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    Posted: 01 Oct 2018 at 7:04pm
Will this stallion make it ? His current American figures are over 7.5% stakes winners to runners. Only half a dozen named unraced 2yr olds in Australia. Is he value or fools gold?
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He can make it here, but hampered by that small first crop.

His sire could have been a huge success here, but did more than enough beforereturning to the USA after just two seasons here with 6 stakes-winners from less than 120 live foals.
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The pedigree is too American for me. I have never liked US dominated pedigrees.

JIMMY CREED (USA)Chestnut colt 2009 
Distorted Humor
Chestnut 1993
Forty Niner
Chestnut 1985
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Chestnut 1961
Native Dancer
Raise You
1950
1946
5-f
8-f
Gold Digger
Bay 1962
Nashua
Sequence
1952
1946
3-m
13-c
File
Chestnut 1976
Tom Rolfe
Bay 1962
Ribot
Pocahontas
1952
1955
4-l
9-h
Continue
Bay 1958
Double Jay
Courtesy
1944
1952
14-a
1-n
Danzig's Beauty
Bay 1987
Danzig
Bay 1977
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Pas de Nom
Bay or brown 1968
Admiral's Voyage
Petitioner
1959
1952
4-n
7-a
Sweetest Chant
Bay 1978
Mr Leader
Bay 1966
Hail to Reason
Jolie Deja
1958
1954
4-n
2-n
Gay Sonnet
Bay or brown 1969
Sailor
Gay Rig
1952
1956
22-b
9-f
Hookedonthefeelin
Chestnut 1996
Citidancer
Chestnut 1987
Dixieland Band
Bay 1980
Northern Dancer
Bay 1961
Nearctic
Natalma
1954
1957
14-c
2-d
Mississippi Mud
Bay 1973
Delta Judge
Sand Buggy
1960
1963
12-c
4-m
Willamae
Bay 1980
Tentam
Bay or brown 1969
Intentionally
Tamerett
1956
1962
5-j
2-f
Raclette
Bay 1976
Hoist the Flag
Lauries Dancer
1968
1968
5-i
A1
Prospective Joy
Roan 1991
Allen's Prospect
Bay 1982
Mr Prospector
Bay 1970
Raise a Native
Gold Digger
1961
1962
8-f
13-c
Change Water
Chestnut 1969
Swaps
Portage
1952
1952
A4
4-m
Jovial Joy
Roan 1985
Rollicking
Bay 1967
Rambunctious
Martinetta
1960
1961
19>
4-i
Nordic Joy
Roan 1979
Northern Jove
Jumpin Jenny
1968
1973
25>
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 Ancestor duplications:Mr Prospector3m x 4m Northern Dancer4m x 4m    
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Mr Prospector twice, same with Northern Dancer, Danzig, Distorted Humor himself.  Nah, that could never work down under.
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Yes there is plenty of that but it is the wrong type of that. 




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Interestingly enough he has an Aussie as part of his pedigree , Royal Gem who by the looks was a superstar Winning the equivalent of 9 group 1s by today's standard.
He also has a double of Traffic Judge who is the sire of Best in Show (incredibly successful here) , also carries an X chromosome of Northern Dancer ,a double of Tom Rolfe who sits in Street Cry's pedigree also Hussonet's pedigree both very successful here. I wouldn't write him off.
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He is hot in US. Also upgrades mares . Has a 2YO nommed for Flem on Saturday
 
Jimmy is a very smart looking ,eye catching animal in the flesh
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My mate owns a share in the horse racing Saturday.
I got offered a share and turned it down as I have my hands full.
Word from stable is I am going to regret this for quite a while
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My mate owns a share in the horse racing Saturday.
I got offered a share and turned it down as I have my hands full.
Word from stable is I am going to regret this for quite a while
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Don't know much about the sire but I've always liked Forty Niner (13c over 1n) pedigree from the family of Dignitas who also did well in Australia.
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He has the highest AEI from the lowest CI broodmares in 2nd season sires in America.
If that means anything.
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Means a lot. They are the stallions who rise thru sires ranks: despite the low initial service fee; despite not having platitudinous & voluminous BS advertising: & despite the lowly book of mares they start with
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Has one called Knock Knock nominated in Melb and Adelaide this weekend
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Knock Knock paid up for Adelaide
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Got shin sore. Will be scratched
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Spendthrift Farm Announces 2019 Stud Fees, Led By Into Mischief At $150,000


Jimmy Creed, currently North America's number-two second-crop sire, will also see his stud fee move to $20,000 S&N for 2019 after siring 11 black type horses and five black type winners, led by Grade 2-winning 3-year-old colt Kanthaka.
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Anyone have one of his? Any updates? I’m not sure if I’ve seen any racing here yet.
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Only one runner to date - Statement of Faith ran 4th of five starters at Morphettville on 22/12.
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Thanks Red Hare.
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I bought into a Jimmy Creed / Ramsey's Bet colt. 

Ramsey's Bet was un-raced however comes from a successful family - full sister to Booby's Kitten (C) and Camelot Kitten (C), who are both considered to be some of Kitten's Joy top performers. Interestingly Ramsey's Bet youngest full sister (2017) recently sold in the UK for just under (GBP) $1M.......so hopefully some of the pedigree washes off on our young colt. 

They appear to get over ground on both the Dam and Sire's side - up to 2,400m (Turf) and our bloke is certainly barrel chested and appears to be built for much the same. 

Time will tell as they say and many many hurdles to jump before he even reaches the track.   

Hopefully a Jimmy Creed runner hits an Australian track soon. 
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Originally posted by Red Hare Red Hare wrote:

Only one runner to date - Statement of Faith ran 4th of five starters at Morphettville on 22/12.


Won today at Swan Hill, first Aus winner for Jimmy Creed I think. I bought one as a weanling- he’s a yearling now and is very small. Great mover and amazing temperament though. I’m just going to leave him to grow (hopefully) before doing much with him. I’m guessing they are all later types based on his lack of 2yo runners but haven’t seen many in the flesh.
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Best of luck Venus.  He only had 16 surviving first crop foalsand has had just the two starters for that winner yesterday. 
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It's hard to compete when your numbers are so far down on the first season stallions with crops of over 100.
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He also had a runner in Singapore (Magnum Force) a few weeks back which won it's 6th race......60/1 odds and actually won the mile race quite convincingly. Agree they seem to be late bloomers and need a bit of ground. 

Our colt is just being broken-in.........thankfully showing signs of having a good temperament also. 
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Statement of Faith running again this weekend at Morphettville.......a tougher grade so interesting to see how the Filly has progressed from her first-up run. 

Noticed that Knock Knock was nominated for a mdn at Donald but wasn't/didn't accept......so obviously back in training.  
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any updates on runners or the youngsters owned by members here ?
thoughts on a Bernadini mare to him ??
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There have only been a few runners so far in OZ. 

Knock Knock and Statement of Faith have shown the most promise so far - both breaking their maiden status. Knock Knock ran 2nd to a smart type - Peidra - who ran in a couple of Grp 3 races ....... without success though.

Our Colt is progressing well and should have his first jump out in the next month. Good temperament however we are taking our time with him. I suspect you will see the best of them at 3yrs and over a bit of distance. 

Magnum Force is another gelding that runs regularly in Singapore. 

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