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    Posted: 10 Jun 2019 at 10:07am
Surprised some of the white, privileged yet disadvantaged Confused guys on this forum have not posted their endorsement of this piece of $%%^^# comments about Rosie Batty

Too busy complaining about all the other raw deals they get LOL
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An absolute disgrace. His union should boot him, if able to.
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Surprised some of the white, privileged yet disadvantaged Confused guys on this forum have not posted their endorsement of this piece of $%%^^# comments about Rosie Batty

Too busy complaining about all the other raw deals they get LOL

Should never forget they are the real victims in the culture wars Whale.
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whale, you could have just posted the article without the under handed jibe.

Otherwise had never heard of him. But now i see AnAl is denying his relationship with john.

Same to you pt.

I'm still wondering about whales comment on Ash Barty being a good type of indigenous person Confused
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Politically I’m Labor to the core, from a long line of active trade unionist going way back to the beginning of the last century. But I think I speak for most Australians when I say I’m sick to death of the “ culture wars” . Identity politics , political correctness and all the rest are very American and the only thing that they’ve achieved is to ensure that as a society we’re nearly as divided as they are. Just a tip to those who insist on fighting the “ culture wars”, Australians can be persuaded with logical arguments and above all practical solutions . They can’t and won’t be bullied. If you frame your case as I’m right and if you disagree with me you’re a racist, climate denying , Nazi who is also stupid , then guess what they’ll switch off and not listen to anything you have to say. I really worry for this country with a corrupt Conservative party in power and the left worrying about stuff like Folau, the National Anthem and now what some moron has said . How about for about five minutes we focus on something important?
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

whale, you could have just posted the article without the under handed jibe.

Otherwise had never heard of him. But now i see AnAl is denying his relationship with john.

Same to you pt.

I'm still wondering about whales comment on Ash Barty being a good type of indigenous person Confused

poor Isaac, a bit black and white, excuse the expression, doesn't understand subtlety or irony Confused
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A "corrupt" conservative party that by every ones admission wasnt supposed to get in, and yet the public rejected labors policy, out of hand, 
I was listening Baguette until you became divisive.
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Baguette, a long post saying nothing. So it is okay by you to blame women victims for mens' feelings of powerlessness  and violence, I see  Dead
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Pretty common on here Whale
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

whale, you could have just posted the article without the under handed jibe.

Otherwise had never heard of him. But now i see AnAl is denying his relationship with john.

Same to you pt.

I'm still wondering about whales comment on Ash Barty being a good type of indigenous person Confused

poor Isaac, a bit black and white, excuse the expression, doesn't understand subtlety or irony Confused

Or is that sarcasm, the lowest form of wit whale.

Thats more like you.

Your statement about Ash was as subtle as a brick.
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Whale, a posting contradiction....
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

[QUOTE=Whale][QUOTE=Isaac soloman]whale, you could have just posted t

Your statement about Ash was as subtle as a brick.

not that subtle but you still did not get it Confused

maybe you were hit in the head by a brick and have diminished brain power LOL
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Whale you suffer from foot in mouth.

Keep it upLOL
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She is one of the good, acceptable indigenous Thumbs Up

That is your post whale. subtle as a brick. And now you try to gloss over it; makes you a closet racist.
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You really dont get that context Isaac? Confused
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No i dont

but then we dont see eye to eye on china, politics, america etc

bu t i admire your defense of whale,, defending the indefensibleLOL 
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pt can you explain the Ash post by whale?
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Norm Gallagher lives. What's the deal with the Victorian construction industry?
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I doubt this will work.Clap Let's see.

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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

pt can you explain the Ash post by whale?

Just apply the same analytical skills and sense of balance you use to determine I am a Chinese spy and I am confident you can come up with your own deductions on Whale's post Isaac Thumbs UpLOL
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

I doubt this will work.Clap Let's see.

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Rap sheet reveals 60 charges for would-be union boss John Setka

THE extraordinary police record of John Setka, one of the nation's most powerful unionists, finally has been laid bare, with 60 charges leading to dozens of convictions and fines including for theft, assault by kicking, criminal damage and assaulting police.

By the end of the year, Mr Setka is expected to be placed in charge of the construction division of the Victorian branch of the Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union.

The Australian can reveal that Mr Setka, 48 next month, was charged 60 times with serious offences between 1982 and 1991 in a violent battle with the law during unprecedented turmoil in the construction industry.

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He was convicted or fined in relation to 40 of those offences (one of which was dropped after an appeal). That still makes it an extraordinary rap sheet for one of the nation's most influential members of the construction industry.

Mr Setka said yesterday the majority of the charges came from heated exchanges on picket lines and in the name of defending union members.

Critics hit out at the behaviour of Mr Setka, a former Builders Labourers Federation official, warning union delegates should be made aware of his past when voting in ballots.

The criminal history, which includes his fingerprint classification and a jail number, shows that Mr Setka was found guilty multiple times for indecent language, assault by kicking, assaulting police and wilful trespass.

Sitting with Melbourne identity Mick Gatto at a wine bar opposite Parliament House in Melbourne yesterday, Mr Setka said he was under legal instruction not to talk to The Australian but added that many of the offences were committed in the name of protecting workers.

"A lot of the charging was dismissed on appeal," he said. "You go to a picket line and you just get loaded up with a whole lot of charges."

Mr Gatto said Mr Setka worked hard for his members and deserved respect.

Mr Setka, who is suing Tony Abbott for allegedly implying he is a union thug, was accused in court yesterday of deliberately driving his car at a building site manager following a violent protest. He denies the claim.

Mr Setka also allegedly hurled abuse at Grocon employees during a protest in Melbourne at which construction workers trampled on police officers.

The allegations were made as Grocon asked the Victorian Supreme Court to extend injunction orders against the CFMEU after hearing evidence about the violent clash outside Grocon's $1.2 billion Myer Emporium building site on Lonsdale Street.

The company's Victorian operations manager, Brian McAdam, told judge Anthony Cavanough he had recognised Mr Setka at the CBD protest and saw him directly confront a group of about 90 Grocon employees who were trying to enter their worksite. "Mr Setka has then verbally abused our people," Mr McAdam told the court. "It's not language I like to use but he yelled out 'f . . king dog'."

Mr McAdam said Mr Setka had also called the workers "scabs", to which some of them replied, "we just want to work".

A police spokeswoman said: "There were no arrests during today's protest. Police will investigate any possible offences relating to today's protest after viewing available vision."

While it has been known Mr Setka has had brushes with the law, the full extent of his dealings with Victoria Police in the turbulent 1980s and 90s have been closely guarded.

Mr Setka's lawyers yesterday did not respond to a series of questions put to him in writing by The Australian. Mr Setka did not contest the accuracy of his criminal history.

Between 1982 and 1991, he faced 60 criminal charges and two traffic offences. Of the 60 charges, 20 were dropped or no further action was taken, with 40 leading to penalties. Of several attempts to appeal matters, only one was successful.

Mr Setka is suing the Opposition Leader, claiming he has been "gravely injured" by his public portrayal as a construction site thug. Mr Abbott, who made the claim at a Master Builders Association conference in February, has contended he had been true in his criticism of Mr Setka.

Of the charges successfully pursued by police 20 years ago, Mr Setka was found guilty five times of assaulting police, five times of assault by kicking, seven times for wilful trespass, five times for resisting arrest, once for theft and once for attempted theft by deception.

The Australian reported in May that Mr Setka had been jailed twice after being found in contempt of court. This is separate to the criminal record seen by The Australian and published today.

Victorian Premier Ted Baillieu said yesterday he would not comment directly on Mr Setka but he was sick of industrial thuggery in the construction industry.

Former Australian Building and Construction Commissioner John Lloyd said that in any union or employer association senior appointments needed to be carefully considered.

On Mr Setka's past, Mr Lloyd said: "The members probably know about it. But it wouldn't be unreasonable that members were aware of all the facts about a person's past."

Lawrie Cross, industrial relations and health and safety manager at the Master Builders Association of Victoria, said he was concerned the ABCC had been abolished.

"Such is the pervasive power of the CFMEU over construction companies, the situation is going to repeat itself," he said. "Yes, we are concerned that there remains an element of thuggery."

In a statement to members yesterday, the CFMEU accused Grocon of underhanded tactics and of denying basic rights such as being represented by recognised safety and union representatives.

"To enforce his rules on an unhappy workforce, Daniel Grollo employs a team of management heavies led by a former nightclub bouncer," the union said. "The CFMEU has never accepted this bullying and intimidation and has made clear our opposition over a number of years. We thought we had solved the problem in April when Daniel Grollo shook hands with CFMEU leaders on a deal. This would have guaranteed workers on Grocon sites the same rights as all other construction workers."

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

pt can you explain the Ash post by whale?

Just apply the same analytical skills and sense of balance you use to determine I am a Chinese spy and I am confident you can come up with your own deductions on Whale's post Isaac Thumbs UpLOL

You are not a chinese spy pt

you are completely out there as a chinese nutLOL

and your post does not explain whales rubbish.
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That's right Isaac, I even started a thread to obsess about them. Oh wait... Confused
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Isaac what has all this got to do with John Setka?
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Whale, you did well to bring setka to tbv attention.

What a despicable example of union and labor thuggery....


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That's right Isaac, I even started a thread to obsess about them. Oh wait... Confused

Think i started that one pt, after an invitation from whale.
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Isaac what has all this got to do with John Setka?

subtlety  and irony according to whale.


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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Whale, you did well to bring setka to tbv attention.

What a despicable example of union and labor thuggery....



Quite true a despicable creature, his threats to the families of politicians Dead

Unlike you Isaac I am even handed, I see faults where they occur no matter which side of the political spectrum.Smile


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