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Topic: King's Rose
Posted By: Mayor
Subject: King's Rose
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2012 at 10:51pm
News just circulating... King’s Rose to campaign with Black Caviar in England. Queen Anne Stakes before a mating with Galileo.


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Mayor



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Posted By: ianb
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 7:27am
gee Mayor they could have picked a better stallion than Galileo

Acclamation or Sea The Stars as an unproven horse would be better than a horse who generally gets plodders in our conditions


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 8:13am
Can they take her pony friend also or is that why they are taking King's Rose.



Posted By: andynr123
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 8:22am
I find that fascinating Mayor! Should put something in the Racing Forum too!

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Posted By: magic_idol
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 9:40am
Must agreeWink Would be a very high chance to breed a Dour Horse.......C'mon Rose'y prove me wrong!!!!!....LOL

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Happy Fit Horses Win Races :-)


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 9:50am


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reductio ad absurdum


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 9:50am
SATONO ARTHUR (JPN)Brown colt 2014 
Deep Impact
Bay 2002
Sunday Silence
Brown 1986
Halo
Bay or brown 1969
Hail to Reason
Brown 1958
Turn-To
Nothirdchance
1951
1948
1-w
4-n
Cosmah
Bay 1953
Cosmic Bomb
Almahmoud
1944
1947
14-f
2-d
Wishing Well
Bay 1975
Understanding
Chestnut 1963
Promised Land
Pretty Ways
1954
1953
14-b
1-g
Mountain Flower
Bay 1964
Montparnasse
Edelweiss
1956
1959
19>
3-e
Wind in Her Hair
Bay 1991
Alzao
Bay 1980
Lyphard
Bay 1969
Northern Dancer
Goofed
1961
1960
2-d
17-b
Lady Rebecca
Bay 1971
Sir Ivor
Pocahontas
1965
1955
8-g
9-h
Burghclere
Bay 1977
Busted
Bay 1963
Crepello
Sans le Sou
1954
1957
16-d
2-s
Highclere
Bay 1971
Queen's Hussar
Highlight
1960
1958
19-c
2-f
King's Rose
Bay 2007
Redoute's Choice
Bay 1996
Danehill
Bay 1986
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Razyana
Bay 1981
His Majesty
Spring Adieu
1968
1974
4-d
2-d
Shantha's Choice
Bay 1992
Canny Lad
Brown 1987
Bletchingly
Jesmond Lass
1970
1975
7-a
14>
Dancing Show
Bay 1983
Nijinsky
Show Lady
1967
1976
8-f
8-f
Nureyev's Girl
Bay 2000
Nureyev
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Special
Bay 1969
Forli
Thong
1963
1964
3-b
5-h
Lakab
Chestnut 1990
Manila
Bay 1983
Lyphard
Dona Ysidra
1969
1975
17-b
16-g
River Lullaby
Chestnut 1983
Riverman
Aladancer
1969
1968
10-a
4-m
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 5m,4m Lyphard4m x 5m


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Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2017 at 2:09pm
Must be a fairly good horse Djebel three starts 2 wins and 2nd in a G3.  That's a great head shot.


Posted By: Breeder
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2017 at 7:36pm
I've just watched an Australian produced doco on NZ TV about the Japanese breeding and racing industry. It showed Kings Rose at stud. The doco is well worth watching if it hasn't already been shown in Aussie --really interesting and very well produced 


Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2017 at 9:20am
Was on on Monday Breeder.  Very interesting.  Those snow covered paddocks looked so cold!


Posted By: Breeder
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2017 at 11:00am
Furious
I was really impressed with how the Japanese in their breeding, training and racing administration (esp integrity issues) have got on and done their own thing in their own way. As a result they have many aspects of their industry which are well ahead of other jurisdictions.

I did not realise Japanese were such big punters.( the figures on the Prix d'larc de Triomphe made me "smile")

BTW. While I'm no "expert" on horse conformation etc. but it was interesting watching Maurice walking towards the camera. It seemed to me he really "dished" out his right fore leg --if seen in a yearling I think most would pass him by. I'm not sure if I am correct with the observation so I'd be interested in what others see. 



Posted By: furious
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2017 at 11:23am
Also I was impressed with the size of Sunday Silence and his hind leg action.  Real swing to it massive stride - or so it appeared.  We've had plenty of Champions who weren't correct and really can't judge it well myself and the pedigree is my speciality in this industry.  But yes very forward thinking and massive spenders on a world wide scale.  It's worked they have some of the best but really it just shows how hard New Zealand and Australian breeders have worked over the years as they have worked with the unraced, brother, uncle, lower class gallopers.  No wonder the Brit's consider us second class.

They just don't see the improvement Australian and New Zealand conditions can bring to a pedigree.  Our sun (although Queensland won't see much this week) and open lifestyle and your paddocks of green.  Planing on visiting the studs later this year so will love to see them all.

I can't imagine what an Australia breed mare would think of in her first winter in Japan!


Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2018 at 7:15pm


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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2018 at 9:53pm


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Posted By: robbo
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2018 at 2:03pm
I see King's Rose's full-brother Hardham is a supplementary entry for the Great Southern sale as a stallion prospect. He would have to be half a chance of being commercial, wouldn't he? It's a deep family, Satono Arthur is keeping it on the map in a global context and he is a Group 2 winning, Group 1 placed racehorse who was half a length off Russian Revolution ($55,000) at set weights over 1200m. Where would he fit in the pecking order?



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