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    Posted: 13 Jan 2015 at 6:35pm
Throw the book at him. Heres your chance racing to prove its one rule for all....

Edited by Gay3 - 14 Jan 2015 at 12:35pm
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
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Not very informative for an opening post subby, I'm sure we'd all appreciate your sharing the news Confused
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Peter Moody to face stewards over positive tests

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Published: January 13, 2015 - 6:36PM

One of Australia's leading horse trainers Peter Moody has been informed by Racing Victoria that one of his team has tested positive to the outlawed narcotic cobalt during last year's spring racing carnival and faces up to a three-year disqualification if found guilty.

The man who prepared champion mare Black Caviar to win a succession of races over five years will face stewards in coming weeks.

Moody has been a premiership-winning trainer since arriving from Queensland. He chose to inform selected members of the media regarding the test.

Victorian stewards have been robust in their bid to outlaw cobalt - a performance-enhancing drug that has the same effect as EPO, a renowned blood doping drug.

"I'm devastated to be informed by Racing Victoria stewards that one of my runners has tested positive to a banned substance during the 2014 Spring Carnival," Moody said in a statement.

"I have no knowledge or understanding as to how this could occur and will work with Racing Victoria Integrity Services Department to bring this matter to a conclusion as soon as possible.

"I take great pride in my role in thoroughbred racing in Victoria and strive to manage my business and support my wonderful group of owners and staff with the highest levels of honesty and professionalism. I will continue to the goal over the next few months and do everything possible to clear my name.

"I will make no further comment until its conclusion."

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This story was found at: http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/peter-moody-to-face-stewards-over-positive-tests-20150113-12nfqj.html

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One of his horses from the spring has tested positive to Cobalt.
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I would love it if it was Dissident!!! Would explain a lot!
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You guys just don't get it. 

It was the staff in the stables fault. It was dark, early in the morning & the wrong horse was doped..................
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Blah blah blah. Of course hes not guilty. Anyone to frame a market on the excuse that will result in only a fine for him?
Also, how stupid to still be using cobalt after Darren Smith getting caught. At least other trainers stopped using it and copped the losses.
Also, Waller was protected from the media after his positive yet Moody cops it. Why was Waller protected?
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Blah blah blah. Of course hes not guilty. Anyone to frame a market on the excuse that will result in only a fine for him?
Also, how stupid to still be using cobalt after Darren Smith getting caught. At least other trainers stopped using it and copped the losses.
Also, Waller was protected from the media after his positive yet Moody cops it. Why was Waller protected?


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$1.04 that Moody doesn't get anything more than a slap on the wrist. He's not small-time enough to get a suspension.
http://https://twitter.com/MattNicholls29/status/554904310379593728

Moody excuses market
$1.20 - staff member
$2.50 - feed contamination
$8.00 - intruder
$101 - admits guilt
http://https://twitter.com/MattNicholls29/status/554904820146917377

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This is a surprise, because his team seems to be hitting form recently after a lean period. But when you are no longer the flavour of the month, you become a target. Bet two other stables are cheering this setback
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Colbalt is the most serious drug currently in Australian racing. It cannot be used for anything but performance enhancing
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Should also be noted that cobalt isn't new. It's been around for years. Australian authorities were just a bit slow off the mark.
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Originally posted by MelbourneRacing MelbourneRacing wrote:

Should also be noted that cobalt isn't new. It's been around for years. Australian authorities were just a bit slow off the mark.



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Front page on the Age website. RVL and co will be loving the exposure for racing Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by MelbourneRacing MelbourneRacing wrote:

I would love it if it was Dissident!!! Would explain a lot!



Why would it explain a lot? Because of the bleed?
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Originally posted by SYT SYT wrote:

Originally posted by MelbourneRacing MelbourneRacing wrote:

I would love it if it was Dissident!!! Would explain a lot!



Why would it explain a lot? Because of the bleed?


Would just confirm a couple of rumours that went around in the spring.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Blah blah blah. Of course hes not guilty. Anyone to frame a market on the excuse that will result in only a fine for him?
Also, how stupid to still be using cobalt after Darren Smith getting caught. At least other trainers stopped using it and copped the losses.
Also, Waller was protected from the media after his positive yet Moody cops it. Why was Waller protected?

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The Moody positive was for a horse from the Spring Carnival, and we're notified on 13th Jan.  Also, it was the Moody stable itself that informed us.  No indication that the authorities are out to get him.
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That awkward moment when you dope a horse and it runs second ...

http://rv.racing.com/news/2015-01-13/stewards-report---peter-moody

Racing Victoria Stewards have received a report from Racing Analytical Services Limited (RASL) confirming that a prohibited substance has been detected in a sample collected from the Peter Moody trained racehorse, Lidari.

The report relates to a post-race urine sample taken from Lidari when the horse finished second in the Turnbull Stakes over 2000 metres at Flemington Racecourse on Saturday, 4 October 2014.

RASL reported that the urine sample contained Cobalt (an essential mineral nutrient which affects multiple body systems and is toxic at high dosages) at a concentration in excess of 200 micrograms per litre in urine which is a prohibited substance in accordance with the  Rules of Racing.

The sample was tested at the Chem Centre in Western Australia and was confirmed by the Hong Kong Jockey Club Laboratory.

Racing Victoria Stewards have advised Mr Moody of the findings and they are continuing their investigation.


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Moody had a runner over the spring carnival...??? really...lol

things must be looking up for him.
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I think the lawyers are being bandied about. One thread already locked down.
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I think this is different from most other high profile doping case in Australia in that this is a banned substance not a non raceday treatment substance. Am also pretty sure cobalt is not something will be found in feed as a supplement. But the drug is a performance enhancer only.
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You're right on all accounts, G1S.  The only possible argument is the horse itself naturally produced more cobalt than the threshold, which I'm sure scientists can defeat with science, unless it's very close to the threshold.
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How on earth did a banned performance enhancing chemical find it's way into his horse's bloodstream...??

the mind boggles, it really doesn't.


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Hmm, no point in commenting until we know how much above 200 it was.
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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

How on earth did a banned performance enhancing chemical find it's way into his horse's bloodstream...??

the mind boggles, it really doesn't.



A horse naturally produces a small amount.  that's why there's a threshold.
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Throw the book at him. Heres your chance racing to prove its one rule for all....


Exactly.
A real test to see how fair dinkum this industry is.
Cobalt is a cheats drug.
He hasn't been found guilty yet so lets see how this unfolds.
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Originally posted by Geraldo Geraldo wrote:


Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Blah blah blah. Of course hes not guilty. Anyone to frame a market on the excuse that will result in only a fine for him?
Also, how stupid to still be using cobalt after Darren Smith getting caught. At least other trainers stopped using it and copped the losses.
Also, Waller was protected from the media after his positive yet Moody cops it. Why was Waller protected?


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The Moody positive was for a horse from the Spring Carnival, and we're notified on 13th Jan.  Also, it was the Moody stable itself that informed us.  No indication that the authorities are out to get him.



Not sure I follow you Geraldo. I didn't say anyone was out to get him.
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I don't think the horse can produce any (aka we don't make elements in our bloodstream people!) what we're suggesting is that there's a trace of this element in the hay and grain etc and I believe 200 is VERY generous; no excuse; what does the minimum penalty thing they took on say about this?
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how is cobalt administered.

injection , topical cream, nasal spray, ingested?
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