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CIARON MAHER
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Topic: CIARON MAHER
Posted By: Vain
Subject: CIARON MAHER
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2011 at 12:22pm
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I note that Ciaron Maher was fined $10,000 for giving false evidence re the circumstances of the late scratching of Bruno at Casterton recently. What wasn't reported however is what was the real reason for its late scratching. Does anybody know? ------------- Keep them honest |
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Posted By: Ted
Date Posted: 25 Jun 2011 at 12:36pm
| Looks like he just made a late decision to run the horse the next day at Ararat, maybe he'd heard McLoaded was out |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2015 at 3:14pm
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Just how good is this guy??? Young horses, old horses, sprinters, jumpers, he does the lot. Where do you guys rate him as far as Vic trainers go? |
Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2015 at 3:15pm
| He just keeps improving. Will be the No.1 City trainer within 2 years |
Posted By: doubledown
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2015 at 3:38pm
Was gonna make a seperate thread last week but I got too drunk  maybe tonight. |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2015 at 3:45pm
| And he does it again..... |
Posted By: Newtown Old Boy
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 8:21am
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Couldn't find an existing thread but thought he may deserve one. Come a long way since Tears I Cry. Going gang busters at the moment and Petits Filous seems to be something special. One criticism though - get a haircut son. In the dropdown change from Message Body to Topic Title  |
Posted By: doubledown
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 8:52am
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Not many can match him for versatility. He wins with 2yo's and with 12yo's. Wins over 1000m and 5500m. Wins 0-58's and G1's... |
Posted By: Sunline
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 9:59am
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Excellent, excellent trainer. ------------- Sunline...simply supreme |
Posted By: Gee Gee
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 10:04am
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he's on a roll at the moment. I hope he grows one of those hipster newtown beards! |
Posted By: brave_ponies
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 10:08am
This, and great hair!
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Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 6:09pm
| How many trainers have won the Guineas Prelude and a Coleraine Cup in the same weekend? |
Posted By: Bi Carb
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 8:47pm
| They used to say the same about Moods once |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 8:58pm
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Outstanding trainer by Australian standards. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: goldey
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 9:01pm
| Had a chat with him here in Cairns and must say he is quite unaffected by his success . |
Posted By: Gee Gee
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 10:22pm
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agree goldy. laid back fella, loves a drink 
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Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 10:38pm
You had a bad weekend mate? Particularly narky today.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 10:46pm
I doubt I am anymore narky than usual. I am not a fan of the Australian way of training or campaigning quality racehorses. I am absolutely certain that they butcher good quality middle distant and staying types. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: WarriSymbol
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 11:23pm
As you seem to know something they all don't, when are you taking out your trainers licence? |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 27 Sep 2015 at 11:35pm
Really ? What sort of debating point it that ? Clearly you do not watch the sport. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Shawy38
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2015 at 12:59pm
Weld’s Manalapan joins Maher stablehttps://www.racing.com/trainers/dermot-k-weld-ire" rel="nofollow - Dermot Weld’s lightly-raced Irish stayer https://www.racing.com/horses/manalapan-ire" rel="nofollow - Manalapan is set to join the https://www.racing.com/trainers/ciaron-maher" rel="nofollow - Ciaron Maher stable for an Australian campaign. The six-year-old has form around the likes of https://www.racing.com/horses/pale-mimosa-ire" rel="nofollow - Pale Mimosa and https://www.racing.com/horses/mutual-regard-ire" rel="nofollow - Mutual Regard and could target races like the Moonee Valley Cup and Geelong Cup. “He does have the ability, I think he’s had a few issues ... so he’s a little bit behind in his preparation,” Maher told Racing.com’s Racing Ahead. “Hopefully he can find a bit of form when he’s fit. “I’m really looking forward to getting him in the stables. “Providing he travels well ... we’ll probably nominate him for the Moonee Valley Cup and have a look at that, or maybe the Geelong Cup.” Manalapan, who has three wins and five placings from 18 starts, has been given 50kg for the http://www.racing.com/form/2015-11-03/flemington/race/7" rel="nofollow - Melbourne Cup . “There’s a fair bit of water to go under the bridge (before thinking about a Melbourne Cup start),” Maher said. “He’d have to get in and he’d have to be in winning form and probably a realistic chance but all that considered, we’d look at it.” |
Posted By: Gay3
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2015 at 1:18pm
Gilcrist and her Girl tackle Future Stars
This weekend is shaping as a big one for Bianca Gilcrist. On Saturday, she’ll be trackside at Caulfield to watch VRC Oaks winner Set Square, a mare trained my her partner Ciaron Maher, tackle the $3 million Group 1 BMW Caulfield Cup (2400m). Less than 24 hours later, she’ll saddle up a former Maher-trained mare, Euphrates Girl, in the 1.10m and 1.20m classes at the Port Phillip Show Jumping Club’s Future Stars Show. While Euphrates Girl may not have possessed Set Square’s talent on the racetrack, Gilchrist fell in love with the daughter of Fraar during her short racing career and has been thrilled with her progression in the show jumping arena. “She was bred by Lindsay Park and we bought her from them as an unraced three-year-old because she was a half-sister to July, a good jumper we used to have,” Gilcrist said. “On the first day she entered the stables I said to Ciaron that I loved her and I wanted to take her when she finished racing, thinking that she’d have a long career, as July did. “I think Michelle Payne rode her in one of her two starts on the track she had and she got off her and said that she was possibly the slowest horse she’d ever sat on but that she was cute.” After being retired from racing as a three-year-old filly in 2008, Gilcrist quickly transitioned Euphrates Girl into a second career as a show jumper and tasted immediate success. However racing commitments would soon take over, restricting the amount of time Gilcrist could put into working her team of show jumpers, and she made the tough decision to sell the mare, now known in her second career as April. But in a fortunate twist of fate, the mare was again offered for sale earlier this year, at a time when Gilcrist was slowly making a return to show jumping. “She finished racing for us as a three-year-old and she went to Jumping with the Stars the next year and placed third as a four-year-old,” Gilcrist said. “We got really busy with the racehorses and I stopped competing so I decided to sell her about two years ago. “It broke my heart to do it but I wasn’t competing on her so I sold her to a young rider. “She came back up for sale when I was in Queensland this year with Srikandi and I rang Ciaron and he told me that if I really loved her I should buy her back which I did.” Euphrates Girl’s story is not unique to Maher and Gilcrist; the pair have been instrumental in finding suitable homes for many retired racehorses over the past decade. Gilchrist believes their success in doing so can be attributed to the early grounding each horse receives prior to entering Maher’s stable, an education regimen very much focussed on flat work that teaches horses to best utilise their amazing physiology. “All our pre-training is done on an arena and from day one horses learn the basics of dressage,” she said. “They learn how to bend, flex and use their muscles correctly in the arena before they get to the track. “The girls that work for us at the farm are either event riders or show riders as opposed to specific track riders and I think this helps. “By the end of their racing career with us, our horses are pretty well educated and they could almost go out and do a dressage test the day after they retire. “We do sell a lot of horses on through contacts that either myself or the girls working for us have in the equestrian industry.” The Future Stars Show is one of the three Port Phillip Show Jumping Club events over the coming months at which Racing Victoria will offer an award, consisting of $100 cash prize and an embroidered Off the Track trophy rug, to the best performed retired racehorse. Off the Track thoroughbreds will accumulate points based on their performances at each event – the Future Stars Show this weekend, the Agricultural Show in January and the Championship Show in March – with an award to be presented to the best performed retired racehorse overall. ------------- Wisdom has been chasing me but I've always outrun it! |
Posted By: SkyDancer
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 2:28pm
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https://www.racing.com/trainers/ciaron-maher" rel="nofollow - - Robert Smerdon’s the stewards had to come and approve the stables and when I came to https://www.racing.com/trainers/rick-hore-lacy" rel="nofollow - |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:18pm
| Was a truly disgraceful piece of gutter jernalism from Patrick Bartley today. Tabloid style, creating a story where there wasn't one. |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:21pm
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This is the Bartley article Racing Victoria stewards inspected the Caulfield stables of Ciaron Maher after reports that suspended trainer Peter Moody had been in the trainer's area at trackwork and present at his former stables. Maher has taken over part of Moody's stables when the Black Caviar trainer retired after being suspended for six months, with another six months suspended, for cobalt doping of horse Lidari. But RVL had been contacted by some trainers claiming that he had been attending trackwork and purchasing yearlings. Racing Victoria's Integrity Department said two stewards attended Maher's Caulfield stables and held a thorough examination of the barns and also monitored the feeding arrangements in place for the horses. Last month, all of the stables, tack rooms and adjoining rooms were inspected with investigators confirming that the stables had changed in appearance since Moody vacated the stables and retired from racing. On that day of the inspection, Sarah Moody, wife of Peter, tweeted: "Stewards probed maher stables this morning looking for clues PGM still training there, not everyone lies & deceives, so pleased to be out!". Stewards then held interviews, firstly with stable staff of Maher's and then questioned at length employees who were formerly part of Moody's business. Wade Hadley, one of the investigators, said the feeding arrangements and the look of the Maher stable were different. Stewards then interviewed Maher who gave an assurance that he was the designated trainer and not Moody. Some of the horses in Maher's new stable are part-owned by Moody's wife Sarah, who is a registered thoroughbred owner. Registered owners are bound by the rules of racing and in this context Sarah Moody has been summoned by stewards to attend an inquiry into social media posts which might be perceived prejudicial to the image of racing. Sarah Moody's tweets were aimed at Terry Bailey and made reference to Melbourne's gangland underbelly. Moody, who Fairfax Media believes is not a registered owner, has become a paid ambassador for a corporate bookmaker. Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/racing-victoria-stewards-raid-maher-stables-20160517-gox91t#ixzz48yhBiZ6U" rel="nofollow - http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/racing-victoria-stewards-raid-maher-stables-20160517-gox91t#ixzz48yhBiZ6U Follow us: http://ec.tynt.com/b/rw?id=aBfWCmwwCr37XTadbiUzgI&u=smh" rel="nofollow - - sydneymorningherald on Facebook |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:22pm
Was it really that bad ? I read it and found nothing particularly offensive. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:24pm
| It wasn't newsworthy in the slightest. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:26pm
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Why is it not news worthy that Victorian Stewards were investigating the possibility that Peter Moody was training some of Mahers horses ? I find that absolutely news worthy. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:26pm
| And to use the headline Stewards raid Maher stables was pathetic. The Age is basically finished as a paper. This country is deplorable for newspapers. The Australian and the Newscorpse are abysmal and the Age seems hellbent on following them. Take me back to the UK!!! Amazing papers there. |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:28pm
It is only newsworthy if he was there. Until then, its scuttlebutt. They created a story based on zero fact. That's gossip, not news.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:46pm
No the story is that The Stewards were investigating the situation. It was absolutely news worthy. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:48pm
| No, it isn't. |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:49pm
| You must read The Daily Terrorgraph in Sydney? |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:49pm
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Yes it is. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:50pm
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I like Maher but if you lay down with dogs....... ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:50pm
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Why ? They would not write anything newsworthy. This is absolutely newsworthy. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:50pm
I like Peter Moody. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:52pm
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That is not to call Moods a dog in anyway as that would be way too harsh. But by Maher taking over these stables with some of the Moody's horses amongst them he is going to continue to cop heat from racing Vic. I wonder if it is worth the trouble. ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:52pm
Ridiculous comment
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Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:54pm
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probably read the one below it. I am not Moody's biggest fan, I do think he got caught out cheating. I do not think he is a dog however. ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 4:57pm
| So every trainer that took horses off Moody is what? |
Posted By: Delta Deel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 5:06pm
I only have heard gossip and innuendo sub, so to escape the wrath of your scrutiny I will not be going down any path with what I have heard. But I have been told there is more to this story by folks that have connections with some of the horses involved. ------------- https://group1selections.wordpress.com/ |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 5:07pm
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Why, when we want to be derogatory towards somebody do we call them a dog as if dogs are somehow bad ? Call him a moron or something but not a dog. Dogs deserve better. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Straight Connector
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 5:07pm
While the papers here are awful, to suggest that they are any better in the UK is way off the mark. They wrote the script and our papers followed. Won't even mention the low rags names... |
Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 5:16pm
| God there's some bullgelati around racing and on forums. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 5:28pm
So, Does that mean you thought the story was a non event ? ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 5:39pm
| It means Bartley was obviously struggling for something to write about, and more, djebel. If reporting on routine RV work is the best he has, Fairfax might as well show him the door. The rest I'll leave to you to work out. |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 5:40pm
You have options in the UK. We have nothing like The Independent, Guardian (only online here), Telegraph etc to go with Murdoch crap and pompous Times etc.
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Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 5:45pm
You ever thought of a journo contract with Fairfax? Patrick Bartley needs an apprentice.
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Posted By: AndiCap
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 5:47pm
| - - - said Foreskin Fred |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 5:49pm
The only people who would think this is a non story are those who are Peter Moody apologists or are so anti Patrick Bartley they let it cloud their judgement. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Straight Connector
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 5:51pm
Yeah but we also have nothing like the S*n, the News of the World, Daily Mail etc Just a disgusting stream of gelatie daily. |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 5:54pm
Rubbish. Where is the proof Moody has been at the stables? Bartley has none. Maher has come out and said why the stewards were coming and it wasn't to check on Moody. So where is the story?
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Posted By: 3blindmice
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 6:05pm
I'm neither djebel so your conclusion falls at the first hurdle. If Bartley's brief from Fairfax is padded waffle then he's doing his job. The capacity for invention around racing circles and even moreso on forums is apparently limitless.
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 6:07pm
He was simply reporting that Stewards were out their looking into the allegation. He is not the one making the accusation he is the one reporting it. Moody's reaction on twitter tells us that Bartleys mail, that he must have got from RV, was probably on the money. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 6:08pm
| Have you even read Skydancers post linking the article on the last page? I really don't think you have. |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 6:09pm
Oh stop talking your condescending gelati. You are one or the other. It was absolutely newsworthy. Not earth shattering ground breaking information but it was newsworthy. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 6:12pm
Why did they need satisfaction Peter Moody was not the trainer if there was no suspicion he might have been ? ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 6:20pm
What part of normal licensing procedure are you struggling with?
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 6:23pm
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I suspect it is no more than the company line. At the end of the day - It was Newsworthy. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Magnolian Khan
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 6:25pm
| Wow this escalated quickly. |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 6:27pm
Some days you seem perfectly normal. Others........
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Posted By: djebel
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 6:34pm
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I am going to get the last word in. ------------- reductio ad absurdum |
Posted By: Second Chance
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 6:36pm
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Sitting on this barstool talking like a damn fool Got the twelve o'clock news blues And I've given up hope on the afternoon soaps And a bottle of cold brew Is it any wonder I'm not crazy? Is it any wonder I'm sane at all Well I'm so tired of losing- I got nothing to do and all day to do it I go out cruisin' but I've no place to go and all night to get there Is it any wonder I'm not a criminal? Is it any wonder I'm not in jail? Is it any wonder I've got Well, I'm a jet fuel genius - I can solve the world's problems Without even trying I have dozens of friends and the fun never ends That is, as long as I'm buying Is it any wonder I'm not the president (He's not the president) Is it any wonder I'm null and void? Is it any wonder I've got Too much time on my hands, it's ticking away at my sanity I've got too much time on my hands, it's hard to believe such a calamity I've got too much time on my hands and it's ticking away from me Too much time on my hands, too much time on my hands Too much time on my hands |
Posted By: subastral
Date Posted: 18 May 2016 at 6:41pm
| Won $250 on the punt today, did my paperwork, sold 10 tours and argued with Djebel. Easy to do more than one thing SC...... |
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