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LOLThe court will decide in June if the rest of his sentence for recklessly endangering a police officer will be suspended.

Pffft ..."recklessly endangering a police officer" ... is that even an offence???Ermm

In his remarks, Justice Barr also noted a senior officer in Alice springs had expressed concern about Voller being bailed to BushMob, because it was not a locked down facility.

But he said the officer's concerns had been addressed by the proposal that Voller would wear an electronic monitoring bracelet.

I feel safer already!!!Thumbs Up... How fcuking stupid are they in Melbourne ... if they had just made Dimitrious Gargasoulas wear a bracelet ... 


"The grant of bail will give Dylan Voller the chance to prove his good behaviour." 

... yes, he's NEVER been given THAT chance ... stop it my sides hurt!LOLLOL

Justice Barr added the strong emphasis put on therapeutic assistance for post-traumatic stress disorder and other conditions at the rehabilitation facility was suitable to Voller's needs.

"Dylan Voller will have the support of a psychiatrist, psychologist and a GP [at BushMob]," he said.


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People will be drawing straws to see who is going to be lucky enough to work with him.
And I just wonder who will be paying for all this care he is to get, while our service veterans can get sweet nothing !!  
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Good to see some balance coming through.

Dylan Voller tells NT child detention inquiry that anger led to ‘empty threats

Dylan Voller’s first cross-examination before the Northern Territ­ory child detention royal com­mission has revealed a catalogue of incidents of foul, threatening and violent behaviour and raised doubts about the reliability of his evidence.

The inquiry heard yesterday that Mr Voller threw urine on youth justice officers, defecated in clothing and around his cell, and once spat at a nurse who arrived to check him for self-harm.

The former Don Dale and Alice Springs inmate, now aged 19 and out on bail after a lengthy sentence for crimes including attemptin­g to run down a police officer, admitted to telling “white lies” on occasion but denied misleading the commission.

Mr Voller explained incon­sisten­cies in his statements — including naming the wrong guards — as “typing” and communication errors, but struggled with his memory when details from incident reports and other documents were put to him.

Solicitor for the Northern Territory Sonia Brownhill asked Mr Voller whether, in 2011, he had threatened the family of an Alice Springs-based guard who put paper over a window Mr Voller was “tapping on”.

“You threatened youth justice worker Tasker saying: ‘When I see you in the street I’m going to spit in your face, you fat white c... . I’m going to rape your wife and your granddaughter when I get out of here’,” Ms Brownhill said.

Mr Voller replied: “I can’t remember­ the incident.”

Later that night, he allegedly threw food, graffitied walls and pledged to burn down the man’s house with his family inside.

Mr Voller’s lawyer, Peter O’Brien SC, accused Ms Brownhill of attempting to “humiliate” his client and sully his reputation, but Commissioner Margaret White said it was important for the inquiry to hear the “day-to-day difficulties that these largely untrained officers” were facing.

The inquiry heard claims the youth justice officer Mr Voller allegedly­ threatened — Derek Tasker, who has twice been acquitted­ of assaulting him — left work one day saying to Mr Voller, “See you, I’m going home to f. k your mum”, as a provocation.

“Because of what he said, I ended up going off a lot more, punching walls, kicking doors,” Mr Voller said. “I do acknowledge that I did make empty threats that were completely immature, that I never meant and I never followed through with. I just said that ­because I was angry and I apologise to all those people that I have said silly things to.”

Mr Voller’s unexpected reappearance at the Royal Commission into the Protection and Detention of Children in the NT comes amid a major stoush over procedural fairness.

He was said last year to be too fragile to undergo cross-examination and was not expected to ­return after his testimony in Dec­ember.

Ms Brownhill said the Territory had since been invited to question him, without saying why he was now “suitably capable”.

“The mere fact of a contest between­ Mr Voller’s version of an event and another person’s version raises issues of credibility and … needs to be explored,” she said.

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NT Government has royal commission conflict of interest, Dylan Voller's lawyer says

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Gruelling questioning of Dylan Voller about his childhood behaviour has been likened to having a "blowtorch" applied, with the teenager's lawyer criticising the NT Government for its "adversarial approach" during the NT child protection royal commission hearings.

Mr Voller, 19, underwent intensive cross-examination on Thursday by NT Solicitor-General Sonia Brownhill, who questioned him about his misbehaviour at school, his threats to self-harm, and threats against officers while incarcerated.

She said on Thursday that Mr Voller's credibility as a witness at the Royal Commission into Youth Detention and Child Protection had been questioned and his characterisation of his own behaviour in detention was a "gross understatement".

"Mr Voller's made numerous allegations about his treatment in detention, in order to understand that treatment and to understand the actions of youth justice officers in reaction to it... it's necessary to understand his behaviour and the extreme nature of that behaviour," she said.

Voller responded to many of her questions about his past criminal offences, assaults, and threats by saying he could not recall them.

"Many of the things he was asked about yesterday happened at a time he threatened to kill himself, where he was in such an emotionally charged position that you would hardly criticise him for not having recall of those events," his lawyer Peter O'Brien said.

He told reporters outside Darwin's Supreme Court on Friday that Mr Voller had a number of issues known to authorities.

"You're talking about a young person, still young, who's traumatised… who has, as a matter of public knowledge — but certainly known to the Government because he was in their care — to have a great deal of psychological and psychiatric conditions," he said.

He said Mr Voller's troubled childhood was no secret.

"When you look at cross-examining a 19-year-old about what happened when he was nine years old, it's very different," he said.

"You were a child, you're being cross-examined about times at which you'd been threatening to kill yourself, or trying to kill yourself, or trying to hurt yourself; it's a very serious proposition to cross-examine anyone about that."

He said Ms Brownhill's cross-examination of Mr Voller was "very gruelling": "the blowtorch was put right upon him", he said.

Despite Mr Voller's violent past, Mr O'Brien said that "nothing justifies what happened to him" when he was abused by staff in youth detention in Alice Springs and Darwin between the ages of about 11 and 18

NT Government's involvement 'adversarial'

Mr O'Brien questioned the NT's attitude towards the royal commission.

"They have taken an adversarial approach, not only representing the departments and ministers but also those against whom complaints have been made," he said.

"This Government of the NT has indicated in its involvement in these processes, to my mind, a real demonstrated conflict of interest."


He urged the federal government to closely consider the role of the NT Government and ensure the future recommendations of the commissioners would be implemented.

"What will come at the end of this royal commission are a set of hopefully and, I'm sure, very laudable and appropriate and absolutely responsible recommendations... will they (the NT Government) implement them?" Mr O'Brien said.


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Sickening ....
   Any Psychiatric conditions this Psychopath , Voller , may have ,  doesn't make his victims less dead.
 
 He is a murder waiting to happen and those who think his type need special considerations that place members in Society in more danger are more mad than he is .
 
    We need to get these people off the streets and monitored ,   if that means returning to the Old Institutional asylum then so be it .
   That way thousands of lives will be saved over time.
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Got a mate who works in the prison system in another state and he even knows hie bad this grub is
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Got a mate who works in the prison system in another state and he even knows hie bad this grub is
 
    Voller is the perfect example of the typically dangerous Psychopath.
 
  He knows nothing else .       >>>      Born with it , will be with him forever ,  and innocents will be maimed & killed as a result of it.
      The drug scene adds to the severity and the increasing numbers .
 
     The same applies to the Sudanese gangs in Melbourne ,  They know nothing else and hopefully our Governments will one day stop importing the worlds insanity to our welfare systems shores.
 
   But don't hold your breath ,  >>>     Their vote is worth more than our lives. 
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Well !!   I am agreeing with Macca  here .  
No sympathy for Voller.   After seeing his record over years,  and years,  Cry  he is a looney .   Pure and simple.  Lunatic.   
So why would anyone believe anything he says   ??????
Oh yeah.  Thats right .   He is sweet and innocent and the prison people are telling fibs.


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You've just gotta love the ABC's take on it ... "a difficult child" ... at least they are consistent ... remember they referred to him in the Cut Corners report as "a boy" never a youth ... just sickening, and the outcome will ensure that the production line of offenders just like him will continue uninterrupted.

Dylan Voller a difficult child who assaulted students before Don Dale jailing, commission told

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Egg on a few faces in this thread now and turns out it was very poor journalism wasn't it that the old ABC  put out.
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Some interesting reporting on the evidence being given at the RC.

Seems that the Cut Corners reporter was misleading as well as biased ... fcuk no, surely they don't use SOPHISTRY too!?LOL

Gee, the ones I really feel sorry for are the SJW's who almost lost their minds virtue signaling when this load of trash was put to air ... hope it gets a run on Q&A and The Project on Monday!Ermm


Four Corners report ‘unbalanced’


The Four Corners program that sparked the Don Dale royal commission was “the antithesis of a balanced report” and instead “calculated to have maximum sensationalist impact”, according to the then corrections minister, John Elferink.

The accusations can be revealed after Don Dale royal commission backflipped on an earlier move to shield the ABC from Mr Elferink’s criticisms, at the behest of the broadcaster’s lawyers, by unredacting sections of his statement it had previously withheld.

In the statement to the Royal Commission into the Protection and Detention of Children in the NT tendered this morning, Mr Elferink said he had sought assurances in advance from the ABC’s reporter, Caro Meldrum-Hanna, that the program would not be a “hatchet job”.

“Meldrum-Hanna said words to the effect that any story which she produced would be balanced because she was bound by the highest editorial and journalistic standards in the country because she worked for the ABC and its flagship program Four Corners,” the statement said.

“The Four Corners program which was ultimately broadcast and which was the catalyst for the calling of this Royal Commission was the antithesis of a balanced report and was in fact misleading.

“By way of example, vision of alleged assaults being perpetrated on detainees was accompanied by assertions that the government had done nothing in relation to such matters when it was a matter of public record that officers had been criminally prosecuted for some of the incidents broadcast by the ABC and, moreover, had been acquitted.”

The statement accused the ABC of omitting other crucial facts and of failing to seek a proper response to the only new information the report presented: the CCTV footage of incidents that had already been investigated.

Earlier, The Don Dale royal commission had agreed to shield the ABC from criticism by redacting paragraphs attacking the controversial Four Corners program from a statement provided by former corrections minister John Elferink, following a request from the broadcaster’s lawyers.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/nt-royal-commission-shields-abc-four-corners-don-dale-program/news-story/a46a8c0e9d6af7da24097b56452d4b50

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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

And people want to defund the ABC. Brilliant journalism. Again.
Malcolm Turnbull might want to add a Royal Commission into Nauru as well, or do asylum seekers not count?
What hope do these indigenous kids have when treated by authority like that? No racism in this country is there......

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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

waiting for the ridiculous arguments that were seen here when blacks in America were shot by racist, thug cops,   Aboriginals commit more crimes and have a large percentage in prison compared to their numbers.  Conclusion, they deserve whatever treatmment is meted out Ouch



... hmmm, yes indeed, "ridiculous" ... Embarrassed 

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Clap... congratulations to Chanel 9 and 60 Minutes!

In spite of numerous valid challengers of late, from an all star field, they have just wrested the mantle as the most irrelevant source of legitimate news in the universe!Thumbs Up

In case you missed it, their piece on the future "role model" and aspiring "law student", Dylan Voller, will rank amongst some of the worst pap journalism ever produced, anywhere, ever. 

From excusing him for every one of his more than 50 offences - as they were all "inevitable" due to his sad childhood - to replaying 10 times, the same 3 pieces of tape of a young Voller in correctional cells being disciplined (that have been replayed on every station 1,000 times before). From the obligatory shot of him in the restraints and spit hood, which was explained as he stated he had been "feeling suicidal" (no mention that he had threatened to snap his own arm and use it a s a weapon, and had spat on staff over 300 times) to the cynical mention of the similarity to Guantanamo Bay (Good Grief!) by his solicitor ... it was simply a rip off and re-run of the most "unbalanced" parts of the Cut Corners debacle - but without any attempt to even as for a comment from the corrective services, police, prosecutors, his victims or anyone for that matter, who might dispute any of the sycophantic drivel that Liz Hayes was able to summons.

If you get the opportunity to watch it, do yourself a favour and watch an episode of Q&A instead!Dead


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60 Minutes actually started did it?Shocked I flicked across at 9.20pm, 20 minutes after the advertised start time, and they were still carrying on with that stupid warbling show, so I gave it a miss.
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Dylan Voller played his part very well.

A true Psychopath is well known for that ability.

All doors are open for him to prove so many wrong but put your house on it;-        >   He will make headlines when the dust settles, for all the wrong reasons.

Anyone ask the question :-      If a madman isn't restrained as Voller was ,     What is the alternative.
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