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Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

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Thanks for contributing NOTHING again.Clap

What exactly are you trying to conflate now?Confused

Forget tax, we've established you know nothing about the realities of that.

What was that about the Australian economy again? How is it travelling and when do you expect it to collapse under the weight of solar and wind?

Worst piece of deflection ever!LOLLOLLOL

"Forget tax" ... is that because you are so lost on the subject, and everything you raise is meaningless drivel with holes like Swiss Cheese in it?Embarrassed ... i know that you think All TAX IS GOOD, and THE MORE THE BETTER, but listen, try earning some and see how you feel! ... maybe you won't be so envious of anybody who is doing better than you, and realise that they are not all cheating, lying, child raping PUERILE FWITTED MORONS! Wink

... btw, can you tell us how much tax TESLA pays? ... you know Elon Musk, the Snake Oil Salesman who has conned South Australia out of more taxpayer funds ... do you know how much tax his company pays? ... what? ... NO! ... NOT ZERO!!! ... how could that be???Embarrassed
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Sorry to press the point but I missed the bit about how the economy is travelling ("in the real world") and when you expect it to collapse under the weight of wind/solar energy. 

Did you put the answer in white text on a white background, wasn't the question simple enough,  or did my impertinence put you into such a rage you simply forgot - again? Take your time.
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Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

Sorry to press the point but I missed the bit about how the economy is travelling ("in the real world") and when you expect it to collapse under the weight of wind/solar energy. 

Did you put the answer in white text on a white background, wasn't the question simple enough,  or did my impertinence put you into such a rage you simply forgot - again? Take your time.

Really? ... I would have expected you to be working on your apology ... if you had any character whatsoever ... no?Stern Smile

Gotta say, I do love your enthusiasm, BUT, try and understand Economics 101 first ... if you don't "get" tax, I have no chance of schooling you on everything else that is important in life!Ermm
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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So we can take it that like most of your guff the "killing the economy" comment was hyperbolic nonsense not "real life"? 

Like the 700% claims, and your implied knowledge of climate science?

You seem to think these questions must be avoided at all costs. They aren't traps, and I haven't embedded a virus to kill your computer if that's adding to your paranoia.
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Originally posted by 3blindmice 3blindmice wrote:

So we can take it that like most of your guff the "killing the economy" comment was hyperbolic nonsense not "real life"? 

Like the 700% claims, and your implied knowledge of climate science?

You seem to think these questions must be avoided at all costs. They aren't traps, and I haven't embedded a virus to kill your computer if that's adding to your paranoia.
I thought you were a good deflector ... you are not.

You're out of your depth in all areas aren't you!

Learn to say sorry.

Learn what 30% of nothing equals.

Only then can we progress you past Comic-Con.
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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If irony was valuable you'd be able to afford to end those poor pensioners some money for their electricity bills.

We knew long ago that the emperor had no clothes, just needed you to demonstrate it as starkly as possible to your sycophants.


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Small steps for you.
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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You worked it out? Good for you. It probably seems a long way away at the moment but adulthood comes to those who wait - physically speaking of course.
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I'll put in the right thread (from Climate Change). Hey PT - thoughts about Keating praising Trumps leadership - in particular foreign policy - & bagging Obamas. 3bm might be able to help you - he's a genius on Keating (according to him)

Do you know what he was saying?

I will give you a clue, 

Obama- Pivot To Asia Policy, Keating-globalist, pro China. 
 
How is Donny going in Syria, after his first action as President was firing missiles in Syria, or Yemen? How is Afghanistan going? Taliban got full control with Russian backing? Read Keating's last paragraph
 


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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

I'll put in the right thread (from Climate Change). Hey PT - thoughts about Keating praising Trumps leadership - in particular foreign policy - & bagging Obamas. 3bm might be able to help you - he's a genius on Keating (according to him)

Do you know what he was saying?

I will give you a clue, 

Obama- Pivot To Asia Policy, Keating-globalist, pro China. 
 
How is Donny going in Syria, after his first action as President was firing missiles in Syria, or Yemen? How is Afghanistan going? Taliban got full control with Russian backing? Read Keating's last paragraph
 


Well all the commentary I'm reading seems to suggest Keating is saying Trump is doing a fair job in foreign policy. Better than Bush, Obama & Hillary if she had been elected. So you don't think he is saying that PT ? I'm not arguing whether he is correct or not - I'll leave that to blokes like you. I just think its funny he is saying it - right up the nose of a few.
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In relation to China only. Did you read the article?

It is only a few months since he bagged Turnbull for interfering in China and not acknowledging their ascendancy Keating's praise of Trump's foreign policy is about Trump not engaging, and reversing Obama's pivot to Asia to contain China.
Keating also knows the way to manipulate Trump is to praise him. Look at what Kimmy is doing right now.

Paul Keating has mocked the Turnbull government’s “barren’’ foreign policy, which he says seeks to contain China and ignores predictions its economy will be double that of the US within 20 years.

“The foreign policy of Australia is the foreign policy of the US,” the former prime minister said yesterday. “And the US has no policy on China as it hasn’t been able to conceive of one.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/foreign-affairs/coalitions-china-policyis-barren-paul-keating-declares/news-story/44a2f9b237a20cc283e3546d2dc51bea



If the foreign policy of Australia is the foreign policy is the foreign policy of the US, why is our policy barren and the US great? That doesn't follow, does it?

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

In relation to China only. Did you read the article?

It is only a few months since he bagged Turnbull for interfering in China and not acknowledging their ascendancy Keating's praise of Trump's foreign policy is about Trump not engaging, and reversing Obama's pivot to Asia to contain China.
Keating also knows the way to manipulate Trump is to praise him. Look at what Kimmy is doing right now.

Paul Keating has mocked the Turnbull government’s “barren’’ foreign policy, which he says seeks to contain China and ignores predictions its economy will be double that of the US within 20 years.

“The foreign policy of Australia is the foreign policy of the US,” the former prime minister said yesterday. “And the US has no policy on China as it hasn’t been able to conceive of one.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/foreign-affairs/coalitions-china-policyis-barren-paul-keating-declares/news-story/44a2f9b237a20cc283e3546d2dc51bea



If the foreign policy of Australia is the foreign policy is the foreign policy of the US, why is our policy barren and the US great? That doesn't follow, does it?


Russia all over again. A very easy mark.
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A big game of ''hold my beer'' for foreign leaders playing Trump.
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Is there a composite image of Trump administration senior staff/appointees who have been sacked for not curtsying or departed in shame/frustration yet? Like the one you posted for Turnbull/Abbott?
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More impact with pics, names and red crosses. Are Democrat supporters that blase or can't they keep up?
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I can't find one I had one a few weeks ago.
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Turnbull Liberals doomed while conservatism in crisis

Paul Kelly, The Australian March 10th 2018

Conservatives in the Anglo democracies are confused, divided and mainly in retreat. The meaning of conservatism is now riddled with disputation. Conservatives fight over whether Donald Trump is saviour or demon, whether Brexit is a calamity or a liberation and whether the Turnbull government deserves to be saved or denounced.

In Australia there is not a single leader among the six premiers and Prime Minister who is a self-declared conservative. The triumph conservatives enjoyed with Tony Abbott’s 2013 victory has surrendered to frustration under Malcolm Turnbull, who is not a conservative and shuns the label.

President Trump brings the conservative dilemma to a peak. Many applaud him for defeating Hillary Clinton and are seduced by his success — yet Trump champions ideas that violate traditional conservatism. Witness his blowing the US budget deficit by $US1.5 trillion in his tax cut package and this week’s protectionist lurch, with his tariff policy denounced across the world, including by Reserve Bank governor Philip Lowe as “highly regrettable and bad”.

What do conservatives believe in 2018? Are they for massive public deficits and debt, or governments that pay their way? Are they for unilateral protectionism or a global free trade order? Do they, like Trump, favour quitting the Paris climate change accords or sticking by this global pact of 175 nations? Do they want a US president capable of extolling the values of liberal democracy and freedom against the rival Chinese model of state capitalism and dictatorial repression? Do they want leadership that respects women and shuns racist wedges, or are they unfazed by insults to women and racist political ploys?

Elected as a Republican, Trump is a pro-business populist nationalist who is a killing agent for traditional conservative norms. His success heralds the rise of a destructive populism that in the guise of revitalisation threatens to poison mainstream conservatism. But it is not just Trump who poses such fundamental questions. They are being put at home across the centre-right of Australian politics.

Turnbull’s 2015 removal of Abbott was driven by electoral alarm and self-interest by MPs, but its progressive character was potent. Conservatives are thinner along the corridors of power, yet their frustration is driving a pent-up ideological purpose. The Liberal Party now suffers the sharpest rivalry for a generation between conservatives and progressives.

This risks becoming a dagger at its heart: it damages the Turnbull government and the threat exists of a serious convulsion after any election defeat next year. This is not just about personalities. It goes to rising differences over core Liberal and centre-right belief.

Conservatism is consumed by confusion over its principles and purpose. It is fragmenting in party terms — witness the Coalition bleeding votes to Hanson’s One Nation and Cory Bernardi’s Australian Conservatives. With John Howard long gone, it is devoid of any authority figure in office able to hold the movement together and retain it within the party. Abbott remains its figurehead with the faithful but his internal standing has nosedived.

The upshot is that the conservative movement in this country has no organisational structure, no agreed agenda or strategic mission, it features rival leadership contenders, crisscrosses the Coalition, pulls in a few celebrities, falls for the false mantra from its media champions and seizes up any grassroots eruptions of support from the suburbs and regions. This is not a winning formula.

Conservatives suffer from serious tactical ineptitude and misread public opinion. The array of prescriptions they demand from the Turnbull government — such as quitting the Paris accords, pitting coal against renewables, ditching Gonski funding, revisiting the National Disability Insurance Scheme and achieving small government with a new round of spending cuts — might delight conservatives but constitutes a package for guaranteed electoral suicide. No government would entertain it.

Many of these issues are legacies from battle that conservatives have already lost with current public opinion. Conservatives in Australia, far more than in the US or Britain, have almost no cultural power, little institutional power and have suffered near-annihilation in schools and universities.

The cultural ascendancy of the progressives has been a long and turbulent 40-year story originating with Gough Whitlam. The personal success of Howard as PM for 11 years merely disguised the extent to which progressives were taking control of institutions.

The three institutions that long sustained conservative sentiment in Australia have been transformed — the church, the family and the business sector. The church, notably the Catholic Church, long the conservative sheet anchor, is discredited, with its influence in eclipse; the traditional family structure with its values has surrendered to the “modern” family on the new norm that one type of family is as valid as another; and the business community, more pluralistic but unpopular, has abandoned financial support for the Coalition and, desperate to purchase credibility, presents as an agent of social and environmental change while singularly inept at selling an economic reform message.

Amid this political and cultural turbulence, former Liberal Party federal director Brian Loughnane has warned that restoration of unity on the centre-right — the condition that underwrote Howard’s success — is essential for Turnbull’s re-election.

Such unity is unlikely as de facto political warfare between the progressive and conservative rank and file only intensifies. It would be equally wrong, however, to think progressive ideology is the solution for the Liberal Party or Turnbull government. The notion of “modernising” the Liberal Party with progressive ideas only guarantees the fracture of voters on the right, a process now far advanced. Hanson is the beneficiary at present but other breakaways on the right will emerge.

The test for the Liberals is: can such fragmentation be contained or does it inevitably arise from the social and cultural forces being unleashed that have their most powerful demonstration in the Trump presidency? Trump’s success has ignited conservative energy, breakaways and populist revolts around the world.

The Howard formula of a Liberal Party that unites both the conservative and liberal traditions seems lost these days, a victim of turbulence in the political system and social transformation. Put another way, the ultimate question is whether Howard’s successful party model can be reconstructed or whether it has been terminated by social change.

In the US and Australia today the idea of a common culture is eroding. Ultimately, this threatens both sides of both politics — Liberal and Labor — since their ability to hold together a majority coalition of voters across shared values becomes harder if not impos­sible. It is a bottom-up revolution that has a long way yet to run.

The American conservative writer Yuval Levin described this process in his 2016 book The Fractured Republic: “Our culture has been moved by an increasingly individualistic ideal and so by a drive for greater distinction, more customisation and the elevation of personal choice and identity.

“The highest rated television program of the 1950s, I Love Lucy, earned a 67.3 Nielsen rating … in 1953. This meant that roughly 67 per cent of active television sets in the country were tuned to the program. By contrast, the highest rated program of the current decade, Sunday Night Football, maxed out at a 14.8 rating in 2014.

“The idea that the publication of a new novel by a leading author or the latest production by a noted playwright would be a huge cultural moment … now seems impossibly quaint. Such moments matter to the subcultures in which they emerge, but there is barely a mainstream culture at all to receive them.

“The internet has been developing in our time in ways perfectly suited to advance this process of fragmentation …

“As each of us is encouraged by our culture, economy and politics to be more like our individual selves, we are naturally inclined to recoil from any demands that we conform to the requirements of some external moral standard — a set of rules that keeps ‘me’ from being ‘the real me’.”

This stretches to breaking point Edmund Burke’s concept of conservatism as a contract to transit time-honoured values and traditions: “It is a partnership in all science; a partnership in all art; a partnership in every virtue … it becomes a partnership not only between those who are living but between those who are living, those who are dead and those who are to born.”

This cannot apply to a society where individuals practise “living my truth” with as much emotion as possible — emotion now widely accepted as proof of sincerity. As our shared moral culture recedes, it is replaced by individuals being true to themselves and having the “courage” to reveal their authentic self to all and sundry.

The issue for conservatism has been its paralysis before this gobsmacking rise in individual expressionism and its violation of Christian views of human nature. The first warning signs came from the pro-market economic-based individualism of the 1980s and then in the culturally based individualism of the past 20 years.

The crisis of conservatism is a moral crisis. This has been apparent since the 90s in Australia, and the inability of conservatives to recognise and respond has been remarkable. Warning about the unpopularity of necessary economic reform after the loss of the 1993 election dominated by the Liberal Party’s free-market Fightback! agenda, the leader of the “dries” John Hyde said: “What Liberals must do is explain these policies in moral terms: in terms of the liberty of workers, of a fair shake for unprotected industry, of justice for all and compassion for the needy.”

They failed. Reflect 20 years later on the inability of today’s Liberal Party to explain its policies in moral terms. From budget repair to inequality to climate change to same-sex marriage, the progressives win because they make a moral appeal — witness their campaigns around the need for compassion and fairness, egalitarian­ism, saving the planet and marriage equality. These became moral crusades.

This is to justify neither their policies nor their arguments but to make the essential point that progressives typically tie their stance to a moral position. It is part of their cultural DNA. The conservatives, by contrast, are exposed in moral terms. They lack the intellectual depth and the language to persuade others of the merits of their position.

The irony is that while conservatives obsessed over the decline of religion, progressives devised arguments based on secular morality. Just because the shared culture and religion of the nation is disintegrating doesn’t mean that morality is irrelevant. Morality always matters — the political contest over morality is pivotal and the conservatives mainly lose it.

Conservatives despise what they see as the phony morality of progressives. But that doesn’t count. What counts are the moral arguments conservatives have fail­ed to mount with sufficient persuasion. The list of battles they have lost is impressive or frightening, depending on your viewpoint.

In recent times conservatives have lost out over free speech and section 18C of the Racial Discrimination Act, spending cuts, opposition to creeping higher taxes, smaller government, less state regulation, trade union powers, industrial relations reform and jobs, same-sex marriage, union amalgamation, renewable energy, superannuation fund transparency and resistance to the Gonski model. They may lose the battle over the Adani coalmine and the defining contest over religious freedom.

This is not to deny substantial victories on border protection and national sovereignty, national security laws, the first phase of corporate tax cuts, better policing of the industrial relations system and a series of budget measures to restrain the deficit.

The failure of conservatism today is on vivid display when contrasted with Howard, a ruthless pragmatist. He surprised his opponents and the progressive class by turning his interpretation of conservatism into a weapon of political attack and electoral gain — yes, electoral gain.

The grounds on which he fought told the story — gun laws, national sovereignty by halting unauthorised arrivals, national security, social conservatism seen in family tax benefits, mutual obligation and individual responsibility, consumer choice and middle-class self-improvement, a social concept that popularised the “mainstream mob” against either elites or minorities, depending on the need, and a cultural agenda that spanned the patriotism of the Anzac legend, the bush ethos and monarchical stability.

There are three lessons from the Howard era that remain highly relevant. First, conservatism, like all movements, is lost without a leader whose task is to reinterpret the movement for the times and who delivers by exercising power. Second, it is a mistake to present conservatism as a rigid ideology, since that triggers the scepticism of the Australian public, but rather to frame initiatives as being practical, based in common sense, values and in the public interest.

Third, conservatism’s success depends on tactical political judgment. Howard, for example, never restored knighthoods as PM nor would he have given a knighthood to the Duke of Edinburgh.

On the other hand, Howard as PM would have launched a high-profile national campaign against the Safe Schools program promoting gender and sexual diversity in schools, a campaign the current Liberal government declined to launch while insisting on reforms.

In short, don’t fight battles you are destined to lose. By picking battles you can win, your cause wins traction, prestige and more followers. Too many conservatives today break the Howard rules — they run on the wrong issues with implausible arguments, fail to persuade, delude themselves into thinking the silent majority is with them, and get shot down when the contest becomes serious.

The Liberal Party will not succeed while conservatism remains in crisis. Conservatism is too integral to the heart and soul of the party.

If Turnbull believes his mission is to prove the Liberal Party can succeed essentially as a progressive entity, that project is doomed to fail as well.

An analysis, however, of Turnbull’s policies suggest that he seeks to govern from the centre; the problem with Turnbull is that he remains a transactional rather than conviction politician, weak in defining the terms of engagement against Labor and in projecting a clear message to middle Australia about living standards and values.

The 2019 election assumes a double meaning. It will determine not only whether the Turnbull government survives into a third term but also the future of the progressive-conservative power balance in the party, and whether the party stabilises or sinks into a full-blown crisis of identity.

The irony is that Labor, if it comes to power, will confront from opening day the demoralising social, economic and cultural forces that have played havoc with the Coalition.

There is no immunity for any government any more. Labor in office will reveal the equally lethal dilemma this time of a trade union/progressive party trying to hold together a fragile coalition of voters in an age of extreme individual self-expression.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/turnbull-liberals-doomed-while-conservatism-in-crisis/news-story/68cbd0e9603b745b9b36486ef645ba74


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they run on the wrong issues with implausible arguments, fail to persuade, delude themselves into thinking the silent majority is with them, and get shot down when the contest becomes serious.
Hillary was no Conservative but failed exactly due to the above comment. Works for both sides.
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“The highest rated television program of the 1950s, I Love Lucy, earned a 67.3 Nielsen rating … in 1953. This meant that roughly 67 per cent of active television sets in the country were tuned to the program. By contrast, the highest rated program of the current decade, Sunday Night Football, maxed out at a 14.8 rating in 2014.

“The idea that the publication of a new novel by a leading author or the latest production by a noted playwright would be a huge cultural moment … now seems impossibly quaint. Such moments matter to the subcultures in which they emerge, but there is barely a mainstream culture at all to receive them.

 
 
Misleading/wrong on both counts. How many viewing options were there in the 50's compared to the hundreds of channels plus online streaming options available now? You simply cannot compare the two periods. As for the idea that the publication of a new novel culminating in a huge cultural moment being "impossibly quaint" such occurrences are rare but they do happen. J.K.Rowling, Dan Brown and even E.L.James have managed enormous global impact in recent years.  Playwrights like Trey Parker and Matt Stone have done fairly well too.
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hmmm ... he appears to be "draining the swamp" CNNPT! ... that has a familiar ring to it?Approve ... oh that's right, just following through on yet another election promise! 

That must be upsetting for you, finding that he is so honest, and successful ... better vilify him as a racist or a homophobe or somefin' ... QUICK BEFORE THE NEXT POLLS COME OUT!!!LOLLOLLOL
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Keep up Doc, that is a partial list of HIS APPOINTEES that have either left in disgrace or frustration, turnrd special councel witness, under investigation themselves or been sacked, cause he hires only the best people. Ouch 
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Image result for trump administration departures

hmmm ... he appears to be "draining the swamp" CNNPT! ... that has a familiar ring to it?Approve ... oh that's right, just following through on yet another election promise! 

That must be upsetting for you, finding that he is so honest, and successful ... better vilify him as a racist or a homophobe or somefin' ... QUICK BEFORE THE NEXT POLLS COME OUT!!!LOLLOLLOL
the people he sacked were mostly his own appointments - other people just got fed up with the kindergarten and left. Whom of these departures would fit your ideal of draining the swamp?
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Oh and the Mooch left because of his potty mouth. Embarrassed

Mr Mueller is draining swamp.Thumbs Up
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You leftatrds will complain about ANYTHING!LOL

DRAIN THE SWAMP! DRAIN THE SWAMP! ... doesn't matter how, just getting done ... and the Great Trump is doing it!Thumbs Up

Talk about "spin" ... I was unfortunate enough to catch a minute of The Project after the announcement that Little Rocket Man had finally had enough of the Trump Treatment, and is now begging for negotiations and offering to denuclearise.

Waleed the Muslim Of Convenience's question to his expert analyst?

Do you think that a meeting is a mistake by Trump, since it LEGITIMISES North Korea and it's leader?

What a hopelessly out of touch fool ... O'bummer tried to put his fingers in his ears and go "Nah, Nah, Nah ..." and that worked so well ...Wacko

In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Hey rightards what do you think of Duttons nazi style removal of a Sri Lankan family from the Biloela community because they had overstayed their visa by several hours? Perhaps they thought an area that voted in Jeff Seeney (inspiration for the name of Clives dinosaur) at state level for over a decade and currently has Australia's laziest polly Ken O'Dowd at federal level would overlook a move akin to Hitler's rounding up of the jews.

This was obviously planned well in advance, the family is said to have been told by their case worker that their visa extension was coming in the mail. The expiry has been the day before the raid, those involved in the raid would have had to have arrived in Biloela at least a day prior to the raid and it would have been planned several days in advance to strike as soon as they could, I wonder if a white American family who made the same overstay mistake would be subjected to the same treatment from Duttons storm troopers? I think we all know the answer.
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Dutton has become emboldened by the inhumane behavior of Trump, Sessions and the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency. They get away with this stuff and there is little commentary here because people are overwhelmed by Trump's other appalling behavior, so Dutton edges toward the same thing here, testing how far he can take us towards them.
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