New stallions 2019

Aquis announced Performer today... so yeah they're scrapping the bottom of the barrel at this point.

I recognize the IAI’s, but how many have the same credentials and have failed to deliver?
I can name Dreamscape, some of the shutters like Refuse to Bend, dare I say Galileo, Teifilo, etc . I know some come and go, but today we seem to have more go than come in relation to success on our shores

Too many  ^^^^^

Majestic wrote: Are we seeing anything with supposed ability being bought by some of the new studs on the block? Years ago only tested and tried stallions were an item of competition by decently successful studs. Today, any listed or Gp3 winning colt is exsulted as the next big thing. How many of Widden, Darley, Coolmore first season stallions with little or no real performance have been retired and send off to oblivion after 3 seasons? Reactions anyone?

Majestic wrote: I recognize the IAI’s, but how many have the same credentials and have failed to deliver? I can name Dreamscape, some of the shutters like Refuse to Bend, dare I say Galileo, Teifilo, etc . I know some come and go, but today we seem to have more go than come in relation to success on our shores

Five Year Breeding Statistics - as at 01 May 2019

Coverings in 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 Stallions Standing 695 668 644 617 605 Mares Covered 20380 19385 19420 19509 20204 Returns for 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 Live Foals Born 13899 13092 12922 13082 13120 Live Foals/Coverings 68% 68% 67% 67% 65% Non Live Foals 4201 4108 4233 4128 3857 Mares Not Served 5112 4867 4385 3898 2968 Total Returns Received 23212 22067 21540 21108 19945

Second Chance wrote: We already breed too many bad horses, and we also stand too many poorly bred, conformed or performed stallions.

Years ago, our major breeders were blinded by the UK/European suffix. So many stallions who raced here in the 60’s 70’s and 80’s with Sprinting, miler, middle distance and staying performances were totally discriminated against. The Ken Cox’s, the Baramul team, the Ferd Calvin’s and the Kruger’s in Qld all leant toward imported stallions. At that time the stallion performers included Craftsman, Sir Dane, Shorengro, Dhaulagiri, Contemplor, Tolerance, Shako, I could go on, but the same sentiment doomed them all to oblivion as stallions. Only when Century came to the fore with two crops racing did Aust stud farms start to look at “Colonials”. Within 5-10 years Aust bred stallions started to occupy the majority of top 20 stallions. This situation continues to today as I have stated above. BUT I think we are hoodwinked by some of the shuttler providers . In reality, some of these stallions shuttling are s**t and have no real benefit to our breeding industry, except to provide paid advertising space to promote them on our websites and stallion books.
I am sorry, but a very good number of breeders from past had the defining strategy of f**k the local colonial stallions, we now have access to the “best” of GB and Euro breeding in the stallions we have imported, yes at great cost and thus supposedly better than what we have here.
I will revisit old stallion registers from the late 60’s to today and I will name the stallions, the studs and the fees charges for the s**t that were presented over the years.
Carioca, I think we have a not too divergent opinion on today’s breeding industry and the way it is presented, advertised and ultimately let down by.

djebel,
I do agree that some of our better performers over the years have been geldings. I would ask you to acknowledge that those same geldings raced over numerous seasons for our pleasure.the likes of Lor$, Winfreux, Galilee, Ziema, Bold King, Time and Tide, Prince Grant, Prince Darius, etc, etc, have provided much pleasure. We did have to import, BUT some of our better performed horses of that era were stallions and, when retired to stud, were ignored.
I will acknowledge that some of the better performed stallions of yeRs ago did help our breeding and they were imports, like Showdown, Star Kingdom, Dignitas, Port Vista, but, when I get back to my farm and library, I will list a number of stallions, although greatly advertised for their supposed ability to improve our industry, have failed dismally.
We could also mention that these stallions, who were failures of n Aust, have their daughters used to “improve” our genetic base.
Till I revisit farm and library

Hello,

Make that "34% of stallions in Australia that are listed in Stallions 2019 at a fee of $11,000 or more are bred in the Northern Hemisphere".

Great post furious, some nice memories of youngsters I looked after by stallions mentioned earlier in your post.

Furious, brilliant synopsis. My own thoughts indeed. Your suggestion to limit books on new stallions could work, if the industry complies completely. 1st season sires, especially the 3yo colt restricted to say 80 mares, if a 1sr season stallion races till the end of his 4yo season or later, let him have 100 mares. BUT until proven how about a limit of 100 or so mares till he proves if he warrants that 4th and 5th season at stud.
Also, now djebel don’t smile. All Gp1 racing to be contested only by entires and fillies/mares. Let the evergreen geldings race for lesser races, with exception of our Gp1 Cups races in each state and the mile Epsom, Doncaster and the 1600m race during Melb spring carnival. Possibly throw in all-in Stradbroke, Doomben 10,000 and cup.
The grading of our Gp1 racing is another topic
FWIW

Sometimes there is no other way - Trekking was dangerous as a colt.

Sorry I don't get tongue in cheek always!  Very literal when I'm snowed under and busy and mind kind of only sees one way as you have to shoulder on - even when you don't have a cold.