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He still looked pretty green to me as he was playing up in the yard and weir said that he was relaxed at home but always played up at the trials and races . Makes it hard looking at that when you're having a punt . Still he's won every race in oz so far and that's no easy feat . Not many horses string a lot wins together every fortnight . Movie brained them last time at the valley but she was no match for him . I rekon he'll
Probably run well next 2 starts (78-84 class) and then after that he'll really be tested . But he's still only a 3 and a half in real time being northern hemisphere . Just a class above , inter sting to see where his ceiling is .
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Anyone game enough to predict how high he can go? Does he have group one potential?

Still hasn't beaten much. But doing it easily. Always difficult to know exactly how good they are in that type of situation.
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Originally posted by Donald Hiltonson Donald Hiltonson wrote:

Anyone game enough to predict how high he can go? Does he have group one potential?

Still hasn't beaten much. But doing it easily. Always difficult to know exactly how good they are in that type of situation.

More often than not they don't measure up but it can be very difficult to get a handle on how good they are this time of the year. Personally I think he could measure up to Listed or G3 level but needs to improve a few lengths to be G1 but that was only his fifth start so he could easily do that.
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Raw Impulse anyone?
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by Donald Hiltonson Donald Hiltonson wrote:

Anyone game enough to predict how high he can go? Does he have group one potential?

Still hasn't beaten much. But doing it easily. Always difficult to know exactly how good they are in that type of situation.


More often than not they don't measure up but it can be very difficult to get a handle on how good they are this time of the year. Personally I think he could measure up to Listed or G3 level but needs to improve a few lengths to be G1 but that was only his fifth start so he could easily do that.


Pretty good assessment. I'd have to add though if a horse has ability , which this bloke has , they also need a ton of luck and they're a chance in any race . Look at the maiden Famous Shamous, never one s race until he wins the Cox plate . He's no pie eater could win any black type then won 2 group 1s they only black type he ever won . Tears I cry won a group 1 with outed winning any other group races and so on and so on .
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Not sure how to edit my spelling but it should have read couldn't win any black type until he won 2 group 1s , and a few other misspellings there' but I think you got the jist
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Originally posted by Magnolian Khan Magnolian Khan wrote:

Raw Impulse anyone?

Won a listed first prep . Remember weir on the radio after his first couple of runs saying how immature the horse was and he was 12 months away . Some great wins and some ordinary runs , that's racing , they can't all be Winx hahaha
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84 rater and lots of prize money to be won through the grades
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steps up in grade again this weekend, nice race to see where he is at.

Race 7 - 4:00PM Swettenham Stud Summer Championships Heat 7 (1800 METRES) Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting

Of $80,000.1st $44,000, 2nd $14,400, 3rd $7,200, 4th $4,000, 5th $2,400, 6th $1,600, 7th $1,600, 8th $1,600, 9th $1,600, 10th $1,600
BenchMark 84, Handicap, Minimum Weight 54kg, Apprentices can claim.

Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4

Field Limit: 16 + 4 EM

No Last 10 Horse Trainer Jockey Barrier Weight Penalty Hcp Rating
1 093316x977 DOCTOR CARE (NZ) Darren Weir Jordan Childs (a1.5) 6 61kg
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2 1213x92265 COOL CHAP Lee & Anthony Freedman Beau Mertens (a2) 7 59.5kg
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3 57321x0843 KHUTULUN Luke Oliver
12 58kg
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4 98431313x0 HURSLEY (NZ) Chris Waller Craig Williams 10 57kg
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5 22x111 PLEIN CIEL (GER) Darren Weir Ben Allen (a2) 1 57kg
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6 410x122611 REWARDING EFFORT Cindy Alderson Mark Zahra 8 57kg
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7 04x5555x02 BONDEIGER Darren Weir Damian Lane 4 56.5kg
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8 57x8938046 SCELTO (NZ) Robbie Laing Jake Bayliss (a2) 5 56kg
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9 26x9540x00 POST D’FRANCE (NZ) Stephen Brown Jye McNeil 3 55.5kg
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10 x186379x18 MANHATTAN BOSS Peter Morgan Regan Bayliss (a0) 2 54kg
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11 6381440x73 HOUDINI THE GREAT Leon & Troy Corstens Ben E Thompson (a2) 11 54kg
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12 100615x8x4 MANAPINE Nigel Blackiston Dwayne Dunn 9 54kg
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Will be hard to beat again but won't be jumping in at the shorts this time. Rewarding Effort genuine danger.
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PC is awfully short in the market.

I'll be having something on Hursley each way at 30/1 in this race. Loves Caulfield and up to his right distance. 
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Yeah I agree, too short to put $$ on, but I still think he'll win.
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wins in a canter IMO
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Shocking ride but wins anyway
Went way way too early imo
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May have had to push out and go when he did or get boxed in possibly behind a leader coming back on top of him
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Ridden as best as he could do, it was either get going now or be stuck in traffic.

Might be looking at a trip to Tassie for the Cups now apparently.
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Great win, 4 in a row , maiden to 84 rater not easy to do, thanks for the $$$$$
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Off enjoying a well earned spell.
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A nice break, winter In Brisbane, idea Caulfield Cup horse IMO.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

A nice break, winter In Brisbane, idea Caulfield Cup horse IMO.


That's a good move . He's got a great chance to jag a stakes race there . Hope to get some good odds
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That's about right mate and with a big chance to pass all ballot clauses, worry free from then on and you can plan with NO restrictions, this is a nice horse and it's all in front of him IMO.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

That's about right mate and with a big chance to pass all ballot clauses, worry free from then on and you can plan with NO restrictions, this is a nice horse and it's all in front of him IMO.


Couldn't agree more . He looks a cracking Entire and IMO untapped ability . All he
Needs is a bit of luck (like they all do ) in a big race and he'll jag it . Anyway , it's all about the odds for me lol or Multis . I saw that with sportsbet he was $81 for the Melbourne cup and now $41????? Surely he wouldn't race in the cup this year , could he? Strange thing he's not in the Caulfield cup betting markets , or any other market for that matter . Anyway best of luck to connections
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Entry closure for the CC a long way off I would imagine, he will be entered for sure, GL with your Multies.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Entry closure for the CC a long way off I would imagine, he will be entered for sure, GL with your Multies.


Valid point . Thanks , and I'm sure that PC will be delicious odds AND he's still really only a 3 yo ( northern hemisphere ) 12-18 months who knows what could eventuate . Cheers
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Won a trial this morning at Camperdown
FWIW 2nd place BHB and 3rd Gallic Chieftain

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Originally posted by Magnolian Khan Magnolian Khan wrote:

Won a trial this morning at Camperdown
FWIW 2nd place BHB and 3rd Gallic Chieftain

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_WVplNoHd0&feature=youtu.be


BHB has obviously changed colour and markings while he has had his little let up.......
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Well that's what I was told. I'm not that attentive
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haha he ain't BHB. 2nd horse honest 74 rater, couple of midweek and Saturday city placings
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