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    Posted: 01 Jul 2016 at 3:56pm
Some win at HKJC. Horses don't win like that very much anymore.
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Unleashed like a good horse but no idea what he is doing..... crazy stuff.
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Thanks PT, ..looked impressive.
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I missed getting on by 1 sec. Still on me knees... #raceclosed
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Was it a tip? ..or did you see it's last trial.?
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No fluke that 1st win. Would love to see his sectionals from the 400-200m he made up about 8L. Off the bit until the 1000m mark and wins pulling up
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Incredible run.

Put him into all my epl & nfl bets.
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Won't be able to do that in better races (or will he??) but wow, this horse can get home hard...
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Originally posted by doubledown doubledown wrote:

Won't be able to do that in better races (or will he??) but wow, this horse can get home hard...

I'd imagine as he rises in grade he will also be rising on distance. He should be able to keep doing it if he stays sound of limb and mind.

Although he seems as kooky as Gold Ship. 


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What is his stable name; Imran
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Must have been a fast run race as the finish looked like browns cows behind him.
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As a punter, you have to take him on every start. $1.25 horses that miss the start by 5 lengths and have to circle the field cant keep winning......can they???
I backed Zac yesterday in the last. Best losing ride I have seen!
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What was that? Can't keep winning if it does that against good horses
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

As a punter, you have to take him on every start. $1.25 horses that miss the start by 5 lengths and have to circle the field cant keep winning......can they???
I backed Zac yesterday in the last. Best losing ride I have seen!


They offered up $1.85 y'day. Interesting to see if that sprint is less powerful out to 2000m.
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2nd fastest horse over 1400m in a few years.

He's a beauty this one.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

As a punter, you have to take him on every start. $1.25 horses that miss the start by 5 lengths and have to circle the field cant keep winning......can they???
I backed Zac yesterday in the last. Best losing ride I have seen!


Apparently punters took on Black Caviar 25 times in a row. Sometimes as punters you have to accept that a horse is simply too talented to lose consistently.
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Originally posted by JimmyUK JimmyUK wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

As a punter, you have to take him on every start. $1.25 horses that miss the start by 5 lengths and have to circle the field cant keep winning......can they???
I backed Zac yesterday in the last. Best losing ride I have seen!


Apparently punters took on Black Caviar 25 times in a row. Sometimes as punters you have to accept that a horse is simply too talented to lose consistently.


Slightly different racing styles there Jimmy....
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I took the $1.85 yesterday felt like having a bet last night and remembered his debut. Thought he would be closer even if he was slow out due to less speed at the 1400m and it was just a C3. Heart in mouth stuff though
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I wouldn't take it so literally Subestral.

Punters always look for faults. Appreciate he's a good horse.

A few people on YouTube saying nasty things like they wished he changed his name from Pakistan. Either Indian supporters or islamaphobes.
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I can appreciate he looks an exceptional horse. He just isnt bomb proof. BC was.
I will love watching him race. I will just bet around him.
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Is he faster than Chautauqua?
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Originally posted by JimmyUK JimmyUK wrote:

Is he faster than Chautauqua?

He will never run in Chautauqua type races. He probably has as fast a finishing burst but requires or will require further to produce it.




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Does he need further? Something about him to me says 1400-1600 is his distance and 2000 will nullify the sprint. Time will tell I suppose.
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Does he need further? Something about him to me says 1400-1600 is his distance and 2000 will nullify the sprint. Time will tell I suppose.


The way he was off the bit for 800m of a 1400m race tells me he wants further!! Def bred to get over ground.
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Is he off the bit because he wants further, or because he gives up 5 lengths at the start? I am not convinced yet that he wants 2000. He races in blinkers and still cant keep up early. if they take them off over further, I think theres potential he misses the start by more.
He looks exciting, but for me, the hype is way over the top.
 
I was sold very early on BC, she was bomb-proof. This guy, no way in the world. Matt Stewart today called her the most exciting horse in the world.....please....a  class 3 win makes you one to follow, but let's see some more starts first....
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Everyone loves a swooper. If it had led and won that race by 4 nobody would bat an eyelid.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:


Is he off the bit because he wants further, or because he gives up 5 lengths at the start? I am not convinced yet that he wants 2000. He races in blinkers and still cant keep up early. if they take them off over further, I think theres potential he misses the start by more.
He looks exciting, but for me, the hype is way over the top.
 
I was sold very early on BC, she was bomb-proof. This guy, no way in the world. Matt Stewart today called her the most exciting horse in the world.....please....a  class 3 win makes you one to follow, but let's see some more starts first....


Running sectionals to tell us he is one of the most exciting horses going around. Unheard of sectionals for most horses.
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No doubt, but do sectionals necessarily tell you a horse is looking for further?
 
 
I have loved his starts, don't get me wrong, but I just think there are days ahead where you simply cant pass every runner down the straight, especially in HK.
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