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OJ Simpson granted parole for Las Vegas robberyO.J. Simpson has been granted parole after nine years in prison for a Las Vegas robbery, a group of four Nevada commissioners decided today. The imprisoned former NFL player could be released as early as Oct. 1.

After learning he would be released, Simpson, 70, was emotional, showing visible relief. As he left the hearing room and went back inside the prison, Simpson could be heard saying, “Oh! God! Oh!”

Simpson delivered a rambling account of the case to the parole board earlier today, maintaining that he didn’t intend to steal but “wish this would have never happened.”

Simpson was at times jovial and combative with the members of the parole board, expressing his remorse and saying he's humbled by his incarceration. Simpson was sentenced to prison following an arrest in 2007 during a botched robbery in Las Vegas, when he led a group of men into a hotel and casino to steal sports memorabilia at gunpoint. He contended the memorabilia and other personal items belonged to him.

Simpson told the parole board today, "I take full responsibility."

PHOTO: Former NFL football star O.J. Simpson enters for his parole hearing at the Lovelock Correctional Center in Lovelock, Nev., on July 20, 2017.Jason Bean/The Reno Gazette-Journal via AP
Former NFL football star O.J. Simpson enters for his parole hearing at the Lovelock Correctional Center in Lovelock, Nev., on July 20, 2017.more +

Simpson's account of the botched robbery

Simpson appeared remotely via video conference from Lovelock Correctional Facility in Nevada, where he's serving time for kidnapping and armed robbery. Simpson began by explaining what he said led to crime, telling the board how he learned that some "some guys" were trying to "fence" what he said were his personal mementos in Las Vegas.

PHOTO: O.J. Simpson reacts after he was mistakenly asked by a parole official if he had recently turned 90 during his parole hearing at the Lovelock Correctional Center in Lovelock, Nevada, July 20, 2017.Lovelock Correctional Center
O.J. Simpson reacts after he was mistakenly asked by a parole official if he had recently turned 90 during his parole hearing at the Lovelock Correctional Center in Lovelock, Nevada, July 20, 2017.more +

"As a perfect storm we all ended up in Las Vegas, you know? I was there for a wedding and [was told that] the property was there."

He later continued, "I said, 'Of course I would like to get the property.' He told me the names of what he thought were the people in the room, and I realized these are friends of mine. You know? Actually guys who helped me move, helped me move and store some of this stuff."

Simpson explained, "When I came into the [hotel] room I noticed spread out everywhere was my personal property."

"The only thing I saw that was on display that wasn't mine was some baseballs, and I made it clear to everybody those are not mine. All I want is my property. ... I wasn't there to steal from anybody."

"I would never, ever pull a weapon," he said.

Simpson added, "I haven't made any excuses in the nine years I've been here and not trying to make an excuses now."

When asked if he believed that the property was his, Simpson replied, "It's been ruled legally by the state of California that it was my property and they've given it to me."

Simpson: 'I was always a good guy'

Simpson reassured the board he would be successful meeting the conditions of his parole before it was granted, saying, "I'm not a guy who lived a criminal life."

PHOTO: O.J. Simpson appears in the parole hearing room to attend his hearing at the Lovelock Correctional Center in Lovelock, Nevada, July 20, 2017.ABC News
O.J. Simpson appears in the parole hearing room to attend his hearing at the Lovelock Correctional Center in Lovelock, Nevada, July 20, 2017.more +

Simpson said in his nine years behind bars, he's been "a good guy."

"I was always a good guy, but could have been a better Christian, and my commitment to change is to be a better Christian."

He said he took an "alternative to violence" course in prison, calling it "the most important course anybody in this prison can take because it teaches you how to deal with conflict through conversation."

"I had some problems with fidelity in my life, but I've always been a guy that pretty much got along with everybody," he said.

Simpson said he's missed 36 birthdays with his children while behind bars and missed their college graduations. Once released, he said he wants to spend as much time as he can with his family.

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Simpson's lawyer fumbles letter

During the hearing, Simpson's attorney, Malcolm LaVergne, planned to read to the board a letter Simpson wrote to a Nevada assemblyman, but LaVergne had difficulty finding it and asked Simpson in front of the commissioners, "Did you take the letter? I can't find it now."

He then located the letter and read it to the board; in the letter, Simpson advocates for state funds to go toward education for inmates.

LaVergne then argued to the board that Simpson's letter didn't ask for special treatment or an early release, but instead showed how Simpson wants to help other inmates have "a better life."

Simpson's daughter: 'We just want him to come home'

Simpson's eldest daughter, Arnelle Simpson, also spoke at the hearing, appearing emotional as she told the board her father is her "best friend" and her "rock."

"No one really knows how much we have been through, this ordeal in the last nine years," she said, noting that "he didn't make the right decision" on the day of the robbery.

"We just want him to come home," she said. "This has been really, truly hard. ... I know that he is remorseful."

Robbery victim speaks: 'O.J. never held a gun on me'

Bruce Fromong, one of the robbed memorabilia dealers and a victim in the case, spoke in Simpson’s favor at the hearing. He admitted the hotel room did contain items that belong to Simpson, but said that on the day of the robbery, "Simpson was misguided."

Fromong continued, "He was led to believe that on that day, there were going to be thousands of pieces of his personal memorabilia, pictures of his wife from his first marriage, pictures of his kids. He was told there were going to be possibly his wife's wedding ring, thousands of things. He was misled about what was going to be there that day."

"O.J. never held a gun on me," Fromong said. "O.J. is my friend, always has been, and I hope will remain my friend."

The parole order

The parole order gave these reasons for granting parole: Simpson has no or minimal prior conviction history, he has stable release plans, he has community and/or family support, he has a positive institutional record, he participated in programs specific to addressing behavior that led to incarceration, and his victim is in support of his parole.

PHOTO: O.J. Simpson listens as his defense attorney, Ozzie Fumo, questions witness David Cook during an evidentiary hearing in Clark County District Court, May 16, 2013, in Las Vegas.Julie Jacobson/Getty Images
O.J. Simpson listens as his defense attorney, Ozzie Fumo, questions witness David Cook during an evidentiary hearing in Clark County District Court, May 16, 2013, in Las Vegas.more +

Key moments in Simpson's life

Simpson's football career took him from the University of Southern California to the Buffalo Bills. Following his retirement, his celebrity status catapulted him to movie stardom and a cushy Brentwood, California, mansion.

More than 20 years ago, Simpson went on trial for the killing of his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and her friend, Ron Goldman. On June 12, 1994, the two were stabbed to death at her Los Angeles home. On Oct. 3, 1995, at the end of a televised trial that captivated the nation, Simpson was acquitted of all criminal charges. He has always maintained his innocence.

PHOTO: Johnnie Cochran puts his arm on O.J. Simpsons shoulder after Simpson told Judge Lance Ito that he has faith that jurors will acquit him of the murder of his ex-wife Nicole Simpson and her friend, Ronald Goldman, Sept. 22, 1995, in Los Angeles. Reed Saxon/AFP/Getty Images
Johnnie Cochran puts his arm on O.J. Simpson's shoulder after Simpson told Judge Lance Ito that he has faith that jurors will acquit him of the murder of his ex-wife Nicole Simpson and her friend, Ronald Goldman, Sept. 22, 1995, in Los Angeles.more +

A civil jury later ordered Simpson to pay $33.5 million in damages after finding him liable for wrongful death in the double murder.

For the 2007 robbery, Simpson was charged with a number of felony counts, including kidnapping and armed robbery. He was found guilty and sentenced to up to 33 years in prison.

His bid for a new trial in the case was rejected in 2013, but he was granted parole that same year on some of the charges, based on good behavior. He was not released from prison at that time, since his prison sentences were set to run consecutively. Simpson had to wait until this year to appear again before the parole board.

Simpson’s friend, Tom Scotto, told ABC News earlier this year that Simpson is "hopeful." Scotto said if Simpson is freed, he would want "to just keep a low profile, be with his kids, be with his family, play golf."

PHOTO: O.J. Simpson smiles as he approaches the parole hearing room to attend his hearing at the Lovelock Correctional Center in Lovelock, Nevada, July 20, 2017.Sholeh L Moll-Masumi/LCC
O.J. Simpson smiles as he approaches the parole hearing room to attend his hearing at the Lovelock Correctional Center in Lovelock, Nevada, July 20, 2017.more +

Ron Goldman's family speaks ahead of parole hearing

Hours before the parole hearing, Ron Goldman's father, Fred Goldman, told ABC News Chief Anchor George Stephanopoulos on "Good Morning America," "What's troubling to me is not only him, but the whole system gives second chances to violent felons or, for that matter, anyone in jail. ... Ron doesn't get a second chance.

"Ron never gets to spend his life doing what he wanted to do," Fred Goldman continued. "We'll never get to share his life, and the killer will walk free and get to do whatever he wants."

Fred Goldman said the parole board should take into account that Simpson was found liable for the killings in the 1997 civil trial.

"I think his whole history of violence, ignoring the law, no respect for the law, no remorse for virtually anything he's ever done is an indication of who he is as a person," Fred Goldman said. "I don’t think there's any reason to think that he's going to be a decent human being in society. I think he's proved otherwise."

Added Ron Goldman's sister, Kim Goldman, "We lived our life with [Simpson] walking the streets and sharing the same roads that we did."

"With him being locked up in Lovelock, it's been a chance for us to kind of reclaim some control over our life and have some glimpse of sanity," she said. "I'm preparing myself for that to be changing come October."

ABC News' Jenna Harrison and Sabina Ghebremedhin contributed to this report.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/oj-simpson-granted-parole-las-vegas-robbery/story?id=48689499

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Can we be 100% sure OJ committed those murders ?
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A jury wasn't convinced he murdered anyone. 
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Parole hearing was live on ESPN early this morning (and probably a couple of news networks as well). I recorded it and will probably watch a little tonight but not sure how interesting it will be. It was basically a rubber stamp for what was a foregone conclusion.
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And yet, Goldman's father says the "killer" will be back on the loose. There was the civil case that awarded damages on the basis that OJ was the perpetrator, so maybe he can say that with impunity. If that is so, it is hard to reconcile that with OJ not doing time for it. Though his 9 years seems at least a partial "get square" for that.
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There is a lesser known documentary specifically on the civil trial where they interview Fred Goldman and their attorney as well as show length footage of the deposition and the number of times he gets shown up for the inconsistencies in his story is astonishing. Of course without and admission of guilt there will not be anything to give 100% certainty but I'd suggest it's pretty close.
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In the criminal trial the result is based on the specific charge of first degree murder being proven beyond reasonable doubt.

In the civil trial the result was based on a preponderance of evidence leading to a conclusion of involvement in the deaths.
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Yes, but Goldman says he is the killer, not the very likely killer, and seemingly feels secure in the law in saying it.
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 With $25m still unpaid by Simpson to the Goldmans as a result of the civil finding, I doubt OJ will be suing Goldman and having it all re-litigated
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Must say if the above facts are true re the Robbery he was given a tough sentence. All sounded pretty reasonable....blokes he knew knocked off his stuff to flog....& he heard about it & wanted it back....& since been shown that it was still his by a court. With no previous history it would cop at best a slap on the wrist I would have thought. That's IF above is a true reflection ! 
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:


Must say if the above facts are true re the Robbery he was given a tough sentence. All sounded pretty reasonable....blokes he knew knocked off his stuff to flog....& he heard about it & wanted it back....& since been shown that it was still his by a court. With no previous history it would cop at best a slap on the wrist I would have thought. That's IF above is a true reflection ! 



If you listen to the audio of the incident which one of he victims kindly recorded you hear him tell the accomplices not to let anyone out of the room. That's kidnapping. Agree it was a stich up but much more than a slap on the wrist offence as well.
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From memory of the case, he took a gun with him, the mates he recruited were uncertain about the gun, but still went along with it. He didn't go to police as he should have to report the where-abouts of his stolen property because recovering it legally would have made it available to the Goldmans to whom he owed $25m as part of the civil judgement.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

From memory of the case, he took a gun with him, the mates he recruited were uncertain about the gun, but still went along with it. He didn't go to police as he should have to report the where-abouts of his stolen property because recovering it legally would have made it available to the Goldmans to whom he owed $25m as part of the civil judgement.
Yeah that puts a bit more perspective on it PT. Still seems harsh though. Didn't point the gun, it was his stuff, no one got hurt, & the kidnapping charge would be on the lower end of the scale imo (short time in a hotel room). Anyhow, he's out now - he is an odd sort of fellow - how can he keep up the front ?
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He was pretty arrogant after his acquital, he ghost wrote that book ''If I Did It'' which was cancelled following an injunction by the Goldmans and hundreds of thousands of copies pulped, and he carried out the ''robbery'' not expecting any consequences With nearly 10 years in prison and 70 years old now, you would think he should have learned to pull his head in
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9 years is a big sentence at his age, if they weren't going to let him out some time soon, it really would look like a penalty for another crime.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

He was pretty arrogant after his acquital, he ghost wrote that book ''If I Did It'' which was cancelled following an injunction by the Goldmans and hundreds of thousands of copies pulped, and he carried out the ''robbery'' not expecting any consequences With nearly 10 years in prison and 70 years old now, you would think he should have learned to pull his head in
Is that even possible for someone who can carry out a crime like that & then totally thumb his nose at everyone around him ? I mean who is he kidding.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

He was pretty arrogant after his acquital, he ghost wrote that book ''If I Did It'' which was cancelled following an injunction by the Goldmans and hundreds of thousands of copies pulped, and he carried out the ''robbery'' not expecting any consequences With nearly 10 years in prison and 70 years old now, you would think he should have learned to pull his head in



The book wasn't canned. The Goldmans sued for and were given the rights to the book as part of the settlement. It was then published with the word "if" in tiny letters on the front cover.
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His parole was an absolute given, if only because they need to free up a cell for the Trumpster's almost inevitable residence.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

He was pretty arrogant after his acquital, he ghost wrote that book ''If I Did It'' which was cancelled following an injunction by the Goldmans and hundreds of thousands of copies pulped, and he carried out the ''robbery'' not expecting any consequences With nearly 10 years in prison and 70 years old now, you would think he should have learned to pull his head in



The book wasn't canned. The Goldmans sued for and were given the rights to the book as part of the settlement. It was then published with the word "if" in tiny letters on the front cover.

Ok, I thought it was re-written. The Goldman version of the cover also had  under the title ''Confessions of a killer''
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Originally posted by ExceedAndExcel ExceedAndExcel wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

He was pretty arrogant after his acquital, he ghost wrote that book ''If I Did It'' which was cancelled following an injunction by the Goldmans and hundreds of thousands of copies pulped, and he carried out the ''robbery'' not expecting any consequences With nearly 10 years in prison and 70 years old now, you would think he should have learned to pull his head in



The book wasn't canned. The Goldmans sued for and were given the rights to the book as part of the settlement. It was then published with the word "if" in tiny letters on the front cover.


Ok, I thought it was re-written. The Goldman version of the cover also had  under the title ''Confessions of a killer''



My understanding is that the only change that was made was the word "if" and the additional words in the title. Probably some added Forward by Fred Goldman as well but other than that it's the same.
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There's a scene in OJ: Made In America where Fred Goldman talks about the book and what was changed. Not having any luck finding it though unfortunately. Was in part 5 I think.
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His parole was an absolute given, if only because they need to free up a cell for the Trumpster's almost inevitable residence.



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STRIKE WHILST THE IRON IS HOT

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The richest man is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least.

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You tell the story with that picture Djebel ,    No need to say a word.

Some women wonder why they get killed.       SO Vulnerable & brainless.

Given the right circumstance he would do it all again & again.
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He will have some young stupid bimbo hanging off his arm before the month is out. No doubt she will look pretty much like the one in the above vid.   All makeup, boobs and hair, and no brain.
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He will have some young stupid bimbo hanging off his arm before the month is out. No doubt she will look pretty much like the one in the above vid.   All makeup, boobs and hair, and no brain.


That's what I was suggesting.   Amazing how the worst of the worst get the fan mail in the gaols.
So funny Djebel's clip.     also so near to true.
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