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Is there a better trainer of stayers in Australia?
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To what extent is he a trainer and how do you know?
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none of your business 
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Meaning, you have nfi.
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no it doesn't my friend, it means you have nfi 
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Unless you can be a horse trainer by remote control from your loungeroom I fail to see how he can be a horse trainer.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Unless you can be a horse trainer by remote control from your loungeroom I fail to see how he can be a horse trainer.

Are you retarded?
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The argument has closed- I win.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Unless you can be a horse trainer by remote control from your loungeroom I fail to see how he can be a horse trainer.

 what do you think Bart is doing...training from remote control...

 
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How many hours a week does it take to be a horse trainer? 50? 70?
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Originally posted by HUSSLER HUSSLER wrote:

Is there a better trainer of stayers in Australia?


Yes. Bart Cummings.
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Many trainers don't go to the races. John Hawkes for a start. Has nothing to do with whether they're the trainer, or not.
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Are you telling me that John Hawkes is not at Warwick Farm before dawn most days of the week?
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Of course Hawkes is at Warwick Farm every morning. Just as Williams is at his farm at Mt. Macedon every morning.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Are you telling me that John Hawkes is not at Warwick Farm before dawn most days of the week?

No hes probably at Rosehill or Flemington
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LW is bad for racing.
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And just why might that be Paz?
It's hard to soar with eagles...

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Not much to really read between the lines , he worked home well in a strong formline race last start without being flogged to the line , Lloyd is a astute placer of his horses , if he ever officially takes out a licence i'd go to him , he has plenty of coin for a reason !
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williams runs/owns the operation is the CEO, the trainer takes his orders from the CEO.
bad for racing ?  a case both sides of the debate could make.
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I spose the the bloke who pays the bills always has the final say , a bit like singo today! Decisions are hopefully based upon agreement , not a standover of  the trainer ,or a trainer disregarding the opinion of owners who have been in the industry longer than the trainer.
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Lloyd has a lot of input, but the whole team trains. 
Also, isn't Lee Freedman there as part of the training team?

I know for sure that Lloyd places them, I think Hickmott's job is to get them ready.
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Lee's title is Director of Racing. Does anyone have any idea what that means?
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Might mean two heads are better than one.
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Originally posted by HUSSLER HUSSLER wrote:

Is there a better trainer of stayers in Australia?
 
The modern day George Hanlon in my books.
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I'm surprised you don't rate the Aga Khan as a trainer.
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Has some interesting new runners going round tomorrow at Flemington..

Foundry
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The United States..( I think is scratched)

looks like Lloyd has been busy spending again...
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Foundry (IRE) Race record


Flat placings 1/25-

LIFETIME RECORD STARTS WINS 2NDS 3RDS WINNINGS EARNINGS BEST TS BEST RPR OR†
Flat Turf 3 1 1 0 £9,488 £57,878 84 113 112
Stakes 2 0 1 0 £0 £48,390 84 113 112
Rules Races 3 1 1 0 £9,488 £57,878 — — —
  DATE RACE CONDITIONS WGT RACE OUTCOME JOCKEY OR TS RPR
Video 14Sep13   Don 15GS C13yG1 340K 9-0 5/11 (3¼L Leading Light 9-0) 5/1 Ryan Moore — * *
Video 21Aug13   Yor 12GF C13yG2 85K 8-12 2/7 (1¼L Telescope 8-12) 5/1 Seamie Heffernan — * *
Video 04Nov12   Leo 7Sft 2y 9K 9-5 1/12 (5½L Tonabrocky 9-5) 9/2 Seamie Heffernan — * *
Panspermia.
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Nevis (IRE) Race record

Flat placings 416/1-

LIFETIME RECORD STARTS WINS 2NDS 3RDS WINNINGS EARNINGS BEST TS BEST RPR OR†
Flat Turf 4 2 0 0 £45,008 £47,291 61 108 104
Stakes 2 1 0 0 £35,520 £37,187 61 108 104
Rules Races 4 2 0 0 £45,008 £47,291 — — —
  DATE RACE CONDITIONS WGT RACE OUTCOME JOCKEY OR TS RPR
Video 11May13   Lin 11Sft C13yL 35K 8-12 1/4 (9L Elidor 8-12) 4/9F Ryan Moore 98 * *
Video 15Sep12   Cur 7Y 2yG1 96K 9-3 6/7 (14L Dawn Approach 9-3) 9/2 Joseph O'Brien — * *
Video 19Jul12   Leo 8Sft 2y 9K 9-5 1/10 (3L Ralston Road 9-5) 4/6F Joseph O'Brien — * *
Video 01Jul12   Cur 7Sft/Hy 2y 10K 9-5 4/8 (5¾L The United States 9-5) 9/1 Seamie Heffernan — * *
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Anyone know what he paid for these blokes..??
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