Plein Ciel

And the run of Yogi , wow

Rumour is that he will now by-pass Caulfield Listed race on 1st Sept. and a bit of travel are on the cards.

A freshen up to target the 1500m Group 3 Cameron Hcp at Newcastle on 14th Sept.(May still be a little short ????)

The intention being that if he wins that race he would be exempt from the ballot for the Gp 1 Epsom 1600m, where he would receive around 50 - 51kg. Interesting plan if they keep to it.

I understand that the decision was not made by Weiry but by a major owner.

Personally, I think it's a big call.

He could've raced last Saturday in the listed Heatherly over 1700m, which was incidentally won by Call Me Handsome who came 5th to Plein Ciel at their last starts.

Prizemoney sacrificed there me thinks.

The Epsom is aiming very very high, I reckon. It's one of the hardest mile races in Australia to win but the only way he can make it into the field is to win a ballot exempt race, which brings the Group 3 Cameron into the equation at Newcastle where the major owners are from.

To come back to 1500m (Cameron) is not an easy task, hence him missing the Heatherly to be freshened up for it.

Still, he needs to go up 2-grade levels for the Cameron, go the reverse way of going, endure a very long float trip and come back in distance to win. Not to mention draw a good marble and have a good decent run and hope it's a dry track.

The Epsom - no horse has ever won the Cameron and gone on to win the Epsom.

Hope he does well though. What a task.

Lovett said the jury was still out about another of the team's imports Plein Ciel after he ran second last in the Newcastle Cup last Friday.

"It's back to the drawing board with him now," Lovett lamented. "He went to pieces in the parade. They had trouble saddling him and they couldn't get him onto the track so I knew we were in a bit of trouble but I didn't think he'd run that bad.

"He appears to come in it OK and he was heavily supported but it wasn't to be."

Actually ran 4th last but never the less was a poor run , however first poor run Ever for him . I got great odds early , however when I saw the horse playing up more than usual , bolting on the way to the barrier and then covered in sweat from tip to tail I knew I'd done my dough before the race was even run . May he didn't like the trip away , maybe he didn't travel Sydney way of going , maybe he resented the jock , maybe he didn't enjoy being 3 wide the trip and widest in the home straight . Or maybe he just had a bad day .
Or the knockers might say maybe he's no good even after winning 6 and placing 4 from 11
He'll be better odds next start so I'll be on .

I heard that he didn't make the trip home with the rest of the Weir runners. Interesting! Hope he's ok.

<span style="line-height: 16.8px;">Not sure where he goes to from here. Listed Country Cups?</span>

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Interesting . Are they hoping they'll fall away and he'll sneak into the Epsom ??

I believe he has been staying with Big Duke, who also stayed in NSW after his last run.

Shawy38 wrote:

Nominated for Paris Lane 1400 on Sat

Looks a winnable race on his best for . Aloud a first up didn't fire last prep . Tulip is an interesting runner very classy good win last start . Other than that I think he's one of the better horses . Back to 1400m ? Hmmm interesting

Germanmachine wrote:

1400m Tooo short

Winner over 1300 , winner over 1400m and place 3rd twice over 1400m including leaving on a unsuitable heavy track with a ride that could have been better .

Long long straight at Flemington.

On his best form he's a winning chance

Aust Bloodstock are mates with Avdulla. Weir doesn’t have a choice. He slaughtered Big Duke in the Metropolitan as well.

Let's be fair dinkum, Avdulla is a class or 3 above Allen as a jockey.

It is about time Weir segregated his trackwork riders from his jockeys.

reductio ad absurdum

Avdulla is a Victrorian.

reductio ad absurdum

Black Prince 2 wrote:

Germanmachine wrote:

1400m Tooo short

Winner over 1300 , winner over 1400m and place 3rd twice over 1400m including leaving on a unsuitable heavy track with a ride that could have been better .

Long long straight at Flemington.

On his best form he's a winning chance

I wouldn't say 1400m is too short for him to win, but I think he's better 1600m+, especially after a few runs.

I would rather top class jockeys rather than good track workers.

reductio ad absurdum

Gay3 wrote:

djebel wrote:

Avdulla is a Victorian.

So is Prebble but as neither have ridden regularly in Vic. for many years, I don't consider they have the insight needed into current riders & track idiosyncrasies.

I agree