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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Oh dear. Saint Manny is such a poor loser his mob is now going to protest the win.
Go away , slip into retirement you poor looser


Protest already dismissed. pac once blamed holes in his socks for a defeat. true story.
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America's biggest promoter wants Horn .
He has had is eye on him for some time and attended his 2nd last contest.
Horne will be on a plane to the USA within days.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

I thought Pac said he respected the decision, on the day.

He was groggy.Ouch
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Whale, that article you posted isn't worth the paper it's written on. It is anyone's guess how much $ he has left, but fighting for $10m when he's banked $650m suggests to me he's short on benjamins.
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Originally posted by Flamethrower Flamethrower wrote:

Whale, that article you posted isn't worth the paper it's written on. It is anyone's guess how much $ he has left, but fighting for $10m when he's banked $650m suggests to me he's short on benjamins.

I can't see how Pac's career earnings can be anywhere near $650m. He doesn't get huge endorsement money and his purse payouts add up to a long way from $650m. And there would be a lot of bites out of every purse.

Here is a list, up to the Mayweather fight. Has he had any monster payouts since then?




PACQUIAO FIGHT BY FIGHT PURSE PAYOUT DETAILS
DATEOPPONENTPURSE
March 2005Erik Morales$1.75 million
August 2006Oscar Larios$1 million
November 2006Erik Morales$3.2 million
April 2007Jorge Solis$1.6 million
October 2007Marcos Barrera$2.5 million
March 2008Juan Manuel Marquez$4.5 million
June 2008David Diaz$3.1 million
December 2008Oscar De La Hoya$11m guaranteed + $4 million PPV bonus
May 2009Ricky Hatton$12 million guaranteed + PPV bonus
November 2009Miguel Cotto$22 million guaranteed + PPV bonus
March 2010Josua Clottey$17 million+ guaranteed 
November 2010Antonio Margarito$15 million, guaranteed plus a share of the PPV sales
May 2011Shane Mosley$20 million guaranteed plus share of PPV sales 
November 2011Juan Manuel Marquez$22 million guaranteed plus PPV share
June 2012Timothy Bradley$26 million guaranteed plus PPV share
December 2012Juan Manuel Marquez$26 million guaranteed plus PPV share 
November 2013Marcos Rios$18 million guaranteed plus PPV share
April 2014Timothy Bradley$20 million guaranteed
November 2014Chris Algerie$25 million guaranteed
May 2015Mayweather Jr$60 million guaranteed



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Marcos rios? brandon....
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Originally posted by Flamethrower Flamethrower wrote:

Whale, that article you posted isn't worth the paper it's written on. It is anyone's guess how much $ he has left, but fighting for $10m when he's banked $650m suggests to me he's short on benjamins.


a number of sites suggest he is worth about $200 million.  Wht wouldn't he fight for $10 milliom, thought it would be easy pocket money ?
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Tlazolteotl & Whale, $650mAUD estimates (approx $500mUSD)

Tlazotletol, those numbers don't factor in upside from PPV and gate receipts which is substantial and in some cases more than the guaranteed fight purse as Pac has fought in Texas and in the big money fight with Money May in Vegas.

Fighting for $10m AUD with virtually no upside from PPV as the fight was only aired in Australia on PPV and FTA elsewhere seems like chump change when you've banked 65 times that amount over your career.

He did say after fighting Tim Bradley he was retired. They the money runs out. Then he comes back and announces retirement.

Pac isn't very liquid by the looks of things. I wouldn't fret as with more time in Phils politics followed by inevitable presidency, he'll have his snout in the trough and bounce back big time.
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An entourage of around 200 following Pacman in his travels does not sound cheap.
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He'd have more hangers on than a Times Square Christmas tree. In fact they cost him $4 mill just for seats at the Mayweather fight, let alone flights and accommodation.
The guys bank account must work like a sieve.
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What R'ZOLES this Manny Camp.
   They've pushed so hard the WBO are virtually duty bound to investigate the scoring of the fight.    They can't change the decision but I expect they have a good name to uphold.
Horn won the fight.   ask Johnny Lewis , Geoff Fenneck , Danny Green .
More than Half the USA promoters.
The 3 judges have all officiated at over 100 bouts each.
      The Filipino may get a cold shoulder if & when he comes back.
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He's fine, everyone loves The Pacman!Heart

It's just politics macca ... Heard that as soon as he is ready, he will be parachuted into a safe seat, and he is the Philippines' President in waiting ... hasn't copped enough blows to the head to qualify to lead an Australian political party yet.Dead
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

He's fine, everyone loves The Pacman!Heart

It's just politics macca ... Heard that as soon as he is ready, he will be parachuted into a safe seat, and he is the Philippines' President in waiting ... hasn't copped enough blows to the head to qualify to lead an Australian political party yet.Dead


I like that analysis Dr E .

We are really struggling in the Political arena.

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The boxing scoring system seems crazy to me. There is no way to differentiate between a very very narrow margin of superiority in a round-10-9, a huge margin of superiority in a round- 10-9, and an absolute flogging with one man staggering around the ring in a daze and torrents of undefended punches- 10-9 ... unless there are knockdowns.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

The boxing scoring system seems crazy to me. There is no way to differentiate between a very very narrow margin of superiority in a round-10-9, a huge margin of superiority in a round- 10-9, and an absolute flogging with one man staggering around the ring in a daze and torrents of undefended punches- 10-9 ... unless there are knockdowns.
Very true that. If 2 blokes have a blue in a pub the fellow that gets knocked around the most is considered the loser. In that fight the another night Horn went the closest to being knocked out/ hurt/ staggering/ whatever....yet did not win. Just sayin !
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

The boxing scoring system seems crazy to me. There is no way to differentiate between a very very narrow margin of superiority in a round-10-9, a huge margin of superiority in a round- 10-9, and an absolute flogging with one man staggering around the ring in a daze and torrents of undefended punches- 10-9 ... unless there are knockdowns.


On rare occasions judges will give a 10-8 for a very lop sided round , as Johnny Lewis did for round 9 in the fight on Sunday.
However Lewis had a 4 point margin for Horn at the finish.
( Google john Lewis on the fight ) Respected man who trained Fenech & Costa Tsu
The top USA promoter hasn't invited Horn to the Sports awards on Tuesday if he thought he lost.
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Team Pac has to keep a level of indignation going, to accord with the domestic fans, to whom crying foul is an automatic reaction to a defeat.
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Get over it Pacman, you lost !

This is getting farcical now. Retire gracefully, accept you lost and transition into Phils politics.
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Originally posted by Flamethrower Flamethrower wrote:

Get over it Pacman, you lost !

This is getting farcical now. Retire gracefully, accept you lost and transition into Phils politics.


NO ONE has the power to overturn that decision unless fraudulent activity is proven.   That's not even suggested so why are the Manny camp wasting their time.
They did the same over the Bradley and Mayweather decisions against Manny.     In the years earlier.
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Its all hot air to build the rematch. they start early.

wbo and their 5 judge review panel will likely score it for horn. if they end up scoring a majority for pac...even though the wbo have said they wont overturn the result, watch team pac threaten legal action to have the fight deemed a no contest. anything that doesnt make pac a "loser".

dean lonergans comments about teddy, espn and asking dutton not allow him entry to oz is LOL. lonergan is blowing hot air to sell the rematch too.
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If Pac fights Horn again, they better have the ambulance on standby as Pac will be rendered unconcious. With 6 more months on the biological clock, Pac is only going to be slower and without footwork the guy is a sitting duck. Horn will maul him again but this time round Horn will be fitter and fight at a smarter pace. If he doesn't knock him out then Pac is in for another 12 rounds of hell.
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MANNY PACQUIAO & camp .    EAT yourr F"ing hearts out.

   The WBO boxing investigation by 5 separate independent Judges Results :-

   ALL FIVE said Horn won the fight by winning at least 7 rounds .

So if a few were equal it was an easy win.
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According to ABC news, of the five review judges, 3 scored it to Horn, one had it drawn, the other had Pac winning. Conclusive enough.
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

According to ABC news, of the five review judges, 3 scored it to Horn, one had it drawn, the other had Pac winning. Conclusive enough.


according to 2 GB radio I think I heard all 5 agreed he won ... But it isn't important .      It was close and tough and the record book tells the story.
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That would make six out of 8 scoring it to Horn, only one to Pac. Whale will be upset !
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

That would make six out of 8 scoring it to Horn, only one to Pac. Whale will be upset !


Whale lol ...   He wakes every morning with more brain cells lost Than Horn did last Monday.

He has been quiet of late.      His lonely hearts add for an old floozie may have worked so we will have to wait till the "Furry noose"
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

That would make six out of 8 scoring it to Horn, only one to Pac. Whale will be upset !


Whale lol ...   He wakes every morning with more brain cells lost Than Horn did last Monday.

He has been quiet of late.      His lonely hearts add for an old floozie may have worked so we will have to wait till the "Furry noose"
hangs him.


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You wish Whale .
The 22 would be inches round her ankle.

But take note of a wise old man.

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Everyone is the same size in bed, macca. Human torsos are much the same length, it is the arms and leg lengths that vary considerably. Otherwise you might wonder when a 7' basketballer marries a 5' woman, who put them up to it ?
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Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

Everyone is the same size in bed, macca. Human torsos are much the same length, it is the arms and leg lengths that vary considerably. Otherwise you might wonder when a 7' basketballer marries a 5' woman, who put them up to it ?


    That's one to ponder on .

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