Japanese Racing

Hello,

Stayed completely. Looking at his form HOW did he start such long odds ?

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The race feature the last 3 Japan Cup winners.

kavg wrote: I think Lys Gracieux can beat Almond today.

Distance (2500m) shouldn't be a problem. Lys Gracieux ran 2nd in the Hong Kong Vase at 2400m in December 2018.

Where are you now Jamal.

Lane gave her the perfect ride. Saturnalia and Almond Eye were 3 deep the trip, LG was sitting nicely on the fence saving herself for her trademark finish. Great ride, great mare, well done.

Cox Plate win , mixed her with other CC winner.

Edited by Gay3 - 22 Dec 2019 at 6:41pm

Edited by Gay3 - 22 Dec 2019 at 6:42pm

So right djebel. We can only hope he takes natural improvement of summer and the QE is over unless Lys G comes back. And also hope trainer and owners keep their heads on and stay cool.

kavg wrote: Jamal. What level do you rate Australian racing at the 2000 to 2400 m range?

Pretty shallow. I still stand by this comment. Great that the Cox Plate and MacKinnon has held up in Japan and Hong Kong but the fact remains that 2jd and 3rd tier horses from overseas can still come to Australia and win G1s. Even at 3200m.as well.

This year.was good...nowni has to happen more consistently.

Rw Guineas/Rh Guineas into QE would be better IMO. Although AJC Derby may come into calculations.

Short and sweet, you have summed her up djebel, the way she walked around the yard in honkers with her ears pricked and not a hair out of place , she looked the perfect racehorse, very unlucky not to win the event too, Lys. G. according to reports was her last run today fwiw.

And it happens time and time again when it comes to 2000m to 3200m racing in Australia...2nd and third tier horses from outside Australia do win G1s in Australia, this is why I am critical of Aussie racing at those distances in the past 5 o 6 years and people on this forum can knock me but I'll keep standing by this theory, however - Kav - you mentioned Lys G and Magic Wand...they are world class for sure...I agree.

furious wrote: Jamal you are undermining yourself.  The one's coming are world class the one's just beaten are 2nd rate?  Sure we have lost our supreme thoroughbred in Winx going to stud.  So there is always a changing of the guard and patience is a virture.  But despite everything (AUS) stood up for itself over the spring and hopefully will go a place better in the Autumn.  We have to wait and see.<div id="UMS_TOOLTIP" style=": ; cursor: pointer; : 2147483647; : transparent; top: -100000px; left: -100000px;">

Australia stood up for itself over the spring? No it did not - internationally trained horses won 2 of the majors, plus the Caulfield Stakes and average Euros won the Moonee Valley Cup and the Hotham Handicap. Sorry I can not agree with your comment that Australia stood up for itself over the spring carnival.

Yes I agree..Lys G is world class but you know as well as I do that 2nd/3rd tier horses from overseas come to Australia and win G1s. Some even stay here and race on. Manighar, Glass Harmonium and Harlem (list goes on) to name a few. They wouldn't be winning G1 races in Australia during the period of the late 80s to 90s through to roughly 2010. Seriously....as I have said before...When it comes to 2000m to 3200m racing...we are in a weak era of Aussie racing...no depth at all. It used to he good but now it's not. There was qualoty in numbers....not so much now and has been for 5 or 6 years. Take Winx out (even during her reign) and it's pretty thin. Australia is obssessed with speed