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    Posted: 10 Mar 2018 at 12:55pm
This is a seriously good horse
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He's a gelding. 


STRIKE WHILST THE IRON IS HOT

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The richest man is not he who has the most, but he who needs the least.

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KINGS WILL DREAM (GB)Chestnut gelding 2014 
Casamento
Chestnut 2008
Shamardal
Bay 2002
Giant's Causeway
Chestnut 1997
Storm Cat
Bay or brown 1983
Storm Bird
Terlingua
1978
1976
4-j
8-c
Mariah's Storm
Bay 1991
Rahy
Immense
1985
1979
12-c
11>
Helsinki
Bay 1993
Machiavellian
Bay or brown 1987
Mr Prospector
Coup de Folie
1970
1982
13-c
2-d
Helen Street
Bay 1982
Troy
Waterway
1976
1976
1-b
1-l
Wedding Gift
Bay or brown 1993
Always Fair
Bay 1985
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Pas de Nom
1961
1968
2-d
7-a
Carduel
Bay 1978
Buckpasser
Minstrelete
1963
1973
1-s
19-b
Such Style
Bay 1977
Sassafras
Bay 1967
Sheshoon
Ruta
1956
1960
14-a
8-c
Regal Lady
Bay 1970
Relko
Noble Lassie
1960
1956
16-g
1-d
Road Harbour
Chestnut 1996
Rodrigo de Triano
Chestnut 1989
El Gran Senor
Bay 1981
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Sex Appeal
Chestnut 1970
Buckpasser
Best in Show
1963
1965
1-s
8-f
Hot Princess
Chestnut 1980
Hot Spark
Chestnut 1972
Habitat
Garvey Girl
1966
1960
4-r
1-n
Aspara
Chestnut 1972
Crimson Satan
Courtside
1959
1965
26>
20-a
Revasser
Bay or brown 1989
Riverman
Bay 1969
Never Bend
Bay 1960
Nasrullah
Lalun
1940
1952
9-c
19-b
River Lady
Bay 1963
Prince John
Nile Lily
1953
1954
14-f
10-a
Nijinsky Star
Bay 1980
Nijinsky
Bay 1967
Northern Dancer
Flaming Page
1961
1959
2-d
8-f
Chris Evert
Chestnut 1971
Swoon's Son
Miss Carmie
1953
1966
12-b
23-b
 Ancestor duplications:Northern Dancer5m x 4m,5m Buckpasser5f x 5f


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Impressive acceleration when he pushed out of that gap
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Yep and yep. Did Weir say a couple back that he still hadn't acclimatised?
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Interesting last two starts he’s looked liked winning by panels but giving a bit of ground late. Wonder if he switches off. Might need to hold him up a touch in better company, but he’s a push button type.
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Noticed that late Judge. Have to watch again but when Zahra put the whip away he coasted then picked up a little again when given a late one.
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Moody pointed out in the yard that it looked like he hadn’t settled into Aus conditions

Pushing on to the Mornington cup
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Spanked them
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Beat nothing.
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Beat nothing.


He might have won me a Mercedes Stayer.    He made up 3 out of 4 winners in my entry into Betfairs Tipping competition for this week end.

You had to beat their professional tipsters on the 4 nominated races to get a boost prize. ( I've done that ) Or get into the top 50 for cash to your account prize.
A lot of fun actually,   It was a pair of sox and a betfair cap for one winner last week.
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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Beat nothing.


Treated them as such.

As long as he comes up next time he is a great chance.


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Agree on all points.
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Thanks for the heads up Shawy Thumbs Up
Experience is something you gain a few minutes after you could have used it!
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He hasn't even turned 4 in actual time Tongue

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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Thanks for the heads up Shawy Thumbs Up


A better heads up gay3 is he ran the 2400m in 2.28.6 on a slow track , pulling up.
Those times win Caulfield Cups.

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Heard them say it cost 400k to land him in Oz.

Which is a lot of money for a horse that had won an ordinary maiden from three starts in the NH, and demonstrates what a huge market Oz now is for staying bred horses.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Heard them say it cost 400k to land him in Oz.

Which is a lot of money for a horse that had won an ordinary maiden from three starts in the NH, and demonstrates what a huge market Oz now is for staying bred horses.


Racing is flying in Oz , and like most things here we have gained big time with migration.        (King's Will Dream is an Ozzie now ) same as Costa Tszyu, Daria Gavilova and Humidor.

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He is no more staying bred than most Aussie horses.



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He is no more staying bred than most Aussie horses.

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Originally posted by stayer stayer wrote:

Beat nothing.

He also beat 'nothing' at Flemington the start prior and three of those came out and ran 1st, 3rd and 4th in the Albury Gold Cup
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by djebel djebel wrote:

He is no more staying bred than most Aussie horses.

   Doesn't matter Djebel ,    Daddy ain't running.   


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Read somewhere is $10 for the Caulfield Cup, that is more a scandal than ball tampering.



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Whereas the tampering with his balls is already a fait accompli.
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I see what you did there SC...

Actually CC markets are usually loaded up front with Oaks/Derby types, generally well under the odds. I wouldn't touch that price KWD, but I'd probably take it before the 15s on offer for second fave Ace High. Joke market.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Whereas the tampering with his balls is already a fait accompli.


Below the belt, touche 🙄


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Originally posted by JudgeHolden JudgeHolden wrote:

I see what you did there SC...

Actually CC markets are usually loaded up front with Oaks/Derby types, generally well under the odds. I wouldn't touch that price KWD, but I'd probably take it before the 15s on offer for second fave Ace High. Joke market.


I have no problem with their position in the market just the price. This time of year I want their potential price multiplied by number of fortnights till race.

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Owner basically just admitted he is a non betting prospect in the early part of the spring.

Caulfield Cup 5th up from a spell.




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With a Benchmark of 98 I guess they can afford to win a early season listed race, but I can not see them pressing the button in serious races.


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My favourite horse coming into spring resumes on Saturday. I don't expect him to do anything much until the Turnbull Stakes so they can protect his handicap rating and get into CC on minimum.
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