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Was never going to win today, because she knew I was on at $4.00
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I think she is overrated
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Found the right race today

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Think it's a cat but trebled it up with Boorooj and Greycliffe so here's hoping.
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I don't think she's a 'cat', rather a typical over hyped horse off the back of a couple of good wins in low grade & her rather unusual markings.
Experience is something you gain a few minutes after you could have used it!
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Hmmm thats another terrible performance from her, must have issues
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Reported on Racing.com to have died from 'foot problems'.
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Yes that's true

RIP Miss Vista
Those who know don't tell, Those who tell don't know
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Originally posted by horseshoe horseshoe wrote:

Yes that's true

RIP Miss Vista


Yes ..   Put together some top runs 12 months ago.   Sad for connections.
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Nobody deserves that. Just awful rip
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Laminitis, tried for 4 weeks to save her but in the end she was in too much pain and crying so they put her to sleep.
Karl and Susan Kennedy are my heroes
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Horrid disease.  I wish they could find a cure for this.  And I agree it would just be so hard to see her in pain and so hard to make that call.  
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Laminitis, tried for 4 weeks to save her but in the end she was in too much pain and crying so they put her to sleep.
Oh God that's sad to read......we all lose them, some are closer than others, but to witness their pain is the worst part of our job, sometimes, many times...I wonder if it's worth it.......but it is of course.
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It’s the worst part of my job, saying goodbye.
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This is the most up to date site on laminitis & treatment Smile
There must be a copyright cover as I can't copy/paste. Feel free if anyone else can Smile

http:///www.ecirhorse.org/laminitis.php

http://www.ecirhorse.org/realigning-trim.php
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getting the food/excercise balance right is critical, as is how they are spelled, and a good farrier.

good practices, observation...

it is 2018, would think leaps and bounds should have been made considering the money and research put into this area. being cynical would say, a LOT of money to be made.

just the simple act of feeling your horses feet should be a first step!




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I heard George speaking at Ballarat races yesterday, said that her case was made worse because of her skin/markings. She had always had feet issues, but this just made it so much worse. They tried some sort of heated concrete for her to sleep on, it help but in the end it got to a stage that the pain was so unbearable that the foot needed amputation, there was nothing they could do, so they said goodbye to her it , they say it was one of the worst cases of laminitis possible.
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

getting the food/excercise balance right is critical, as is how they are spelled, and a good farrier.

good practices, observation...

it is 2018, would think leaps and bounds should have been made considering the money and research put into this area. being cynical would say, a LOT of money to be made.

just the simple act of feeling your horses feet should be a first step!



Laminitis is not the death sentence it once was & for the reasons stated above but the racing industry specialists continue with their one eyed, antiquated treatment protocols.
I wonder if she even had boots with cushioned pads which is basic 1st step.
10s of 1000s of chronic & acute lammi cases have been rehabbed back to ridden work in the last 10+ years, many of which were deemed pts by vets but whose owners turned to professional rehabbers as a last resort e.g.
https://barehoofcare.com

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and that is a fundamental problem with the racing industry,

there is always another horse to replace it.
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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

getting the food/excercise balance right is critical, as is how they are spelled, and a good farrier.

good practices, observation...

it is 2018, would think leaps and bounds should have been made considering the money and research put into this area. being cynical would say, a LOT of money to be made.

just the simple act of feeling your horses feet should be a first step!



Laminitis is not the death sentence it once was & for the reasons stated above but the racing industry specialists continue with their one eyed, antiquated treatment protocols.
I wonder if she even had boots with cushioned pads which is basic 1st step.
10s of 1000s of chronic & acute lammi cases have been rehabbed back to ridden work in the last 10+ years, many of which were deemed pts by vets but whose owners turned to professional rehabbers as a last resort e.g.
https://barehoofcare.com



I can assure she received the best possible care
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Isaac I have a friend who recently retired and sold as a broodmare his little champion (good horse won stakes).  I asked if he's getting another.  His reply says alot.  No I've had a good one and could never replace her.  I think these people tried.  One way or another treatments didnt' work.  They feel horrid and nothing you could say or do could help them feel better so saying they'll just get another horse isn't right either. Some will - they are in the industry - but it won't be a replacement they wanted.  She was their little champion and they loved her.  Maybe another vet with different treatments could of helped.  Maybe not we just don't know so it's no good thinking the worst of the owners at such a sad time.
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Originally posted by furious furious wrote:

Isaac I have a friend who recently retired and sold as a broodmare his little champion (good horse won stakes).  I asked if he's getting another.  His reply says alot.  No I've had a good one and could never replace her.  I think these people tried.  One way or another treatments didnt' work.  They feel horrid and nothing you could say or do could help them feel better so saying they'll just get another horse isn't right either. Some will - they are in the industry - but it won't be a replacement they wanted.  She was their little champion and they loved her.  Maybe another vet with different treatments could of helped.  Maybe not we just don't know so it's no good thinking the worst of the owners at such a sad time.


Could not agree more. I read some comments on Racing.com and the amount of “experts” having a go at the owner/trainer etc was staggering. I saw her in her last 2 starts and she moved like a crab on the way to the gates. Obviously long term issues and I have no doubt they tried everything they possibly could, working with the advice they got. We have an almost-white horse with 3 white feet and he has similar issues, despite getting the same diet/care/farrier as all the others. I feel so sorry for her connections.
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It’s a cruel game, she was a beautiful mare. Hope she is now running around in a big green paddock up stairs enjoying herself and pain free.
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who said i was referring to the owner?
 the owner, usually, is the losing party. its very hard to find a good horse, and the owner can only be guided by the experts. 
meanwhile the trainer, vet etc can carry on with the next one, of which there will be a stable full.
ive had vets  say to me to tell the owner to get a faster one. i was appalled at his flippancy.

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I have no doubt they did everything possible to save her. She was clearly much loved.
As others have said, we have come a long way in the battle against this cruel condition, and there are many preventions and treatments now available, so when it's hopeless, it really is hopeless. And heartbreaking.

RIP Miss Vista. Condolences to her connections.
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Also interesting point re. the white legs. It seems to be a common problem with these coloured ones. Which just proves the old saying about white feet...
And BTW, for those with laminitics, I can highly recommend teff hay - it's been a lifesaver here.
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

who said i was referring to the owner?
 the owner, usually, is the losing party. its very hard to find a good horse, and the owner can only be guided by the experts. 
meanwhile the trainer, vet etc can carry on with the next one, of which there will be a stable full.
ive had vets  say to me to tell the owner to get a faster one. i was appalled at his flippancy.



Pull your head in mate
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

and that is a fundamental problem with the racing industry,

there is always another horse to replace it.

You sir are a callus jerk...Thumbs Down
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