Live Export Indonesia & Sri Lanka

Some action is already being taken, with a suspension of movement of cattle to the 11 or so abattoirs shown in the program, and review of the remaining 80 odd.

What is the problem exactly?

we have a duty of care wortel,,,that the stock is treated even when they touch indonesia soil with respect as if the ywere in my home town abs,,,,

Wortel wrote: What is the problem exactly? Once the cattle leaves our shores why should we get a say on how they're treated? Isn't that up to Indonesia and their own lawmakers to decide? How about keep the cattle here and employ Aussies to work the slaughterhouses. No that might cost too much hey? Everything is an economic decision these days. Outsource to the max.

It is a religious issue Wortel. The Moslem Indonesians require that meat they eat be slaughtered according to halal or Islamic law. The animal has to be facing Mecca when it dies and must be conscious. These issues are very difficult to get around and are not political issues

Do you think Australian horses don't go there to,for meat market?

too

Wortel wrote: All cows should be killed. They're disease ridden and benefit to the human race. Freak crossbreed abbominations

I would say the same about you warthog,but I would spell it abomination

Wortel wrote: What do I care, I don't eat beef. All cows should be killed. They're disease ridden and have no nutritional benefit to the human race. Freak crossbreed abbominations that are force fed refined grains in CAFOs. (Concentrated Animal Feeding Operations).   Do you know that all cows milk is full of Bovine Leukemia virus? Most cows have cancer, they're fed crap, they live in their own gelati. It's just not good food.

CANNOT BELIEVE A MODERATOR WOULD WRITE THIS

I started watching but i switched channels after 30 seconds,I couldn't bear to watch the cruelty,the same reason i don't watch wildlife documentaries can't stand seeing the dwindling numbers ,receding habitat and poaching.
I also wonder about halal and kosher meat in Australia.

Ok it might have been a bit over the top to suggest that cows be killed. Apoligies to everybody that might have been offended.

dishlicker wrote: Maybe the people putting all this energy into banning jumps racing, should look at things like this......jumps racing is not cruel compared to this stuff

Aah dishlicker, exactly what I was thinking throughout the doco . The difference between the 2 is incomparable in terms of cruelty but probably far closer in terms of dollars spent.I've never, ever heard a horse repeatedly screaming in agony, nor do I want to .

My God Wortel what callous posts you've made! The cattle didn't ask to be born nor did the dogs who are beaten to increase the adrenalin in the muscles then skinned alive for the same reason. How can you condone acts of protracted torture on any living thing? Oh, silly me, I quite forgot, you haven't even bothered to watch ONE clip so why even make comment on the thread. Moderator? How can one become a mod. when they don't even have basic morals?

These cattle just happen to be Australian as were those shown having their hind tendons severed in Egypt a few years ago which resulted in that country buying chilled beef from us instead.

I worked in an abb. where Halal was carried out calmly, cleanly & as painfree as death could be & btw, IN ISLAM IT IS FORBIDDEN TO EAT MEAT THAT IS NOT KILLED HUMANELY.

Whale, unfortunately I ended up seeing it as my OH got to bed just before me, knows we always watch 4 Corners & spent most of his life as an abbatoir foreman (boning room so all dead!). I told him I didn't want to watch as I'd seen previews & had a tape instead but..................... wish I'd stayed in the lounge now but my back was killing me!!

I'm saying I think the cows should have a better quality of life and free to eat more grass in open fields.

Ok I watched the clip. It was sickening, poor Brian didn't deserve to be tortured like that.

Muffin, the religious aspect is the timing of the killing before eating and the certainty that it was killed facing Mecca. What is happening appears to be bad management of the abattoirs and inappropriate untrained people running them.

how any person in their right mind could condone that sort of sick, sadistic treatment of any type of animal is beyond me .
its shows a persons worth by the way they treat their animals,,,or something like that , didnt Ghandi say ??
and these jokers are supposed to live by the Koran , which advocates kindness and humane treatment of animals ???
wow !!
wortel,   why did you stick up for live export,   in your callous statements ?  do you work with it in Darwin ?   thats where most of the cattle are shipped from, arnt they ?
just curious.