have been employed over time to help her learn, settle etc. Sometimes it just takes time and continued effort which the connections are well aware of, and the stable will undoubtedly wait until the penny drops before throwing her in the deep end. Which may not be until next prep, as inferred by Toltrice. ------------- It's hard to soar with eagles... Cheers |
Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 2:42pm
| By what your saying Toltrice. It sounds like she is at the end of her campaign and probably over the top on the day. Hope she is in the paddock now if that's the case. Good luck with her. She is a goodun as they say! And deserves to be looked after. |
Posted By: Mental
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 3:41pm
| Looks a borderline midweek winter prospect at best. |
Posted By: Run For Fun
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 3:49pm
And you fella, judging by your posts, are clearly a chro-magnon at best.  ------------- It's hard to soar with eagles... Cheers |
Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 3:51pm
| Shadow role might help get her head down... |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 3:52pm
I'm starting to look forward to your predictably moronic & gloomy posts Mental, you clearly don't waste money on 'uppers'  ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 5:14pm
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------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 5:15pm
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crap ! done it again ! waited 2 mins for it to post and it comes up blank ! ! anyway, thanks for the laugh Gay. ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: There off!
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 5:34pm
It would take more than uppers to help fix him up.
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Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 5:42pm
As someone that has had shares in 3 horses, of which only 1 raced for an unplaced effort, I would kill for a midweek winter prospect!!
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Posted By: Muppetmaster
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 6:03pm
Any links ??? ------------- civilisation - the social process whereby societies achieve an advanced stage of development and organization |
Posted By: Toltrice
Date Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 9:09pm
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No offence taken RFF - I'm aware she has been a challenge for the stable. Horses are individuals - some just take longer to learn than others. Owing racehorses teaches you patience ;)
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Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2013 at 10:07am
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Posted By: marble
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2013 at 11:08am
| I don't know why you would run her over a mile with a kid on board when she pulled like a dentist over 1400 with a senior rider. I hope I'm wrong and the connections here get a win but good luck trying to get her to settle . |
Posted By: Passing Through
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2013 at 12:21pm
| She doesn't look like a boys horse, still learing what it's all about. Needs strong senior riders |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2013 at 12:32pm
Yeah, especially as Vlad did such a good job last start  Weirs', Hayes' &/or possibly Sadlers' (up from 1200m) could well go forward to set a reasonable pace in which case, with the edge off her from last week, she may well settle. Alternatively if it's playing to leaders (pattern should be established by then) & no one wants the front, she could take up the running uncontested with the rest expecting her to stop. The kid goes well on front runners too ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2013 at 12:54pm
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Put a girl on and I bet she settles better, add a shadow roll, (small low one) and she'll be curling the neck like a stayer... Gay the point about a " freshen " is not always about getting ping into their legs, it can be used creatively to take the horse away from the racetrack environment for 6 weeks to 2 months to just continue to establish education and increase base level core fitness, it's not about ping in their legs when they are lightly raced 3 yr olds. ------------- Panspermia. |
Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2013 at 1:01pm
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Snowden = one of the best trainers at educating 3 yr olds via freshen & change of scenery, probably learnt it from Hawkes, but nevertheless, the old take em away from racing for 6 weeks, send them over the border, tinker with gear if needed, bang... ------------- Panspermia. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2013 at 1:20pm
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Now, reread my post slowly F/sticks then ask yourself where you found the word 'freshen' ".............with the edge off her from last week, she may well settle." Meaning some of the ping should be out of her legs & hopefully, brain, in which case she should relax at least to a degree. Imo, most a the time a freshen enables a soundness issue to be sorted hence the reason they very often improve. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 2:05pm
| By what the part owner said of her antics at her last start, they were indicitive of a filly needing a break. Fighting the rider, too keen on the bridle etc. After watching today I am sure of it. Nedded tipping out after the last run! |
Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 2:05pm
| Needed that is! |
Posted By: lulu
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 2:07pm
| She has gone from extremely promising to disappointing in two runs. It's often a timing issue with these young fillies. Most go to the well once too often. You should never go twice though. |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 4:20pm
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Race 5 – SPORTINGBET HANDICAP - 1600 metres: La Pepper was slow to begin and then had to be checked off the heels of Maglissa after being taken in by Danzoo which jumped away awkwardly and shifted in. Near the 1100m First Bloom shifted in and inconvenienced Danzoo. Maglissa and Silver Trinket both got their heads up when over-racing in the early and middle stages. Rounding the home turn First Bloom, which was laying out, had to be steadied across the heels of Maglissa. Apprentice D Thornton (Maglissa) said that his mount over-raced and when put under pressure near the 500m the filly failed to respond to his riding. A subsequent veterinary examination of Maglissa revealed the filly to be showing signs of minor heat stress. |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 8:50pm
| Going for a spell, I believe |
Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 9:16pm
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If she likes a soft track you might have some fun with her over winter in Melbourne... Nose roll & 6-8 week Freshen is what I'd do, but what do I know... ------------- Panspermia. |
Posted By: princerubiton
Date Posted: 15 May 2013 at 7:24pm
| Opened up a big price this week. Never backed her before, but followed the thread over the journey and am backing her at the $26 and 8.50 the place. Good luck to the owners this week. |
Posted By: Run For Fun
Date Posted: 15 May 2013 at 7:51pm
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Trialled very ordinary at Cranbourne and some including a member here were apparently less than impressed. However proof of the pudding... ------------- It's hard to soar with eagles... Cheers |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 15 May 2013 at 7:59pm
| I thought her trial was as expected. She didn't over race with the ear muffs on, and wasn't asked to fire up. |
Posted By: princerubiton
Date Posted: 15 May 2013 at 8:04pm
| I like the profile of the mile back to the straight 6. Different tempo. Only need a small wager at that price to get a result. |
Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 15 May 2013 at 8:09pm
Yes she did exactly what Robbie Griffiths had hoped she would. Ear muffs have settled her down and she was never asked for an effort. Both in the trial and jumpout. ------------- I started with nothing and still have most of it left |
Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 15 May 2013 at 8:25pm
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I have been doing some reading on the Magnus progeny and wet tracks...had a good look at Usurpers pedigree today and decided he was going to enjoy the slow 6 and backed him off this...he improved sharply second up nearly taking out the event at 25-1 paying $8.20 the place... The point is I think Magnus offspring are geniune soft trackers...comes in off Magnus dams side...all quality and mudders there yo. ------------- Panspermia. |
Posted By: princerubiton
Date Posted: 18 May 2013 at 1:19pm
| very frustrating horse this one. Looks to have heaps of ability but quirky. Showed no speed back to last then spots them way to much of a start, eased to the outside, held up and then flys at the end when it's all over. |
Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 18 May 2013 at 1:23pm
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She ran as she was expected to. Happy enough with the effort here, onward and upward. Ear muffs doing the job nicely. ------------- I started with nothing and still have most of it left |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 18 May 2013 at 1:27pm
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She ran exactly as I thought she would, having heard the trainer i/viewed this morning. He's aiming her for races over more ground & as result needs her to settle better than last prep, so I'm sure connections would be delighted with the run, if not anyone who backed herbut they were warned. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2013 at 2:50pm
| Any word on this horse? Running at Bairnsdale in the last. Would brain these at best. |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2013 at 2:52pm
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Won a jumpout after running third under restraint in an official trial. Risk is the track and wide barrier forcing her to settle back on a track that doesn't usually suit swoopers Is going very well though
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Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2013 at 3:19pm
Super run & ride 
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Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2013 at 3:22pm
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Thanks for info BD. Love the one bet, one win day. She really wanted to be there today, ears pricked big time. Matthew Allen is a really underrated jockey. Always have confidence with the Allen/Griffiths combo. |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2013 at 3:36pm
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No probs Subby Was a nice win on an unfavorable track for her
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Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2013 at 3:42pm
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Didn't get all fizzed up today so her class told in the end, just.
Last prep should be forgotten, if she continues to race kindly. Bloody scratching destroyed the 10s from yesterday. But still good.
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Posted By: Fiddlesticks
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2013 at 7:43pm
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Whats all this about then... ------------- Panspermia. |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2013 at 1:21pm
Here she is: |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2013 at 1:24pm
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In her Catwoman gear
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Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2013 at 3:16pm
And here she is in street clothes: |
Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2013 at 6:04pm
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well done Maglissa, and congrats BD.
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Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2013 at 6:13pm
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Thank You AA There are a few of us here
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Posted By: acacia alba
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2013 at 6:21pm
and Fiddler didnt know ! thats a kooooooo,, , coup,,, whatever,, ( cant spell it ).winners are grinners !!! ------------- animals before people. |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 18 Dec 2013 at 6:23pm
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Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2014 at 10:56am
| Track definitely suiting Maglissa today at Caulfield. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2014 at 11:00am
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Good luck Browndog
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Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2014 at 11:06am
| Hope the horse is ok. Not sure what Bossy was doing going forward early, but something wrong with her. |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2014 at 11:07am
Would have if she hadn't begun so well & raced hard on the bit; they can't do it both ends over 1400m  Was still entitled to finish closer so have to agree with your previous post. Would be interesting to know Bossys' opinion......he'll no doubt have one ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: scamanda
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2014 at 11:23am
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All those months spent to make her relax and settle in her races and Boss pushes forward from an outside gate with a fast tempo. Some jockeys just know more than the trainers.
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Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2014 at 11:27am
| I wouldn't put Bossy on a horse of mine unless it was a staying race. he is clearly a better jockey the longer the distances are. |
Posted By: kingoath
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2014 at 11:43am
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I wonder what the trainer's instructions were to Bossy, and more importantly, if he followed them. ------------- Kingoath's Stable - Zadon, Spalato, Able Friend, Signoff |
Posted By: Browndog
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2014 at 11:47am
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The instructions are always the same, ride her cold
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