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Lovely presented track Brudder, no wonder they made time , world class imo.
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Was really interested when Mastercraftsman entered stud in NZ, and he appears to have done well both there and in Oz in addition to Europe and now the USA.

Does he still stand in NZ?
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Lovely presented track Brudder, no wonder they made time , world class imo.

Belmont Park is IMO the best track in the US and by far the best turf track. They also have an inner turf track which doubles for duty as well. The "Widener Turf" is just a manicure of what contiually produces eye popping times for races. Credit needs to go to NYRA for opening up it scheduled with new turf races (BP Gold Cup, Belmont Derby, Belmont Oaks) which are starting to get added attention from racing stables in Europe.

Most of the stakes turf winners were from Europe:

Thursday
G3 Intercontinental Stakes - La Sardene (France)
G3 Wonder Again Stakes - La Signare (France)
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Friday
G2 New York Stakes - Fourstar Crook (New York State) defeated Sister Charlie (Ireland) 4/7on fav by a head.
G2 Gold Cup - Call To Mind (Great Britain)
Optional Claiming 1 1/16 m - Almanaar (Great Britain)
Optional Claiming 1 m - Raging Bull (France)
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Saturday
G2 Jaipur Stakes - Disco Partner (New York)
G1 Just a Game Stakes - A Raving Beauty (Germany)
G1 Manhattan Stakes - Spring Quality (Pennsylvannia)
Optional Claiming 1 1/8 m - Slim Shaddy (Great Britain)

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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Was really interested when Mastercraftsman entered stud in NZ, and he appears to have done well both there and in Oz in addition to Europe and now the USA.

Does he still stand in NZ?


According to the US Stud registry he is in Ireland with Coolmore

Mastercraftsman (IRE)

Coolmore Stud, IRE

2018 Fee: €25,000

gr/ro, 2006, entered stud 2010, by Danehill Dancer (IRE) - Starlight Dreams, by Black Tie Affair (IRE)

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Hello,
when I checked the peds of the winners at "Belmopnt.
I saw La Signare (Siyouni-La Teranga by Beat Hollow), "Wonder Again Stakes. Even she was bred in France, has a typical German damline. She is fronm the "Alex" Family like ALMANDIN.
 
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Thanks Ticino.

ps there must be an interesting story as to how and why she ended up in the USA.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Thanks Ticino.

ps there must be an interesting story as to how and why she ended up in the USA.


From Thoroughbred Daily News

Trained by Didier Guillemin to kick off her career in her native country, La Signare was a close fourth first up at Toulouse Oct. 17 before breaking through at that venue Nov. 4 and being picked up privately. The bay rallied for a half-length second in a Keeneland allowance Apr. 11 won by Toinette (Scat Daddy), who returned to annex the GIII Edgewood S. at Churchill May 4 over a field that included Significant Form’s star stablemate Rushing Fall (More Than Ready) and Daddy Is a Legend (Scat Daddy).

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It was the second start in the United States for La Signare after she broke her maiden in France in November. Her first stateside effort was a second-place finish in an April 11 Keeneland allowance. Owned by Madaket Stables, Tim Cambron, Anna Cambron, and Bradley Thoroughbreds, she has $144,413 in earnings.
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NTRA Produces a weekly poll for 3YOs and Open Category.

As expected Justify heads the list as the 13th Triple Crown winner in the 3yo category.

1    Justify (42)            3c    6-6-0-0    420    1
2    Good Magic              3c    4-1-1-1    339    2
3    Audible                 3c    3-2-0-1    282    3
4    Monomoy Girl            3f    4-4-0-0    260    5
5    Hofburg                 3c    4-1-1-1    180    9
6    *Gronkowski             3c    1-0-1-0    175    24
7    Bravazo                 3c    6-2-1-0    123    4
8    Vino Rosso              3c    5-1-0-1     98    10
9    My Boy Jack             3c    5-2-0-2     72    7
10   Tenfold                 3c    5-2-0-1     63    8


* Only North American form
Otherwise would have the 2018 record of  4-3-1-0

I feel that Gronkowski could be worthy of a higher ranking if the pollsters would consider his UK starts. He mad the biggest rise jumping from 24th to sixth
Theoretically they should since once a horse has made a start in North American all form should be considered.
Filly Monomoy Girl is ranked too high IMO. Unless she would face some of these colts and beat them then she has no right to be 4th.

Open Category

1    Justify (38)            3c    6-6-0-0    389    1T
2    Accelerate              5h    4-3-1-0    313    3
3    West Coast (2)          4c    2-0-2-0    292    1
4    Unique Bella (1)        4f    3-2-1-0    220    5
5    Mind Your Biscuits (1)  5h    3-1-2-0    180    4
6    Bee Jersey              4c    4-4-0-0    179    -
7    Abel Tasman             4f    2-1-0-0    136    10
8    City Of Light           4c    3-2-0-1    126    7
9    Army Mule               4c    2-2-0-0     86    6
10   Monomoy Girl            3f    4-4-0-0     80    16

This is an interesting list which starts to converge as we the second half of the season heads towards the Breeder's Cup races.

Justify has proved uniqueness and has the support of many a pollster. I think he will show up in The Travers at Saratoga for 3yos over 1 1/4 miles before embarking on one more race, probably at Del Mar and finishing with Breeder's Cup Classic. But he will have to face the older horses and that is where it will get interesting. Bob Baffert trains West Coast and this horse had wonderful ending campaign in 2017 and was no slouch in the two richest races on the dirt this year. Again Unique Bella is a talented mare but unless she beats the boys she should not be this high. Mind Your Biscuits is a strong sprinter who just failed to win the G1 Metropolitan Mile over the weekend beaten by Bee Jersey who finnaly gots some votes to crack the Top Ten Rankings.

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