Japanese Racing

Strange you should say that about Almond Eye djebel, jockey advised a switch back to 2000 Lemaire) as she failed to comeback under him and 2500 was asking too much? he also stated she didn't handle tight corners ( go figure) , the time LysG ran 2-30 -00 with a nice pacemaker ( who punctured on the corner, Job done!) was 1 sec. outside race record, averaging 12 secs for 200 mts. very close to what we average here although the mare may have equalled it if ridden out, don't bring Waller into it imo most of his imports are very average, I did say most lol,

Watch the way it all opens up for Lane as they come around the bend into the straight.

djebel wrote: Every nation is obsessed with speed. It is the number one function of the racing horse - SPEED. Where Australia kisss up and YOU and your crony refuse to take note is the development of middle distant and stamina horses. Watch 95% of the imported stayers will revert to Australian standard once our trainers have started influencing their performance.  You can almost guarantee if Almond Eye was with Waller she'd be too fast to be tried over 2400m, The same can be said for Lys Gracieux.

Another foolish comment. I am well aware about our trainers and their lack of developing middle distance/staying horses.

Carioca wrote: Strange you should say that about Almond Eye djebel, jockey advised a switch back to 2000 Lemaire) as she failed to comeback under him and 2500 was asking too much? he also stated she didn't handle tight corners ( go figure) , the time LysG ran 2-30 -00 with a nice pacemaker ( who punctured on the corner, Job done!) was 1 sec. outside race record, averaging 12 secs for 200 mts. very close to what we average here although the mare may have equalled it if ridden out, don't bring Waller into it imo most of his imports are very average, I did say most lol,

So 2500m was too far yet she won at 2400m last year in the Japan Cup. Maybe being 3 wide didn't help?

And like Djebel said.  Speed is very important.  The rest of the world can win 2400m Derby's and Oaks with horses out of our speed horses who can barely win over 1200m let alone 1400m. 

Jamal wrote: djebel wrote: Every nation is obsessed with speed. It is the number one function of the racing horse - SPEED. Where Australia kisss up and YOU and your crony refuse to take note is the development of middle distant and stamina horses. Watch 95% of the imported stayers will revert to Australian standard once our trainers have started influencing their performance.  You can almost guarantee if Almond Eye was with Waller she'd be too fast to be tried over 2400m, The same can be said for Lys Gracieux. Another foolish comment. I am well aware about our trainers and their lack of developing middle distance/staying horses.

I am a fool for engaging with you and that clown.

djebel wrote: I am a fool for engaging with you and that clown.

But no - you are not a fool.

Jamal wrote: Carioca wrote: Strange you should say that about Almond Eye djebel, jockey advised a switch back to 2000 Lemaire) as she failed to comeback under him and 2500 was asking too much? he also stated she didn't handle tight corners ( go figure) , the time LysG ran 2-30 -00 with a nice pacemaker ( who punctured on the corner, Job done!) was 1 sec. outside race record, averaging 12 secs for 200 mts. very close to what we average here although the mare may have equalled it if ridden out, don't bring Waller into it imo most of his imports are very average, I did say most lol, So 2500m was too far yet she won at 2400m last year in the Japan Cup. Maybe being 3 wide didn't help?

Have a chat with Lemaire he might enlighten more than me , I'm just quoting fwiw.

Jamal,you have beeon a mission to diminish Winx for years and even when facts refute your claims you harp on.
Maybe you are upset she is better than Rogan Josh or anything that has come out of WA.

I see Lys Gracieux just won the Japanese Grp 1 by 5 lengths smashing Almond Eye in the process. It doesn't make the 2019 Cox plate form look too bad even in a weak year. Just goes to show how good Winx was as she would have beaten Castlevechio by panels.

Also given LG just won the biggest race in Japan by 5 lengths beating Almond Eye she should be rated the best horse in the world IMO. Screw those Euros that can't do much on the world stage on good flat tracks but keep on getting stupidly high ratings

Red Rancher wrote: Also given LG just won the biggest race in Japan by 5 lengths beating Almond Eye she should be rated the best horse in the world IMO. Screw those Euros that can't do much on the world stage on good flat tracks but keep on getting stupidly high ratings

Red Rancher- How many Euros have won G1s on flat tracks in Australia? I think you'll find plenty have.

"Screw those Euros that can't do much on the world stage on good flat tracks" that comment is plain wrong.

kavg wrote: The fact is that if Enable or Crystal ocean or magical had done exactly what Lys G did on Sunday it would be the highest rated performance of the year. I await to see what all the international ratings agencies do.Whether they rate accordingly or continue to be a biased laughing stock. And I am not for one second denigrating the magnificent Enable has done or her friends from Europe.

I personallynthink Timeform should give the performance around the mark of 127 to 129.

In regards to the OR (Official Rating) in which Longines do the ratings and these ratings decide "best horses in the world etc" usually they are a few pounds lower then Timeform due to different methods I think. So I am guessing 125 to 126 at least.

It was a great win. Won easily.

Agree FK. Simple mathematics.