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Originally posted by Magnolian Khan Magnolian Khan wrote:

Won a trial this morning at Camperdown
FWIW 2nd place BHB and 3rd Gallic Chieftain

Races May 4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_WVplNoHd0&feature=youtu.be


Looks an absolute power house , wow .
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He's in a 1400 at Warrnambool on Thursday
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Originally posted by Magnolian Khan Magnolian Khan wrote:

He's in a 1400 at Warrnambool on Thursday


Cheers MK . Be interesting to see how far he gets this prep, that is in distance and class.
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I have had a decent size bet at $2.4 on Plein Ciel today.

Granted Moss 'n' Dale is a mudlark who is fit and in form, but I have Plein Ciel a class above and he can win this fresh like he did first up last prep despite blowing a gale.

$2.3 is still around. I feel he SPs closer to evens.
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Why so wide?   

Six wide the trip is not a good way to be riding this horse
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Originally posted by Magnolian Khan Magnolian Khan wrote:

Why so wide?   

Six wide the trip is not a good way to be riding this horse


Ride him too arrogant , too far back , too wide was still closing in on them at the finish, if he came up the inside and reached the winner he probably wins
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Agreed - could have poked along at the back rather than swinging so deep.
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Who is Pla ciel?
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Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

Who is Pla ciel?

Isn't the n silent?
Proud owner of many horses, both thoroughbreds and standardbreds. Love my racing
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No, it gets lost but if you're trying to use the French it ain't Plaa
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Shocking ride. He couldn't have rode it any better if he was trying to get it beat. No urgency to tack on, lost touch at least twice, then with acres of space on the rail and through the middle he pushes very deep and gave away at least 5 lengths to the winner.

Diabolical.
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best horse won on the day - thanks for the 3.50 it was very nice on the day
Keep serving up the overs please
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Reckon both you and Sunline might both be just a tad biased.  Wink


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Originally posted by Manny G Manny G wrote:

best horse won on the day - thanks for the 3.50 it was very nice on the day


This horse got beat though
Pilote D'essai
Meow Meow Meow
Keeps winning though
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nothing beats self interest - proper form students backed Moss N Dale into fav so there was a reason ! The best horse won on the day and he was the favourite so everyone's happy
Keep serving up the overs please
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Agree, there are no hard luck stories in a 6 horse race.
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Don't agree with the proper form students bit though Manny, that is crap.
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The best horse won?

Or the best horse on that day?
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This is the Plein Ciel thread,can we discuss the actual horse and not someone elses horse Cheers

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Originally posted by Sir Gov Sir Gov wrote:

The best horse won?

Or the best horse on that day?


The Best Horse and Jockey combo Won 'on the day' Sir Gov.

I Layed off onto Plein Ciel cos I wasn't as confident as Bro so we came
out square.

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Moss n dale, third up , rock hard fit , known heavy tracker , fav in market , ridden a treat didn't cover any ground was clear of trouble , found right part of track . City winner. Wins

Plein Ciel first up, didn't look rock hard fit, although looked fitter than first up last time, untried on heavy track, gives leader 7 lengths and is two lengths off second last horse in running, Covers extra ground, fans 15 wide after having a muddling run, storms home for a fast finishing 1.5 length 3rd . class horse , bigger fish to fry over further distance.

That's racing

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adeb ba da deba thats all folks!
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Aure

Is Moss n Dale the better horse? I think that is what Manny was saying?

Or did Plien Ciel just race lengths below its best

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Originally posted by Sir Gov Sir Gov wrote:

Aure

Is Moss n Dale the better horse? I think that is what Manny was saying?

Or did Plien Ciel just race lengths below its best



I read he expressed it as the best horse "on the day" meaning he was primed for the win and all stars aligned . Can I add 13 starts for 7 wins that's pretty damn good. MND has as many wins as PC has had races. I sill think PC has a lot more improvement to come though. As far as the better horse, only time will tell
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MND also won in Sydney - much tougher than those in Melb.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Magnolian Khan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 May 2017 at 11:06pm
Why are we discussing Moss and Dale on this thread. Start a Moss and Dale thread if you want to waffle on about him
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I got your question to him and it was relevant and I think you know the answer.

Of course Moss 'n' Dale is not a better horse.

The smart money I think was for Plein Ciel it was a dog of a ride, reminded me of Billy Idol on Veandercross.

I did say that there are no excuses in a 6 horse race and it is a throw away line that is kind of true.

Plein Ciel could be a very good horse, I liked the fact he was sweating profusely down his neck, white lather which spells the end for most horses however he flew home.

There are bigger and better things in store for him who knows he might even sneak into a Caulfield Cup field one day.
Manny used self interest as the evil of all mankind yet then proceeded to make comments full of his own self interest.

Winners are grinners and the rest can please themselves is a well known saying however I think it is a weak outlook.


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Aurelius perfectly said .
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Plein Ciel was given a perfectly good ride.  Had every possible chance.  Plein Ciel ran well.  It is just that Moss 'N' Dale ran better
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