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That acceleration stamps him as a WFA horse in waiting. Schofield Had a lapful at the 250m mark
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Sex on legs, this horse.

Lonhro-like acceleration.
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If Winx goes OS, this will be a good Cox Plate horse
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Love him!
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Nice horse, runner up no mug either, just got held up while fave had momentum
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Originally posted by Sunline Sunline wrote:

Sex on legs, this horse.

Lonhro-like acceleration.


Wow, to many years stuck in a TAB learning to talk the lango, absolute rubbish!!!
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Kementari improved so much since last spring. Used to get into position to ping but only a small ping, now BOOM. Very adaptable too- you can shoot him out of the barriers or sit midfield- which will make him hard to beat in anything.


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Originally posted by Paul Hogan Paul Hogan wrote:

Originally posted by Sunline Sunline wrote:

Sex on legs, this horse.

Lonhro-like acceleration.


Wow, to many years stuck in a TAB learning to talk the lango, absolute rubbish!!!


Will be a star
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Referring to the quote only, not the horses ability.

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Happy to be wrong about this guy getting a mile. The way he won, I see no issue with Godolphin taking the Rosehill Guineas route then dropping back to the Doncaster mile. None of his competition yesterday can beat him over a further 400m after what we saw yesterday.

Godolphin won't be game enough to go to the Doncaster without another run, and they won't be game enough to run him against Winx which leaves the Rosehill Guineas as the most sensible option.


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I see no issue with this colt racing Winx in the George Ryder. It's the right lead up to the Donnie and I'm sure he'll acquit himself well.

There will be no shame as a stallion prospect running 2nd to the champ at WFA, and it will set him him up perfectly to plummet in weight into the Donnie.

Conversely I think he could be beaten in the Rosehill Guineas which would be a blemish. I doubt he can extend his brilliance to 2000m, so you'd be hoping he has as much stamina as some of these others like Ace High. Could stuff the horse.
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[QUOTE=Nobody]Happy to be wrong about this guy getting a mile. The way he won, I see no issue with Godolphin taking the Rosehill Guineas route then dropping back to the Doncaster mile. None of his competition yesterday can beat him over a further 400m after what we saw yesterday.

Godolphin won't be game enough to go to the Doncaster without another run, and they won't be game enough to run him against Winx which leaves the Rosehill Guineas as the most sensible option.


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Reckon it might be the other way round.... Winx camp be crapping bricks that he runs, if she spots him  her usual head start she won't be running him down.

Godolphin will love that on his resume Sunnie LOL
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Originally posted by Rusty101 Rusty101 wrote:

[QUOTE=Nobody]Happy to be wrong about this guy getting a mile. The way he won, I see no issue with Godolphin taking the Rosehill Guineas route then dropping back to the Doncaster mile. None of his competition yesterday can beat him over a further 400m after what we saw yesterday.

Godolphin won't be game enough to go to the Doncaster without another run, and they won't be game enough to run him against Winx which leaves the Rosehill Guineas as the most sensible option.


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Reckon it might be the other way round.... Winx camp be crapping bricks that he runs, if she spots him  her usual head start she won't be running him down.

Godolphin will love that on his resume Sunnie LOL

If I was in Winx camp Kementari is the horse I would least like to see in ryder. In fact he's head and shoulders above any other threat. If he doesn't run in Ryder who would be the strongest opposition for Winx?
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star - most improved horse in Australia
Keep serving up the overs please
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Originally posted by Manny G Manny G wrote:

star - most improved horse in Australia



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Gods Own was a brilliant 3yo before he ran into Makybe Diva.

I think Kemantari could have his confidence smashed by running into the freak mare. I think they should be avoiding her myself.
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Originally posted by mikey mikey wrote:

Gods Own was a brilliant 3yo before he ran into Makybe Diva.

I think Kemantari could have his confidence smashed by running into the freak mare. I think they should be avoiding her myself.


Running 3yos who can't stay in the Cox Plate is different to running them in a Ryder. I doubt facing MD had any effect on God's Own- he wasn't that good, before or after the Cox Plate.
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Has been beaten before not unlike he is unbeaten. Getting beaten by lengths from the chanp won't make a difference.
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Horses are not that smart- the old heart broken by getting clobbered theory is anthromorphism.
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His last sectionals and performance would put him right in the Ryder.
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I am one who subscribes to the broken heart theory. But I can't see a problem with running Kementari in the Ryder.

It is by far the best lead run into the Doncaster and is proven so. Perfect for 3yos. Racing To Win and Kermadec both did it in recent memory. He doesn't have to have a gut buster, they can just let him find his feet in his comfort zone as they've done all prep, then let him dash and run 2nd to the champ.

He has been well handled and looked after all prep, and done it easy each time. Now he's rock hard fit so no reason to think he gets the stuffing knocked out of him.
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How long have you wanted to have Sex with KEMENTARI Sunline?
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Originally posted by Sunline Sunline wrote:

I am one who subscribes to the broken heart theory. But I can't see a problem with running Kementari in the Ryder.

It is by far the best lead run into the Doncaster and is proven so. Perfect for 3yos. Racing To Win and Kermadec both did it in recent memory. He doesn't have to have a gut buster, they can just let him find his feet in his comfort zone as they've done all prep, then let him dash and run 2nd to the champ.

He has been well handled and looked after all prep, and done it easy each time. Now he's rock hard fit so no reason to think he gets the stuffing knocked out of him.
     " Breaking their heart " is a poetic way of putting it. I prefer " teaching them to lose". Asking a young horse still learning their craft to do the impossible is never a good idea.
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He had plenty of time to learn how to lose last spring, when was beaten all 4 times he ran- must be a slow learner.Big smile
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

He had plenty of time to learn how to lose last spring, when was beaten all 4 times he ran- must be a slow learner.Big smile
Last campaign this colt didn't have the foggiest idea what he was supposed to be doing . He does now. When the jockey says go he's supposed to run past the other horses. Simple concept but a big difference in results once the penny drops. Ask Winx!
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Originally posted by Baguette Baguette wrote:

Originally posted by Sunline Sunline wrote:

I am one who subscribes to the broken heart theory. But I can't see a problem with running Kementari in the Ryder.

It is by far the best lead run into the Doncaster and is proven so. Perfect for 3yos. Racing To Win and Kermadec both did it in recent memory. He doesn't have to have a gut buster, they can just let him find his feet in his comfort zone as they've done all prep, then let him dash and run 2nd to the champ.

He has been well handled and looked after all prep, and done it easy each time. Now he's rock hard fit so no reason to think he gets the stuffing knocked out of him.
     " Breaking their heart " is a poetic way of putting it. I prefer " teaching them to lose". Asking a young horse still learning their craft to do the impossible is never a good idea.


He should know his craft by now.

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Headed to the George Ryder. 

Kudos to Goldolphin for not being scared but he needs to improve by another 4 lengths. Upside is that this campaign we haven't seen the bottom of the well with him, so does have atleast another 4L improvement in him?
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Why 4l Nobody? If he runs the time and sectionals he did in the Guineas I reckon he's a middling chance of an upset - even though the 3YOs have yet to do anything at WFA from memory (Showtime in the Futurity, can't think of any others). Only getting 1kg from Winx is the problem.
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