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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Vain Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Oct 2014 at 9:20pm
I wonder what Bryan "Mumbles" Martin thought of the ride in view of his much publicised comments last week.
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He said on twitter he thought it was a great ride.

As awesome as social media can be, I must say I'm glad not to be a jockey.
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Originally posted by Off and racing Off and racing wrote:

How does Chad get rubbed out for a longer duration for something not even comparable then when Michelle only gets 20 absolute disgrace where is the consistency. Could have easily been another death. Where is the consistency, one of the worst incidents by Saturday metro races in a long time. Also Froggys ride to get Lankan in on Friday, I remember Nash getting quite a few weeks for less riding squmosa in the golden rose. These stewards are a disgrace make up your minds either let them knock them down or punish them harshly. All everyone wants is consistency. Not just hand out punishments based on how they are feeling when they get out of bed or who they pick to have a target on there back
Chad has more form than Michelle that's why there is a difference in the ban. Wasn't his last suspension for causing interference to Michelle? That's what you call a square up ladies and gentlemen
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Chad was found guilty of improper riding. Michelle was found guilty of careless riding.
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Originally posted by well_rated well_rated wrote:

What she did yesterday was shocking & poor, I also think she only rode like that because of the pasting she copped last week over a poor ride.

There was no run there, yet she pushed it out and caused a fall, 20 meetings is too little IMO


    Obviously you have not had a look at the overhead footage or Browndogs still shots on the other thread.
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This has highlighted how ridiculous the Schofield and Bowman improper riding charges were.
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 agree about the comparison between Froggy's ride and Nash on Squamosa...

 Melb stewards are weak as dishwater...

   
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Originally posted by Air Seattle Air Seattle wrote:

Chad was found guilty of improper riding. Michelle was found guilty of careless riding.


       After looking at the evidence , trainers and jockeys saying " not guilty "    One trainer who had a horse in the race said this morning, someone put a good pic on twitter showing clearly there was a run there for her.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 9:52am
Originally posted by hatch hatch wrote:

Originally posted by Air Seattle Air Seattle wrote:

Chad was found guilty of improper riding. Michelle was found guilty of careless riding.


       After looking at the evidence , trainers and jockeys saying " not guilty "    One trainer who had a horse in the race said this morning, someone put a good pic on twitter showing clearly there was a run there for her.

Guilty at the moment but see what happens at her appeal. Stewards are in the best position to make a decision and impartial wouldn't you agree Hatch?
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Originally posted by James James wrote:


Originally posted by hatch hatch wrote:

Originally posted by Air Seattle Air Seattle wrote:

Chad was found guilty of improper riding. Michelle was found guilty of careless riding.


       After looking at the evidence , trainers and jockeys saying " not guilty "    One trainer who had a horse in the race said this morning, someone put a good pic on twitter showing clearly there was a run there for her.


Guilty at the moment but see what happens at her appeal. Stewards are in the best position to make a decision and impartial wouldn't you agree Hatch?


    Yes they have the best footage ,much experience ,   but are human , and humans are capable of making mistakes ,   I think this is one of them , all we want from the Judge is justice.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Oct 2014 at 10:50am
Originally posted by hatch hatch wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:


Originally posted by hatch hatch wrote:

Originally posted by Air Seattle Air Seattle wrote:

Chad was found guilty of improper riding. Michelle was found guilty of careless riding.


       After looking at the evidence , trainers and jockeys saying " not guilty "    One trainer who had a horse in the race said this morning, someone put a good pic on twitter showing clearly there was a run there for her.


Guilty at the moment but see what happens at her appeal. Stewards are in the best position to make a decision and impartial wouldn't you agree Hatch?


    Yes they have the best footage ,much experience ,   but are human , and humans are capable of making mistakes ,   I think this is one of them , all we want from the Judge is justice.

I think the stewards would have less bias than her fellow jockeys and trainers. I also think the stewards would have far less bias than yourself Hatch.
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I agree with the last half of your post, not the first half ,   I thought she was crazy putting in an appeal, until I saw the overhead footage and that amazed me.
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Originally posted by hatch hatch wrote:

Originally posted by Air Seattle Air Seattle wrote:

Chad was found guilty of improper riding. Michelle was found guilty of careless riding.


       After looking at the evidence , trainers and jockeys saying " not guilty "    One trainer who had a horse in the race said this morning, someone put a good pic on twitter showing clearly there was a run there for her.


hahahahah you have completely lost your marbles...
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So pretty much all we can agree on, is Hatch will use the stewards when it suits him, and ignore them when it suits him, and he is the only person on TBV allowed to not agree with stewards. I could have sworn they knew everything last week, and we were goofs......yet now apparently they don't know half as much as TBV's expert on all things...
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Just found some footage of hatch and his opinion on the stewards in the last week.



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Not sure how anyone could argue that her ride was above board. There was virtually no gap for her to go through yet she still did. Pretty clear cut that's she's guilty for mine.
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That isn't what she is arguing
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It will be interesting to see the result of this hearing ,   I think she will take in some still shots , like Browndog's , that was so good of him to put on here so that all of us could look at.
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That post above is a still shot of Michelle's brain during some of her rides.
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Originally posted by Browndog Browndog wrote:

That isn't what she is arguing


Her argument is akin in credibility to that of Essenscum's saying they shouldn't be guilty as they were told to self report.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

That post above is a still shot of Michelle's brain during some of her rides.


    I would have a tiny wager that she has done a little better than you with her savings .
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Everything has to be a bet with you Hatch. Do you have a gambling problem? Do you need to borrow some money? I have some saved away if you need a lend.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Everything has to be a bet with you Hatch. Do you have a gambling problem? Do you need to borrow some money? I have some saved away if you need a lend.

    
   Thanks Subby ,   no I seldom bet, not a gambler , but on here I think no one is willing to have me on,   but would there be a bookmaker offering any odds on the result of this hearing ?
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

That post above is a still shot of Michelle's brain during some of her rides.

    
Reading your posts Subby , and listening to what she have to say , I think she is a big margin smarter than you Subby.

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Originally posted by hatch hatch wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

That post above is a still shot of Michelle's brain during some of her rides.

    
Reading your posts Subby , and listening to what she have to say , I think she is a big margin smarter than you Subby.




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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by hatch hatch wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

That post above is a still shot of Michelle's brain during some of her rides.

    
Reading your posts Subby , and listening to what she have to say , I think she is a big margin smarter than you Subby.




Nice sentence structure


    Well done , at last you have put on a sensible post.
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Michelle was sitting on the horse I backed so was happy to get the cash, but what she did was a stupid as it was dangerous - 20 meetings is light imho.
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Originally posted by norisk norisk wrote:

Michelle was sitting on the horse I backed so was happy to get the cash, but what she did was a stupid as it was dangerous - 20 meetings is light imho.


    Browndogs photos tell all, for us all to see ,    the judge has a look   "   NOT GUILTY "
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Payne to plead her case on Tuesday

By James Lamb 3 hours ago
Payne rode Prince Of Penzance to victory but incurred the wrath of stewardsPayne rode Prince Of Penzance to victory but incurred the wrath of stewards


Michelle Payne will appear before the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board on Tuesday in a bid to have her 20-meeting suspension overturned.

Racing stewards found Payne found guility of two separate careless-riding charges from Saturday's Cox Plate meeting but it is the charge stemming from the Moonee Valley Cup that Payne is disputing.

The hoop, who has been dominating racing headlines of late, was aboard eventual winner Prince Of Penzance when Chad Schofield fell from his mount Albonetti rounding the Moonee Valley home turn.

Stewards allege that Payne drove her mount in between runners when there was insufficient room to do so, causing a chain reaction which led to Albonetti clipping heels and falling. 

As it currently stands, her suspension would see her miss the entire Flemington carnival.

Her appeal is set down for 11am Tuesday morning at Racing Victoria's Flemington HQ.
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