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Jockey, @mj_payne has lost today's appeal over a Moonee Valley suspension from last Saturday. Now on the sidelines till Thurs November 13.

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Guess the judge should get another job hey Hatch. 
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winner! couldn't be happier that she's out of racing for a few meetings.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2014 at 11:29am
Every jockeys nightmare - missing cup week. Obviously the judge saw it the same way that the stewards saw it and they are in the best position to decide. The appeals board is pretty good as well I think with jockeys regularly getting reduced sentences if the stewards have got it wrong.
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Let me just get some popcorn....this should be fun!!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote djebel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2014 at 11:32am
She was suspended for two of her rides last weekend wasn't she ?

If she only had to appeal the Moonee Valley cup ride I'd suspect she'd have gone close to winning, Though I have not seen the judgement.


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djebel, pretty sure she didn't appeal the suspension for the Akavoroun ride.
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She didn't enter a plea for it, and was given 10 meetings, so best she could do was get the suspensions reduced to 10 meetings
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Originally posted by BlackKnight BlackKnight wrote:

djebel, pretty sure she didn't appeal the suspension for the Akavoroun ride.

Dead So I am completely wraa wru wrooo Sorry I just can not write it........


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Michelle Payne has lost her appeal against a careless riding charge and will miss the remainder of the Spring carnival.

Her appeal against the charge and severity of it was dismissed by the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board at a hearing which commenced at 11am on Tuesday.

Payne incurred a 20 meeting suspension for careless riding aboard Prince Of Penzance on their way to claiming the Moonee Valley Cup.

The suspension will cost Payne the ride on Prince Of Penzance who will have his next start either in the Group 2 Queen Elizabeth or if numbers fall away, the Melbourne Cup (3200m).

Prince Of Penzance incurred a 2kg penalty for last Saturday’s win and the success also saw the Pentire gelding pass the first ballot clause for the event.

Payne can return to race riding on Thursday, November 13.

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they should have fined her for wasting everyone's time .. Silence is deafening Hatch
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Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

Originally posted by BlackKnight BlackKnight wrote:

djebel, pretty sure she didn't appeal the suspension for the Akavoroun ride.

Dead So I am completely wraa wru wrooo Sorry I just can not write it........

No one has managed to write that word on this thread near as I can tell LOL
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I was wrong. She should have got cumulative penalties. Concurrent means keep knocking them over because your getting a holiday anyway.
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I have absolutely no doubt had the appeal been overturned, Hatch would have graced us with his presence by now...
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Point of legal mumbo jumbo.

It is upheld rather than overturned, subbie Smile

There is always VCAT don't forget for the last avenue.



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if chad got 30+ for his ride, michelle should be counting her lucky stars she didn't get 60.

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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

I have absolutely no doubt had the appeal been overturned, Hatch would have graced us with his presence by now...


    All good , a kick in the guts is good for us ,toughens , strengthens ,makes us better .   She has to be very greatful that the shifting horses in front of her ,not only could have brought Chad down but her as well .    Good that Chad does not blame her for his fall . Sad for her and her family that her appeal failed , but look at all the joy it has given to so many forumites here.
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Chad is so sure it was not her fault he is trying to talk her into going to VCAT.
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Originally posted by hatch hatch wrote:

Chad is so sure it was not her fault he is trying to talk her into going to VCAT.



Yeh, Chad is the best guy to talk to in this regard.....
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Originally posted by Kingyy Kingyy wrote:

winner! couldn't be happier that she's out of racing for a few meetings.


     The joy that so many of you have got out of her misfortune is something to behold , human nature.
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misfortune??? incompetent more like it!
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Originally posted by Kingyy Kingyy wrote:

misfortune??? incompetent more like it!


    You get a lot of joy out of it because you think she is incompetent ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2014 at 7:17am
I think some people get enjoyment out of it because you are giving them the sh1ts Hatch.
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I think some people get enjoyment out of it because you are giving them the sh1ts Hatch.


    I think you might be right ,   they don't like it when I ask them what was wrong with her ride on Azkadellia ,   and they are caught out , they have no idea what to say.      They say it was a terrible ride ,but cant find any sensible fault with it.    I can understand that gives them the sh.ts.
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Or more likely your inability to listen.

I love the internet.

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Rule two - don't listen to anyone else even if they give a conclusive reason

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Originally posted by hatch hatch wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I think some people get enjoyment out of it because you are giving them the sh1ts Hatch.


    I think you might be right ,   they don't like it when I ask them what was wrong with her ride on Azkadellia ,   and they are caught out , they have no idea what to say.      They say it was a terrible ride ,but cant find any sensible fault with it.    I can understand that gives them the sh.ts.
you are a deadest pickle Hatch , reread the thread and you may see a number of issues with her ride , none of which you have addressed apart from your contradictory motherhood statements .
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Originally posted by James James wrote:

I think some people get enjoyment out of it because you are giving them the sh1ts Hatch.
LOLLOL
 
Trying to reason with Hatch is like justifying hypocrisy as legitimate thought.
 
It appears as if the stewards in Victoria are trying to make a statement about "competitive riding"
whether it be from Payne,  Schofield or whoever.
What this really means is that they would like our jockeys to ride with more room between horses and don't take a gap that is marginal.     ie. think of rider and horse safety before trying to win the race.
Perhaps this is the direction stewards would like to see racing in Victoria go!!!
 
 
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But Michelle Payne is a better rider than Scobie Beasley.
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http://www.racingnetwork.com.au/mitchelton-wines-bm64-handicap/tabid/87/raceid/1234991/default.aspx

Any thoughts on this ride from Reygan Bayliss yesterday on Fire Truck At the 1200m on the head-on you can see him pull out and make contact with Bunsen Burner who then pulled out of the race.

Asked after the race did he see what happened to the favorite, he said "No, not after I shouldered him out of the way"
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Originally posted by Browndog Browndog wrote:

http://www.racingnetwork.com.au/mitchelton-wines-bm64-handicap/tabid/87/raceid/1234991/default.aspx

Any thoughts on this ride from Reygan Bayliss yesterday on Fire Truck At the 1200m on the head-on you can see him pull out and make contact with Bunsen Burner who then pulled out of the race.

Asked after the race did he see what happened to the favorite, he said "No, not after I shouldered him out of the way"

That's the rub of it isn't it BD. If they were consistent in their suspension policies there would be no jockeys available to ride. I think it is the inconsistency that gives everyone the gelatis.
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