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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

Should be in the Lightning (which he’d win). Not much chance of that now, especially as the new trainer has a couple of colts heading there.

Surely the decision to run in the Lightning Stks would be up to the owners, not the trainer. Especially when the new trainer has had the horse for all of 5 minutes!!

I think he should run in both the Lightning Stks 1000m & Oakleigh Plate 1100m. I have a gut feeling that 1200m in G1 company might find him out.

Keep him to 1000-1100m sprints, that’s his sweet spot.

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ps and paradoxically there's far more pressure earlier on in an Oakleigh Plate than there is in a Lightning.
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Exactly. Big field, tighter track, for a horse than doesnt jump the best and should never be bustled out of the barriers. Risk in the OP even though the the Lightning is usually a stronger race- he’ll have about 5 or 6 rivals and he can just pick his spot down the Flemington straight. Nominal fave is a horse he be 8L over the same trip last time in. Surely...
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Racing.com said earlier today, will nominate but good chance he doesn’t accept.
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Sorry, but if he doesn’t run the only explanation that makes any sense is the trainer has a stallion prospect in the same race. More demented million dollar restricted sales races yesterday, Urban Ruler heading the ballot in the worlds richest mile...seriously, this sport is starting to resemble boxing
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...wrong emoji there
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On a day they were running to slow track times , Natrure Strip , produces an almost 1.5 second faster run than the Diamond Preludes, over the 1100m.
   He's good.
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I agree the lightning would be a walk in the park for him, having a look at him in the mounting yard yesty there's not much of him, lightened of in the neck and a tad behind , will he cop 3 runs in 3 weeks is debatable , maybe one of either then freshen for the TJ , he's gunna have to face the deep end sometime fwiw.
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Should have run in Lightning first up.
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Pity he couldn't run last week. Was Lighting second up the Weir plan?

I can't think of any Lightningy type horses except Redzel. Who will be in it?
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Yes, Weir wanted to run Lightning 2nd up

Edited by Gay3 - 10 Feb 2019 at 7:52pm
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One bookmaker has Sunlight, Graff, Osborne Bulls, In Her Time, Lean Mean Machine as well as Nature Strip all under $10, not sure which are confirmed. 

Edited by Gay3 - 10 Feb 2019 at 7:53pm
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

ps and paradoxically there's far more pressure earlier on in an Oakleigh Plate than there is in a Lightning.







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Not nominated
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Originally posted by kiwi88 kiwi88 wrote:

One bookmaker has Sunlight, Graff, Osborne Bulls, In Her Time, Lean Mean Machine as well as Nature Strip all under $10, not sure which are confirmed. 

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Race 7 - Black Caviar Lightning (1000 METRES)Times displayed in local time of Race Meeting
Of $750,000.1st $450,000, 2nd $135,000, 3rd $67,500, 4th $33,750, 5th $18,750, 6th $15,000, 7th $15,000, 8th $15,000
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Track Name: Main Track Type: Turf Track Condition: Good 4

Field Limit: 20 + 4 EM

     Last 10     Horse     Sex     Age     Trainer     Hcp Rating
1     6x1211125x     BATTLE HERO     G     7     Chris Gangemi     106
2     667x00x6x1     CHAUFFEUR     H     4     David & B Hayes & T Dabernig     92
3     x222274x1x     DIVINE QUALITY     M     5     Robbie Griffiths     98
4     11x221x     EDUARDO     G     5     Sarah Zschoke     99
5     2x020164x2     GLENALL     H     5     Michael, Wayne & John Hawkes     96
6     11x1235x     GRAFF     C     3     Kris Lees     98
7     2x139x372x     IN HER TIME     M     6     Kris Lees     113
8     12     JEDASTAR     F     2     Lloyd Kennewell     72
9     13310x153x     LEAN MEAN MACHINE     C     3     Chris Waller     99
10     820x370945     MISSROCK     M     5     Robbie Laing     99
11     3121x1531x     OSBORNE BULLS     G     5     James Cummings     111
12     113x21171x     SUNLIGHT     F     3     Tony McEvoy     108
13     x93186x315     USAIN BOWLER     G     4     John Sadler     78
14     1114x114x2     WRITTEN BY     C     3     Grahame Begg     104
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

ps and paradoxically there's far more pressure earlier on in an Oakleigh Plate than there is in a Lightning.



If you're attempting to make fun of me, or the comment, or both - (a) I take extreme offence and (b) you clearly have no !#* idea. 
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Just got this text message from a random number (I’m not even with this bookie either )


Get $2.50 on Nature Strip this Saturday with Classicbet. Max Bet $1000. https://www.classicbet.com.au/Sport/RACING_SPECIAL/Nature_Strip_Lay_of_the_Day/Matches
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Originally posted by Xavier Xavier wrote:

Just got this text message from a random number (I’m not even with this bookie either )


Get $2.50 on Nature Strip this Saturday with Classicbet. Max Bet $1000. https://www.classicbet.com.au/Sport/RACING_SPECIAL/Nature_Strip_Lay_of_the_Day/Matches

    Who cut it's leg off ?.
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He is the class horse. He should just be too fast for them.
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Originally posted by Bonfield Bonfield wrote:

He is the class horse. He should just be too fast for them.


   The "Go slows" are on him Bonfield. > Makes for a better price.

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Kerbside collection
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Glad I wasnt on
It's always good when a WA horse does well in the Eastern States or abroad.
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Nature Strip is the most over rated horse in the country. He needs 1000 meters with no pressure otherwise he just folds.
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Let’s see the wash up & whether there was anything amiss with the horse before bagging him.

But you may be right about just being a pure 1000m sprinter. There’s nothing wrong with that at all.   He can tackle the Caulfield Sprint & AJ Moir in the spring & have a go at the Lightning Stks next autumn
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You're half right. He just needs 1000. Run him over 1000m. Not rocket science. One of the fastest horses I've seen but you just simply can't run those sort of sectionals and keep going. In a big handicap. They've stuffed him up.
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Originally posted by Red Rancher Red Rancher wrote:

Nature Strip is the most over rated horse in the country. He needs 1000 meters with no pressure otherwise he just folds.


I think we would agree at this time ...   Kerbside Collection was a

fair enough summation by Xavier
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He did disappoint today anyway.
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I don't think he's a squib, he's just a unique animal. Imagine sending Usain Bolt out in a 400m race- but he couldn't help himself and decided WTF...I'm gonna go flat knackers from the start. He'd fold up. 

Everything is there in this horse's splits. They were a tick outside the course record today. His last 200 today was just like his last 200 last start. 

I'd go overseas, seeing they missed their best chance here. Strangely, there are more G! 1000m races there than here. Fresh, they won't see which way he went.
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