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We already have perfectly functional, modern detention centres on Nauru and Manus Island, and they are all but empty!


At a cost of some 25 billion thus far.

   Most people who are commenting on related subjects, were not around or had Family paying a terrible price of war.   Have no idea of the horrors.

If they knew a little on what they comment on , they would be supporting Border Control with their life if necessary.
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Melbourne is officially a War Zone.

You got people being stabbed in the neck.
A leading restaurateur laying facedown dead in the main street.

Cars ramming down people, including children, killing and injuring dozens.

Plots to massacre hundreds, if not thousands, in the CBD.

The question is, how is that "not" a war zone?
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Melbourne is officially a War Zone.

You got people being stabbed in the neck.
A leading restaurateur laying facedown dead in the main street.

Cars ramming down people, including children, killing and injuring dozens.

Plots to massacre hundreds, if not thousands, in the CBD.

The question is, how is that "not" a war zone?

A brave Muslim security guard named Shadi, who tried to protect other people until his bleeding got too much for him.

Will probably get a well deserved bravery award.

How awkward. Embarrassed
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Hey Brooke, was Melbourne also a war zone when Carl William's gang and the Moran crew were busy trying to kill each other and anyone else who encrouched on their business areas?
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Hey Brooke, was Melbourne also a war zone when Carl William's gang and the Moran crew were busy trying to kill each other and anyone else who encrouched on their business areas?

Not a good comparison. Gangland violence doesn't see children in prams being targets.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Hey Brooke, was Melbourne also a war zone when Carl William's gang and the Moran crew were busy trying to kill each other and anyone else who encrouched on their business areas?

Not a good comparison. Gangland violence doesn't see children in prams being targets.

They were driven by a different god, and for all of the mayhem, there was rarely a random innocent infidel targeted.

The Islamic one seems a bit nasty to me ... just sayin'
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

Melbourne is officially a War Zone.

You got people being stabbed in the neck.
A leading restaurateur laying facedown dead in the main street.

Cars ramming down people, including children, killing and injuring dozens.

Plots to massacre hundreds, if not thousands, in the CBD.

The question is, how is that "not" a war zone?

A brave Muslim security guard named Shadi, who tried to protect other people until his bleeding got too much for him.

Will probably get a well deserved bravery award.

How awkward. Embarrassed

Was Shadi one of the 400+ who we have to keep under constant surveillance? ... or one of the thousands we lack the resources to keep under surveillance, like Hassan Khalif Shire Ali, who stabbed him?

If not, awkward how, you lying hypocrite?Confused ... surely he deserves recognition for his bravery? 

He will of course likely be ostracised by Sheik Mohammed Omram and the Islamic Terrorists who infest his North Melbourne Mosque, if he is a Muslim.Embarrassed
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Hey Brooke, was Melbourne also a war zone when Carl William's gang and the Moran crew were busy trying to kill each other and anyone else who encrouched on their business areas?

Not a good comparison. Gangland violence doesn't see children in prams being targets.


Well there was Michael Marshall who was executed in South Yarra in front of his 5 year old son, allegedly done to cover up the fact that Carl Williams had allegedly had another guy knocked off who turned out to be an associate of Tony Mockbell, Mockbell believed Marshall had done it and so Williams had him knocked off before Marshall could say anything.

Also lets not forget Jason Moran and his mate, executed in front of plenty of children at a Saturday morning Auskick clinic.

And the numerous others killed in their yards, in pubs or in the streets with innocent civilians in the vicinity.

Yes the hitmen may have been targeting specific people but it was still in the vicinity of the general public, don't kid yourself that the recent events in Melbourne are worse.
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Hey Brooke, was Melbourne also a war zone when Carl William's gang and the Moran crew were busy trying to kill each other and anyone else who encrouched on their business areas?

Not a good comparison. Gangland violence doesn't see children in prams being targets.


Well there was Michael Marshall who was executed in South Yarra in front of his 5 year old son, allegedly done to cover up the fact that Carl Williams had allegedly had another guy knocked off who turned out to be an associate of Tony Mockbell, Mockbell believed Marshall had done it and so Williams had him knocked off before Marshall could say anything.

Also lets not forget Jason Moran and his mate, executed in front of plenty of children at a Saturday morning Auskick clinic.

And the numerous others killed in their yards, in pubs or in the streets with innocent civilians in the vicinity.

Yes the hitmen may have been targeting specific people but it was still in the vicinity of the general public, don't kid yourself that the recent events in Melbourne are worse.

          Are you for real .

Think about a few things like 9/11
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9/11?

What nationality were most of the terrorists involved?
Which nationalities are barred from USA ?
Why the disparity between the lists?
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Sorry for embarrassing you Doc. Come on, you are itching to post, I promise I will not count your posts LOL
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Dont confuse them with logic and facts Rusty.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Hey Brooke, was Melbourne also a war zone when Carl William's gang and the Moran crew were busy trying to kill each other and anyone else who encrouched on their business areas?

Not a good comparison. Gangland violence doesn't see children in prams being targets.


Well there was Michael Marshall who was executed in South Yarra in front of his 5 year old son, allegedly done to cover up the fact that Carl Williams had allegedly had another guy knocked off who turned out to be an associate of Tony Mockbell, Mockbell believed Marshall had done it and so Williams had him knocked off before Marshall could say anything.

Also lets not forget Jason Moran and his mate, executed in front of plenty of children at a Saturday morning Auskick clinic.

And the numerous others killed in their yards, in pubs or in the streets with innocent civilians in the vicinity.

Yes the hitmen may have been targeting specific people but it was still in the vicinity of the general public, don't kid yourself that the recent events in Melbourne are worse.

          Are you for real .

Think about a few things like 9/11


What what? Your drawing a comparison between a coordinated attack involving the hijacking of 4 commercial airliners and flying them into various buildings and 1 guy going crazy with a knife in the Melbourne CBD, c'mon Maxie don't be so ignorant as to draw this line to excuse your dislike of people who are different from yourself.
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Exactly Afros.

And talking about Trump's best mates the Saudi's, there's one essential difference between 9/11 and the highly planned and delivered execution of Jamal Khashoggi in its Turkish embassy: the 9/11 murderers didn't require a surgeon and his bone saw.


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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Hey Brooke, was Melbourne also a war zone when Carl William's gang and the Moran crew were busy trying to kill each other and anyone else who encrouched on their business areas?

Not a good comparison. Gangland violence doesn't see children in prams being targets.


Well there was Michael Marshall who was executed in South Yarra in front of his 5 year old son, allegedly done to cover up the fact that Carl Williams had allegedly had another guy knocked off who turned out to be an associate of Tony Mockbell, Mockbell believed Marshall had done it and so Williams had him knocked off before Marshall could say anything.

Also lets not forget Jason Moran and his mate, executed in front of plenty of children at a Saturday morning Auskick clinic.

And the numerous others killed in their yards, in pubs or in the streets with innocent civilians in the vicinity.

Yes the hitmen may have been targeting specific people but it was still in the vicinity of the general public, don't kid yourself that the recent events in Melbourne are worse.

          Are you for real .

Think about a few things like 9/11


What what? Your drawing a comparison between a coordinated attack involving the hijacking of 4 commercial airliners and flying them into various buildings and 1 guy going crazy with a knife in the Melbourne CBD, c'mon Maxie don't be so ignorant as to draw this line to excuse your dislike of people who are different from yourself.

How can you accuse me of disliking people who are different to myself .
   Give me an example ...        Or an apology
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[/QUOTE] How can you accuse me of disliking people who are different to myself .
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That is a good one Macca, your best joke so far Thumbs Up
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That is a good one Macca, your best joke so far Thumbs Up
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Your not different to me Whale .   AND I don't really dislike you .

Afros won't give an example , rest assured .
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Wait for it , he's a thief , wanted by police , maybe he should of stayed low key on the day and people may be regretting their donations soon.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Hey Brooke, was Melbourne also a war zone when Carl William's gang and the Moran crew were busy trying to kill each other and anyone else who encrouched on their business areas?

Not a good comparison. Gangland violence doesn't see children in prams being targets.


Well there was Michael Marshall who was executed in South Yarra in front of his 5 year old son, allegedly done to cover up the fact that Carl Williams had allegedly had another guy knocked off who turned out to be an associate of Tony Mockbell, Mockbell believed Marshall had done it and so Williams had him knocked off before Marshall could say anything.

Also lets not forget Jason Moran and his mate, executed in front of plenty of children at a Saturday morning Auskick clinic.

And the numerous others killed in their yards, in pubs or in the streets with innocent civilians in the vicinity.

Yes the hitmen may have been targeting specific people but it was still in the vicinity of the general public, don't kid yourself that the recent events in Melbourne are worse.

          Are you for real .

Think about a few things like 9/11


What what? Your drawing a comparison between a coordinated attack involving the hijacking of 4 commercial airliners and flying them into various buildings and 1 guy going crazy with a knife in the Melbourne CBD, c'mon Maxie don't be so ignorant as to draw this line to excuse your dislike of people who are different from yourself.

How can you accuse me of disliking people who are different to myself .
   Give me an example ...        Or an apology


You've been on the anti-Islamic train for some time old boy.

The average Australian is a greater chance of being murdered by a current or former partner, of dieing via animal attack be it snake, crocodile, shark or any other animal, hitting a loose cow on the road, of being killed falling of a ladder out of bed or off a chair, of being killed by a coward punch and let not forget heat waves, choking on food, alcohol poisoning or even drowning in the bath. All of these have claimed more Australian lives on Australian soil over the last couple decades than terrorist attacks have.

Yet you, Doc and others keep banging on about the great threat of Islam on our culture and our lives, pretty obvious why one could form the opinion you just don't like people who are different to yourself.
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Afros ..    You state you formed an opinion.
That is a guess , not confirmation.
Radical Islam is a concern around the world , not only on TBV.
The only difference between myself and a Muslim is a religious difference.

   "Old Boy" aye , makes me wiser than you and I believe , You and I are different .        I'm sane.     
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Sorry for embarrassing you Doc. Come on, you are itching to post, I promise I will not count your posts LOL

It's OK Whale, I don't feel all that special, even though you ARE my favourite stalker.

... but it's not just me, you are an embarrassment to humanity.Embarrassed
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Dont confuse them with logic and facts Rusty.

Oh dear ... in the same sentence?.LOLLOLLOL

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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Hey Brooke, was Melbourne also a war zone when Carl William's gang and the Moran crew were busy trying to kill each other and anyone else who encrouched on their business areas?

Not a good comparison. Gangland violence doesn't see children in prams being targets.


Well there was Michael Marshall who was executed in South Yarra in front of his 5 year old son, allegedly done to cover up the fact that Carl Williams had allegedly had another guy knocked off who turned out to be an associate of Tony Mockbell, Mockbell believed Marshall had done it and so Williams had him knocked off before Marshall could say anything.

Also lets not forget Jason Moran and his mate, executed in front of plenty of children at a Saturday morning Auskick clinic.

And the numerous others killed in their yards, in pubs or in the streets with innocent civilians in the vicinity.

Yes the hitmen may have been targeting specific people but it was still in the vicinity of the general public, don't kid yourself that the recent events in Melbourne are worse.

          Are you for real .

Think about a few things like 9/11


What what? Your drawing a comparison between a coordinated attack involving the hijacking of 4 commercial airliners and flying them into various buildings and 1 guy going crazy with a knife in the Melbourne CBD, c'mon Maxie don't be so ignorant as to draw this line to excuse your dislike of people who are different from yourself.

How can you accuse me of disliking people who are different to myself .
   Give me an example ...        Or an apology


You've been on the anti-Islamic train for some time old boy.

The average Australian is a greater chance of being murdered by a current or former partner, of dieing via animal attack be it snake, crocodile, shark or any other animal, hitting a loose cow on the road, of being killed falling of a ladder out of bed or off a chair, of being killed by a coward punch and let not forget heat waves, choking on food, alcohol poisoning or even drowning in the bath. All of these have claimed more Australian lives on Australian soil over the last couple decades than terrorist attacks have.

Yet you, Doc and others keep banging on about the great threat of Islam on our culture and our lives, pretty obvious why one could form the opinion you just don't like people who are different to yourself.

I like to give you as much leeway as possible Afros, because I feel that you are a rung above the other mini mes on the evolutionary ladder, and capable of taking on challenging concepts, listening to the facts, and arriving at reasoned conclusions.

... and then you disappoint me with gelati like this.Ouch

So there is NO threat, in your opinion to Australian citizens from Radical Islamic Terror?

So it is a waste of taxpayer money, in your opinion, to spend BILLIONS of Dollars keeping over 400 KNOWN Radical Islamists under constant surveillance, even though that action has STOPPED dozens of Terrorist attacks over the past few years?

Well the good thing is, you have some well informed supporters, like Waleed Aly, and Ann Aly, and now, none other than Australia's Grand Mufti! ... you know, the guy who blames women for being raped, refuses to learn to speak ENGLISH, although he has lived here for 20 years ...  interesting that they all have one thing in common these people (apart from being cup cakes!)

Yes, people like you and your mates ARE different to me, and Yes, I do not like you ... but then, I just don't tend to like fcuked up people ... guilty as charged your honour!Big smile

Australia's most senior Muslim cleric blames the government for Melbourne attack – and accuses ministers of encouraging MORE terrorism

  • Grand Mufti Ibrahim Abu Mohamed blamed government for Melbourne terror
  • Australia's most senior Sunni cleric accused ministers of encouraging extremism
  • His sentiments are identical to spiritual head of the Hume Islamic Youth Centre 
  • Hardline Sunni mosque attended by Somali-born terrorist Hassan Khalif Shire Ali
  • Australia's most senior Sunni Muslim cleric has blamed the federal government for Melbourne's Bourke Street terrorist attack and accused cabinet ministers of encouraging more terrorism.
  • Grand Mufti Ibrahim Abu Mohamed said Somali immigrant Hassan Khalif Shire Ali's Friday afternoon knife rampage was a reflection on Australia's security agencies.

    He called on Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton to 'open an investigation in his department' after Italian-born cafe owner Sisto Malaspina was stabbed to death in a terrorist attack that also injured two other men.

  • Australias most senior Sunni Muslim cleric (Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohamed pictured) has blamed the federal government for Melbournes Bourke Street terrorist attack

  • ^ this guy shares your views Afros - he is a cup cake.

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PS - Afros, in your nonsensical rant, you mention a lot of gangland murders, where NO children in prams were targeted - you stupidly confirm maccas point for him and then claim the higher moral ground for your Radical Islamic cup cake Mates, who actually DO target women and children in prams, and use them as human shields as well! ... could you be more help to him in making his point? ... some of you mini mes are truly fcuking amazing!!Wacko
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I disappointed you Doc, oh no! Soare me the shame! (Difficult to show sarcasm via text but thats the intention)

I actually support our armed forces snd police working to keep Australians safe but this Islamic terror threat is overplayed by some to drum up fear and harness that into votes. If anything throwing billions at trying to stop attacks also risks marginalizing Muslims from the rest of society causing social friction and increasing the chance one of these people will do something out of spite.

So what the gangland killers were all pure and clean in your eyes because they only targeted each other? I bet the women and children who witnessed some of the killings, some involving their own family members, would find it hard to agree.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Afros ..    You state you formed an opinion.
That is a guess , not confirmation.
Radical Islam is a concern around the world , not only on TBV.
The only difference between myself and a Muslim is a religious difference.

   "Old Boy" aye , makes me wiser than you and I believe , You and I are different .        I'm sane.     


'I know you are you said you are but what am I'

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Melbourne is officially a War Zone.

You got people being stabbed in the neck.
A leading restaurateur laying facedown dead in the main street.

Cars ramming down people, including children, killing and injuring dozens.

Plots to massacre hundreds, if not thousands, in the CBD.

The question is, how is that "not" a war zone?


Redemption in  Melbourne yesterday LOL

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The only comparison similar to Gangland warfare and Islamist terrorism, is they are both thugs and total morons.


There was a Muslim in a nearby shop in Bourke Street on the weekend, in front of cameras, declared the muslim terrorist, "a murderer, an idiot, and not what Muslims are meant to be about".

Now THATS a Muslim worthy of award and recognition.
Dont hear those words coming from Waleed Aly.
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Over $140,00 raised for Trolley Man LOL

Police investigate link between Bourke St 'trolley man' and burglaries 


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Will Trolley man get his $140000 and still counting.

After his attempt to help Police they should have arrested him without publicity.
Might have had him turn over a new leaf .. Until he was broke again anyway
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