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    Posted: 17 Nov 2016 at 1:08pm
I know it's only a maiden at Warrnambool, but far out that was some win
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Was a good win. He was side by the side with the other favorite out the back and left it paddling a long way from home. I would love to see if he was as dynamic when ridden closer to the speed.
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Weir horses can defy the drift, eh.
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The drift suggests the horse presented as nowhere near ready in the yard. To arrive like that, go back as far as it did, round them up and win as it did, augurs well for the future considering it has raced well over 1600m and 2000m in Germany - today was only 1300m.

By Mamool - if memory serves me correctly, he was a Melbourne Cup favourite for Godolphin one year and did nada.
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Sire of Lucas Cranach as well.
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Yes that was a really nice win , seems they have a bit of an opinion of him. Early days yet but gee, was very impressive.
http://www.standard.net.au/story/4300276/weir-runners-shine-at-meeting-in-the-bool/
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Running today @ Hillside R5

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Pretty talented beast. Saturday race next time.
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Christmas Eve @ Sandown

Race 5 - BM78 Handicap (1600 METRES) Of $60,000. 1st $33,000, 2nd $10,800, 3rd $5,400, 4th $3,000, 5th $1,800, 6th $1,200, 7th $1,200, 8th $1,200, 9th $1,200, 10th $1,200
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Even though they probably bought him as a potential stayer, I think it would be fun to keep him at 7 furlongs, and see how he progresses.

A couple of G1s in February.  
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Originally posted by Geraldo Geraldo wrote:

Even though they probably bought him as a potential stayer, I think it would be fun to keep him at 7 furlongs, and see how he progresses.

A couple of G1s in February.  


I watched with interest on Wednesday , I didn't think he could win the way they where racing , and then he was posted 3 wide the whole way, all be it with "cover" , when he got to the bend I thought "he'll gas now", but sweet Jesus he hit the go button and accelerated for an authoritative win.

Seeing his runs in Germany where over 1600-2000 m there is no doubt he was bought as a stayer, however he did finish 2nd in each one of those races. Is 1400-1600 more of his go?

Either way he is an excellent style of horse and very entertaining. Swooping horses are always exciting to watch.
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Originally posted by Geraldo Geraldo wrote:

Even though they probably bought him as a potential stayer, I think it would be fun to keep him at 7 furlongs, and see how he progresses.

A couple of G1s in February.  


Ben Allen said he wanted to get trucking early but the cover helped so I doubt they'd step up 'till he's learned to drop the bit & relax. Remember he's only 3 1/2yo in actual terms.
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Has potential but I wouldn't get carried away with Sandown form.
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lol.....Yeah bit to do from Midweek grade for sure.

Good luck and health to the horse
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Very true a lot of water to go under the bridge yet , but he's heading in the right direction .
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A mate of mine brought a share and they said to him its a 1400-1800m horse when he was brought. Agree promising but long way to go - beaten nothing although looked big in the mounting yard
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I think your mate going to have a lot of fun . Sorry but I think this Colt is a cracker and judging by his splits in every race start , he is above average irregardless of opposition
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DKW likes him, which is a good start. Do we know when he will run next?
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Very true MK and he's not the only one . Taken from anzbloodstocknews

"After his impressive win in a Warrnambool Maiden (1300m) on 17 November, Plein Ciel followed that with an even more impressive win in the Benchmark 64 (1400m) at the Sandown Hillside track on Wednesday.
After racing back in sixth place, Plein Ciel came with a wide run before racing away to score brilliantly, looking suited to much longer distances than 1400 metres.
Visually he was impressive, his times even more so, with Plein Ciel returning 200 metre sections (from the 1000m) of 11.09, 10.78 (400m in 21.87), 11.57 (600m in 33.44) 10.81 (800m in 44.25) with his last 200 metres in 11.46 for a brilliant nal 1000 metre time of 55.71.
Plein Ciel looks a classy horse with Group potential"

He's a rating 70 now so I would think a 1400-1600 m City Saturdsy race in the next couple of weeks ?
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Bet of the Christmas period
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The next Raw Impulse?

If so - should win this by 2 lengths in a BM70
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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Bet of the Christmas period

Agree. I managed to get on at the $3.60. But expect deductions with Rewarding Effort probably coming out.
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Just had a look at the Sandown result and and both the 3yo fillies and maiden ran faster time over the same distance. Fillies were almost 6 lengths faster according to R&S. Not suggesting he's not a promising type but the hype in that article is overblown. Sandown is a track which provides incredible extremes of margins and times. By the by r.com has him running 54.91 for the last kilometre.
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Fair point.
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$3.60!!!!! I checked last night and it's already $2.60 . Be a test for him though 1600m step up in class doubt he'll be able to sit 3 wide again for the 3 Rd time and win . Having said that Sportsbet power play deserves a nice little bet haha
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I well and truely missed the price of this boy but thought Weirs other runner in r5 bet of the weekend
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3 wins from 3 starts by another 3 1/4 lengths . This horse has got talent . Couldn't take the short odds but had the double with stable mate big Duke paid $6.14 awsome .
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Originally posted by Black Prince 2 Black Prince 2 wrote:

3 wins from 3 starts by another 3 1/4 lengths . This horse has got talent . Couldn't take the short odds but had the double with stable mate big Duke paid $6.14 awsome .

I had it on top as well but also couldn't take it at the price. Liked the way it was able to sit up outside the lead and put them away. Not a lot of depth in the race but visually impressive.
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