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Congrats warri, very nice horse.
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Congrats Wirri,nice win!
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yeah! lovely win with Redangelo yesterday!!
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bit long in the rear pasterns!
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Dipbacked.
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looks back at the knee and hocks camped out. Looks a little roach backed also
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The back at the knee is a killer plus looks badly down on his bumpers . The clincher though is the poor winter coat (a bit of a dog really ) .
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straight back. 
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A short description as to whether the above horse was any good & if so, over what distance would be handy Wink. Many of us won't go to the trouble of googling.
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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

A short description as to whether the above horse was any good & if so, over what distance would be handy Wink. Many of us won't go to the trouble of googling.

He will win the Japanese Derby on Sunday and be in the market for the Arc latter in the year.

He is what a classic horse should look like.




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I hope you haven't wrecked the thread

But I would say a good performer over distances above 1600m

Its just subjective looking at a pic but he's a leggy lighter type what a see as miler and above.


Actually looks very much like my lion heart I sold, who's the second top rated Australian bred horse in the world class Korean racing lol

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Originally posted by bradjm bradjm wrote:

I hope you haven't wrecked the thread



What do you mean ?


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This what I consider a miler looks like - 

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Nice and long - my preferred type of stock. Just not as popular in the yearling sales ring. 
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Lovely example of a miler.   The top horse looks a lean staying type!
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Lovely shoulder on that horse... good depth of girth. Wanting some more strength behind IMHO and neck. Nice animal and looks v athletic. 

If the horse got his chance he would find more fault with me then i did with him!! Lol
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Bay horse at top of thread doesnt look as balanced or as well put together as one below... front, middle and rear not connected (could be 3 different horses). Plain head etc Just a horse IMHO...

... this is where i will come unstuck and you tell me hes a champion lol
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Originally posted by runnerdance runnerdance wrote:

Bay horse at top of thread doesnt look as balanced or as well put together as one below... front, middle and rear not connected (could be 3 different horses). Plain head etc Just a horse IMHO...

... this is where i will come unstuck and you tell me hes a champion lol


LOL

He does look to be the new champion of Japan Duremante. Beer


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I'm with runnerdance on Duremante, even though this is obviously a talented horse, it isn't something I would be jumping at.  I love his front end but not so much the back end.  Maybe this is where I am going wrong and why my strike rate is so poor.  The miler I do like the look of.  Who is the miler by the way?
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Originally posted by rem286 rem286 wrote:

I'm with runnerdance on Duremante, even though this is obviously a talented horse, it isn't something I would be jumping at.  I love his front end but not so much the back end.  Maybe this is where I am going wrong and why my strike rate is so poor.  The miler I do like the look of.  Who is the miler by the way?

The "miler" is Real Steel by Deep Impact he has had 4 runs, 3 over 1800m and 1 over 2000m.

I suspect he will eventually revert to a mile and be quite good. Actually his is quite good at the moment having run 2nd to Duremante in the Japanese 2000 Guineas over 2000m.

I suspect he will run in the Derby this Sunday, but than so did their champion sprinter of a couple of years ago Lord Kanaloa. 

 


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Originally posted by rem286 rem286 wrote:

I'm with runnerdance on Duremante, even though this is obviously a talented horse, it isn't something I would be jumping at.  I love his front end but not so much the back end.  Maybe this is where I am going wrong and why my strike rate is so poor.  The miler I do like the look of.  Who is the miler by the way?



Leaner rear end is a staying trait, the power from a big muscled bum is valuable in sprints but consumes more energy over distance.
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At the risk of being a liar again, Lord Kanaloa did not run in the Japanese Derby. My mistake.


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Originally posted by bradjm bradjm wrote:

Originally posted by rem286 rem286 wrote:

I'm with runnerdance on Duremante, even though this is obviously a talented horse, it isn't something I would be jumping at.  I love his front end but not so much the back end.  Maybe this is where I am going wrong and why my strike rate is so poor.  The miler I do like the look of.  Who is the miler by the way?



Leaner rear end is a staying trait, the power from a big muscled bum is valuable in sprints but consumes more energy over distance.


Saintly had a pretty good rear end, But I suspect he was not really a stayer he simply out classed them.

I do agree with that comment though as a general rule. Thumbs Up


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Most of the horses I pick tend to be the sprinting types.  I would like to be able to pick out a good middle distance horse though.
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Still maintain 2nd horse a far better 'animal' IMHO - the top bay might be a champion but he's plain in the looks department. I don't see his appeal at all but I haven't bought a Japanese Derby winner b4 either.
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First think that stands out for me in the staying type from Japan is the very low knee and short cannon bones. I am very big on the "long levers" on a horse, I don't like the shallow chest cavity and how the horse falls away behind the saddle. not one that would jump out at me in the paddock but wouldn't put a line through before I had seen the pedigree page either.

Cant fault the second horse, maybe a fraction short in the rein but that could be exaggerated by the length and excellent confirmation of the chassis.
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