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3blindmice
Champion Joined: 22 Oct 2012 Status: Offline Points: 18105 |
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Did the Mornington Cup win guarantee a place in the CC field or was it just qualification?
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crooked_gambler
Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676 |
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Ballot exempt. He’s guaranteed a run. |
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djebel
Premium Joined: 07 Mar 2007 Status: Offline Points: 53960 |
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He'll have had enough by the time his proper races come around.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Lord Hybrow
Champion Joined: 05 Jul 2015 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 6683 |
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I’ve not heard exactly what his program is going to be, but you’d think he’d go into the Caulfield Cup 4th up:
Liston Stks 1400m Craiglee Stks 1600m Turnbull Stks 2000m (or Underwood Stks 1800m) Caulfield Cup 2400m |
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crooked_gambler
Champion Joined: 27 Jan 2015 Status: Offline Points: 4676 |
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He is running in the PB Lawrence this weekend
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Bonfield
Champion Joined: 07 Nov 2013 Status: Offline Points: 10291 |
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PB Lawrence
Memsie Makybe Diva Turnbull or Underwood Caulfield Cup They mapped this out ages ago.
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maccamax
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He is one smart horse . I hope he comes up for the Spring campaign.
Will make his presence felt if he does. |
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Tlazolteotl
Champion Joined: 02 Oct 2012 Location: Elephant Butte Status: Offline Points: 31447 |
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Djebel will have a fit at that program.
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Bonfield
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I can't see why he can't run 3200m. His best run so far has been 2400m.
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djebel
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You are 100% correct. I doubt he will win a thing this spring despite his undoubted talent. |
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Bonfield
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Perfect program. I can see him still finding his legs in PB Lawrence and Memsie. He could show up a bit in Makybe Diva. He would be a chance in Turnbull with light weight, then should be cherry ripe for CC.
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Bonfield
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Weir has the luxury of preparing him for the one race. Of course after the CC there is no reason why he can't have a go at the MC.
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djebel
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It is a luxury for Weir and connections but what do punters and fans of the horse do ? Will the horse be trying before weights are released ? |
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djebel
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reductio ad absurdum
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Bonfield
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I'm sure the horse will be trying in all his races, but I suspect Weir will keep him a little underdone until weights come out.
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maccamax
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Your game djebel . He has already put his name on the acceptances for the CC.... Which he will win with a repeat of his most recent run. He won the Mornington Cup in 2.28.67 on a slow track over 2400m . That's Group 1 material. |
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Tlazolteotl
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Even I, no purist, wonder why it needs two runs at 1400m in a Caulfield Cup prep.
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Tlazolteotl
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But it seems to be standard practice for Weir for some reason. I will check to see if he did it with POP. No- spell- 1400-1600.
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crooked_gambler
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PoP was due to run in the Makybe Diva but was a scratch Ing because of the hard track, ended up running at Ballarat second up. I think that was a mile though
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crooked_gambler
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Craig Williams' dreams of winning a third Caulfield Cup moved a step closer to reality on Wednesday when it was confirmed that he'd secured the prized ride aboard current favourite Kings Will Dream.
The arrangement with trainer Darren Weir and the import's managing owner Brad Spicer will see the reigning Melbourne premiership winner - who won the Cup on Dunaden (2012) and Southern Speed (2011) - ride Kings Will Dream in $5 million feature, as well as his final lead-up run in the Group 1 Turnbull Stakes (2000m). John Allen is expected to partner Kings Will Dream in all other lead-up runs, including Saturday's first-up assignment in the Group 2 P.B. Lawrence Stakes (1400m). "Brad (Spicer) was very keen to get a rider locked away and obviously when they've got the light weight it can be tricky so I think it came down to Dean Yendall and Craig (Williams)," Weir said. "The syndicate decided to go with Craig but if something happens to Craig or he gets suspended around that time, Dean will be there to take his place." Kings Will Dream, who secured ballot exemption for the Caulfield Cup with a dominant win in the Mornington Cup, is one of six Weir-trained runners set to line up in the star-studded Lawrence Stakes. While Weir has been pleased with the five-year-old's work to date since returning to his Warrnambool stable this campaign, he isn't expecting the galloper to maintain his unbeaten record in Australia after Saturday's Group 2 feature. "He's going really well and the crew here (Warrnambool) have done a really good job at getting him going because he hasn't been easy," he said. "This time in he seems to be a bit more mature in the brain and physically he's probably put on 40 or 50 kilograms. "I'm looking forward to seeing him run on Saturday to see where he fits in because this will be his toughest test to date, first run at weight-for-age against some really good horses. "Where he finishes doesn't worry us, it's how he finishes the race off is the most important thing and we just want him running through the line strong." |
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djebel
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reductio ad absurdum
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crooked_gambler
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HUGE
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3blindmice
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Need to watch the replay but YES. Seems you can put him in any race against pretty much any field and he delivers. Owners must be super excited.
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cotto1
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Hi guys:
I was reading on kings will dream.that in his last start.over the last 400 metres.he was the fastest home.interesting he definitely has the legs at the end of the race.that end race burst.and they have the luxury of winning the ballot exempt race.so they can pick and choose how much work he has now and until the Caulfield cup.someone has bet 5k on him to win the Caulfield cup @ $6. |
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early4lunch
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on what date will JA ride KWD for the last time?
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Shawy38
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Williams rides in the CC and his final lead up (likely Turnbull) Allen to ride in Memsie and Makybe Diva if that’s where he goes |
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crooked_gambler
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I still don’t know how he got so close. Very impressive late
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Heavenly Glow
Champion Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1569 |
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Massive run. Should've won with something in hand. Very impressive horse.
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MJB
Champion Joined: 30 Nov 2017 Location: Melbourne Status: Offline Points: 1601 |
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Going beautifully this horse.
Caulfield Cup. Don't know which internationals will be lining up, but this boy will be very hard to beat obviously. |
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furious
Champion Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Status: Offline Points: 25179 |
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Good run for a stayer to go so close in this race.
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