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TANYA PlIBERSEKS has to take the crown as the worlds greatest Hypocrite.

Her concerns for the standards & qualifications required to be a school teacher have been criticised      > I wonder why ?
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C+P ( Greg Morris ) =   Surface-Tension-cartoon-of-Bill-Shorten-and-Tanya-Plibersek-320x241

It was a simple three word reference, and most probably missed it.

I didn’t.

And nor did Dyson Heydon.

The three words were spoken, when Sarah McNaughton, the highly talented Senior Counsel assisting the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption, was reading aloud a text message to a witness named Darren Greenfield, a CFMEU official and alleged standover man, whose name was mentioned in the same text message.

The three words that McNaughton read aloud were:

MICHAEL COUTTS $1000.

The message that McNaughton was reading from was contained in an intercepted text sent by underworld figure George Alex to his wife Nectaria.

George Alex’s profession is money laundering.

He washes clean the cash earned by various criminal gangs across Sydney and wider NSW; including the Brothers 4 Life, the Comancheros, the Rebels and the Griffith Mafia.

The intercepted text that he sent to his wife is alleged to be a list of payoffs or bribes that Alex was asking Nectaria Alex to make, or to cause to be made.
The full name of the man George Alex refers to in his text as Michael Coutts $1000 is in fact Michael Coutts-Trotter.

Michael Coutts-Trotter is a man who in 1985 was sentenced to 9 years imprisonment for the attempted importation of half a kilogram of heroine, much of his gaol time was in high-security NSW prisons.

Michael Coutts-Trotter is the Secretary of the NSW State Department of Family and Community Services.   he was previously Director General of the Dept. of Education & Finance services.

Michael Coutts-Trotter is the husband of Tanya Plibersek, the Deputy Leader of the Federal Labor Party.

Suddenly, and unexpectedly, Plibersek’s world has been turned upon its head.

Thirty-five years on from the Costigan Royal Commission, history repeats.

And only the names have changed.
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What Police checks would allow this family to hold such high Surface-Tension-cartoon-of-Bill-Shorten-and-Tanya-Plibersek-320x241

It was a simple three word reference, and most probably missed it.

I didn’t.

And nor did Dyson Heydon.

The three words were spoken this afternoon when Sarah McNaughton, the highly talented Senior Counsel assisting the Royal Commission into Trade Union Governance and Corruption, was reading aloud a text message to a witness named Darren Greenfield, a CFMEU official and alleged standover man, whose name was mentioned in the same text message.

The three words that McNaughton read aloud were:

MICHAEL COUTTS $1000.

The message that McNaughton was reading from was contained in an intercepted text sent by underworld figure George Alex to his wife Nectaria.

George Alex’s profession is money laundering.

He washes clean the cash earned by various criminal gangs across Sydney and wider NSW; including the Brothers 4 Life, the Comancheros, the Rebels and the Griffith Mafia.

The intercepted text that he sent to his wife is alleged to be a list of payoffs or bribes that Alex was asking Nectaria Alex to make, or to cause to be made.

Michael Coutts is not the real name of the man slated for the $1000 payment.

Like most criminals, George Alex is simply lazy, and could not be bothered going to the effort to text the recipient’s full name.

If it were not for the fact that there is another man in the criminal syndicate named Michael, with a surname beginning with C – that man’s name is Michael Cohen, a vicious and violent career criminal – then Alex would almost certainly have simply referred to the thousand dollar man in his text as Michael $1000, just as he referred to the witness as Darren $2500.

The full name of the man George Alex refers to in his text as Michael Coutts $1000 is in fact Michael Coutts-Trotter.

Michael Coutts-Trotter is a man who in 1985 was sentenced to 9 years imprisonment for the attempted importation of half a kilogram of heroin. He served 2 years and nine months of the sentence, much of it in high-security NSW prisons.

Michael Coutts-Trotter is the Secretary of the NSW State Department of Family and Community Services.

Michael Coutts-Trotter is the husband of Tanya Plibersek, the Deputy Leader of the Federal Labor Party.

Suddenly, and unexpectedly, Plibersek’s world has been turned upon its head.

Thirty-five years on from the Costigan Royal Commission, history repeats.

And only the names have changed.
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What Police checke would allow this Family to hold such high Public Office .
The Mind Boggles.
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Is Tanya your Hillary maxie?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Is Tanya your Hillary maxie?


NO NO NO PT..     I think ( even you ) would question a situation where a drug runner is off Parole in the late 1990's and has held such Government CEO jobs in just a few years.
   The wife pulling strings or what.

What has this got to do with Hilary ...   Her only crime was her Husband provided a pipe for Monica to smoke.
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I trust the judgement of the NSW Liberal Govt. maxie 
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Is Tanya your Hillary maxie?


NO NO NO PT..     I think ( even you ) would question a situation where a drug runner is off Parole in the late 1990's and has held such Government CEO jobs in just a few years.
   The wife pulling strings or what.

What has this got to do with Hilary ...   Her only crime was her Husband provided a pipe for Monica to smoke.

He couldn't come up with a relevant question or an argument macca.

I do see where he is coming from though, and I like Plebiscite - I think she will do for ScoMo what Hillary did for the Don.Big smile
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Can you give me a one sentence summary of what maccamax thinks his very long post means? It reads like a big pile of nothing.
"Even the things that I believe in the most, I doubt.”
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Old maccamax has a few obsessions. One of them is Tanya Pliebersek's husband and the other one is Donald Trump's (current) wife. Being a good Catholic lad he believes that Coutt's-Trotter should never be forgiven for his crimes of 35 years ago and the stain of that crime washes off on Pliebersek. That's a fairly radical interpretation of the New testament but maccamax belongs to an extreme sect of the Church.
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I hope Tanya never misplaces her emails.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Old maccamax has a few obsessions. One of them is Tanya Pliebersek's husband and the other one is Donald Trump's (current) wife. Being a good Catholic lad he believes that Coutt's-Trotter should never be forgiven for his crimes of 35 years ago and the stain of that crime washes off on Pliebersek. That's a fairly radical interpretation of the New testament but maccamax belongs to an extreme sect of the Church.

No real need to drag this up, but it's hardly macca's fault.

She's a bit of a tart when it comes to the bad boys though - she's still in bed with the CFMEU thugs and creates her own stains, just like the whole corrupt mob, including her boss Bullgelati Bill, and his boss John Setka. 
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Old maccamax has a few obsessions. One of them is Tanya Pliebersek's husband and the other one is Donald Trump's (current) wife. Being a good Catholic lad he believes that Coutt's-Trotter should never be forgiven for his crimes of 35 years ago and the stain of that crime washes off on Pliebersek. That's a fairly radical interpretation of the New testament but maccamax belongs to an extreme sect of the Church.

No real need to drag this up, but it's hardly macca's fault.

She's a bit of a tart when it comes to the bad boys though - she's still in bed with the CFMEU thugs and creates her own stains, just like the whole corrupt mob, including her boss Bullgelati Bill, and his boss John Setka. 

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Old maccamax has a few obsessions. One of them is Tanya Pliebersek's husband and the other one is Donald Trump's (current) wife. Being a good Catholic lad he believes that Coutt's-Trotter should never be forgiven for his crimes of 35 years ago and the stain of that crime washes off on Pliebersek. That's a fairly radical interpretation of the New testament but maccamax belongs to an extreme sect of the Church.

No real need to drag this up, but it's hardly macca's fault.

She's a bit of a tart when it comes to the bad boys though - she's still in bed with the CFMEU thugs and creates her own stains, just like the whole corrupt mob, including her boss Bullgelati Bill, and his boss John Setka. 


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Scary place that.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Scary place that.


Even Dutton is scared of entering that area.
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Tlaz ...    You are completely out of date about when Coutts-Trotters time was up regarding his 9 years sentence over drug trafficking.

   He has come a long way in his life with top Government positions and why the secrecy and uproar when anyone mentions their drug trade involvement.

How do these people get such jobs with Police records like this lot have.

I'm horrified that our Politicians and senior Public Servants can be emloyed after such criminal acts.
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Old maccamax has a few obsessions. One of them is Tanya Pliebersek's husband and the other one is Donald Trump's (current) wife. Being a good Catholic lad he believes that Coutt's-Trotter should never be forgiven for his crimes of 35 years ago and the stain of that crime washes off on Pliebersek. That's a fairly radical interpretation of the New testament but maccamax belongs to an extreme sect of the Church.

No real need to drag this up, but it's hardly macca's fault.

She's a bit of a tart when it comes to the bad boys though - she's still in bed with the CFMEU thugs and creates her own stains, just like the whole corrupt mob, including her boss Bullgelati Bill, and his boss John Setka. 


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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

   Tlaz ...    You are completely out of date about when Coutts-Trotters time was up regarding his 9 years sentence over drug trafficking.

   He has come a long way in his life with top Government positions and why the secrecy and uproar when anyone mentions their drug trade involvement.

How do these people get such jobs with Police records like this lot have.

I'm horrified that our Politicians and senior Public Servants can be emloyed after such criminal acts.
You don’t get sentenced to 9 years prison lightly. I agree Macca - very few with that criminal background go onto the powerful positions this blokes had in the Public Service. Little help from his friends I’d say !
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Old maccamax has a few obsessions. One of them is Tanya Pliebersek's husband and the other one is Donald Trump's (current) wife. Being a good Catholic lad he believes that Coutt's-Trotter should never be forgiven for his crimes of 35 years ago and the stain of that crime washes off on Pliebersek. That's a fairly radical interpretation of the New testament but maccamax belongs to an extreme sect of the Church.

No real need to drag this up, but it's hardly macca's fault.

She's a bit of a tart when it comes to the bad boys though - she's still in bed with the CFMEU thugs and creates her own stains, just like the whole corrupt mob, including her boss Bullgelati Bill, and his boss John Setka. 

Reference/link?

What, she's a "virgin" is she? 

Not sure how to break this to you, but the whole ALP/Greens Collusion is in bed with the Unions you daft liar!LOL
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Old maccamax has a few obsessions. One of them is Tanya Pliebersek's husband and the other one is Donald Trump's (current) wife. Being a good Catholic lad he believes that Coutt's-Trotter should never be forgiven for his crimes of 35 years ago and the stain of that crime washes off on Pliebersek. That's a fairly radical interpretation of the New testament but maccamax belongs to an extreme sect of the Church.

No real need to drag this up, but it's hardly macca's fault.

She's a bit of a tart when it comes to the bad boys though - she's still in bed with the CFMEU thugs and creates her own stains, just like the whole corrupt mob, including her boss Bullgelati Bill, and his boss John Setka. 

Reference/link?

What, she's a "virgin" is she? 

Not sure how to break this to you, but the whole ALP/Greens Collusion is in bed with the Unions you daft liar!LOL

A link would still be good. Unless of course....Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Afros Afros wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Old maccamax has a few obsessions. One of them is Tanya Pliebersek's husband and the other one is Donald Trump's (current) wife. Being a good Catholic lad he believes that Coutt's-Trotter should never be forgiven for his crimes of 35 years ago and the stain of that crime washes off on Pliebersek. That's a fairly radical interpretation of the New testament but maccamax belongs to an extreme sect of the Church.

No real need to drag this up, but it's hardly macca's fault.

She's a bit of a tart when it comes to the bad boys though - she's still in bed with the CFMEU thugs and creates her own stains, just like the whole corrupt mob, including her boss Bullgelati Bill, and his boss John Setka. 


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Oh I'm sorry Afros, I didn't type slowly enough for YOU, did I!Embarrassed

Being "in bed with someone" is an idiomatic expression, not to be taken literally, meaning that the subjects are in an alliance or partnership ... as the ALP and the Union Thugs are. 

I didn't think I would need to explain that to Tlaz, and CNNPT is just being cheeky again, whilst he dreams up his next lie.

Afros, you don't need to be a pathetic mini me all the time you know - why don't you just agree with CNNPT exclusively when he says something that is true, or factual or correct? ... oh yes, I agree ... it IS difficult to tell when he is lying!

Here's a tip, just be wary whenever he posts something.
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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So just salacious innuendo.


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Deflecting again PT.

Are you arguing about the Parole of Tanya's Husband 20 years ago and his being in charge of Government departments since.
Where did she fit into the criminal acts.

Whats the point of Police Checks if someone like that criminal B.   can be treated like a King because he's Bonking a Politician.

   BARNABY for Pope.
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So just salacious innuendo.


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Another recruit Comrade? 

You really should leave that to me!LOL
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Deflecting again PT.

Are you arguing about the Parole of Tanya's Husband 20 years ago and his being in charge of Government departments since.
Where did she fit into the criminal acts.

Whats the point of Police Checks if someone like that criminal B.   can be treated like a King because he's Bonking a Politician.

   BARNABY for Pope.

They are all "in bed together" macca ... oh except for Penny Wong of course ... Jay WeatherWall turned her.
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Deflecting again PT.

Are you arguing about the Parole of Tanya's Husband 20 years ago and his being in charge of Government departments since.
Where did she fit into the criminal acts.

Whats the point of Police Checks if someone like that criminal B.   can be treated like a King because he's Bonking a Politician.

   BARNABY for Pope.

I haven't expressed a view on him, so nothing to deflect from. 

I asked why Liberal Premiers had not only kept him in jobs but promoted him if his past was an impediment to getting certain jobs. You suggest that he has been helped into positions by Tanya because of her position, yet he got his first break in 1995, 3 years before she entered parliament.

It sounds by this article that he has gone through this very publicly and had plenty of knockbacks, so hardly any untoward back room deals.


But for all his determination to remake his life, Coutts-Trotter would forever have a criminal record. When he graduated with a degree in communications from UTS in 1995, he landed a job in the office of Brian Howe, then Labor deputy PM, but his new career in Canberra was quickly derailed when ASIO denied him a security clearance.

A few months later, his record initially meant he was passed over when he applied to be press secretary to Michael Egan, treasurer in the newly elected Carr Labor government in NSW, but someone put in a good word and Egan directed that he at least be given an interview.

Egan tells me that the selection committee thought he was the standout candidate but that there was this problem. Egan had other objections. "I don't like the fact you have a hyphenated name or been educated by the Jesuits," he tells me he said to Coutts-Trotter. "And if I give you the job, your background will come out."

It took about six months. The Sunday papers ran with the story that the treasurer's press secretary had been in prison for heroin, but by then Coutts-Trotter had made himself indispensable - and not just to Egan.

"Treasury just fell in love with him," Egan recalls. The treasurer mounted a strong defence of his staffer and the media went quiet. Coutts-Trotter stayed almost seven years, becoming Egan's chief of staff and a confidant of the state's leading bureaucrats before being headhunted for the position of director-general of the NSW Department of Commerce.

Then, in April 2007, then NSW education minister John Della Bosca appointed Coutts-Trotter director-general of the NSW Department of Education and Training and the whole question of his criminal past blew up again.

It was pointed out that someone with his record could not be employed as a teacher. Coutts-Trotter fronted the media: "Twenty-three years ago I was convicted of a very serious drug offence," he told them. "Luckily and remarkably in life I've been given a second chance." He asked to be able to prove himself.

http://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/tanya-plibersek-on-her-brothers-death-and-husbands-drug-addiction-20150212-13cqrh.html

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The Political scene is being overtaken by these Bi sexual re treads now days . Phelps will "fit" in well there.
I wonder what happened to that great romance with Weatherwall ...& Priceless Penny.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Tlaz ...    You are completely out of date about when Coutts-Trotters time was up regarding his 9 years sentence over drug trafficking.

   He has come a long way in his life with top Government positions and why the secrecy and uproar when anyone mentions their drug trade involvement.

How do these people get such jobs with Police records like this lot have.

I'm horrified that our Politicians and senior Public Servants can be emloyed after such criminal acts.


Well it's quite obviously a vast conspiracy between Labor and the Liberal Party in NSW to keep Coutts-Trotter in a top job. Any halfwit can see that.Wink
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Tlaz ...    You are completely out of date about when Coutts-Trotters time was up regarding his 9 years sentence over drug trafficking.

   He has come a long way in his life with top Government positions and why the secrecy and uproar when anyone mentions their drug trade involvement.

How do these people get such jobs with Police records like this lot have.

I'm horrified that our Politicians and senior Public Servants can be emloyed after such criminal acts.


Well it's quite obviously a vast conspiracy between Labor and the Liberal Party in NSW to keep Coutts-Trotter in a top job. Any halfwit can see that.Wink


Both Parties feed out of the same trough , STUPID.

I'll trust your judgement on half wits,        >   You are much better qualified in that company than I am ...   You see one every day when you shave.
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You do know that you are supposed to get lawful employment after you serve your prison sentence? That is regarded by most people as a good thing.

God knows what maccamax expects ex-crims to do after they are released.
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