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    Posted: 06 Nov 2015 at 9:04am
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Jameka too strong in VRC Crown Oaks

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Damien Oliver has posted his fourth VRC Oaks win after Jameka ploughed through a rain-sodden Flemington track to outstay her rivals in the $1 million Classic.

Put on the speed right from the start, Jameka raced outside the leader Muzyka for most of the race before taking the front at the 500m.

Jameka was momentarily challenged by Wakeful Stakes winner Ambience before she drew away for a decisive win over Sydney filly Honesta.

Damien Oliver wins aboard Jameka.

Damien Oliver wins aboard Jameka. Photo: Getty Images

Ambience held down the minor placing.

"I had a lot of faith in this filly's staying ability," Oliver said.

"She was going too easy a long way from home. I had to let her go."

Oliver said Ciaron Maher had trained Jameka to the minute.

"She's had a faultless preparation," he said.

"Credit to Ciaron Maher and the staff. Nothing's gone wrong for her. We thought early she had Oaks day written all over her and it's great when a plan comes together."

For Oliver, the win was his 107th at Group 1 level while Maher is celebrating successive VRC Oaks victories after last year's success with Set Square.


Victoria Oaks 2015: Ciaron Maher and Damien Oliver tag team delivers with Jameka

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ust in case anyone needed reminding, this is still Damien Oliver's patch.

On the same day Jim Cassidy rode off into the sunset – "someone I've looked up to ... or maybe looked down to" – this was Oliver's statement of intent. I'm going to ride the race I want and catch me if you can. Almost inevitably, they couldn't.

Once Oliver found the lead they were never going to mow down Jameka in the Victoria Oaks on Thursday.

Sweet success: Damien Oliver rides Jameka to victory in the Oaks Day at Flemington.

Sweet success: Damien Oliver rides Jameka to victory in the Oaks Day at Flemington. Photo: Getty Images

Old man river seems like he has been drinking out of the fountain of youth lately. Ciaron Maher is a fountain of youth training like an old man river with half-a-century of tricks. The perfect light and shade.

"It's extraordinary because he's come from almost obscurity in such a quick time at such a young age," Oliver said of Maher, who won his second straight Victoria Oaks after Set Square's win last year. "I just think his laid back attitude is a great quality to have.

"A lot of trainers' demeanour and attitudes come through in their horses. You can see that with him. He's pretty laid back and laconic and it's a good quality to have."

The same can be said about Oliver. For all the white noise that often surrounds Oliver, nothing ever seems to dent his unflinching neve when on horseback. This major, group 1 win No.107, was a perfect testament to that.

Typically, Oliver refused to be drawn into his place in the racing pantheon. Just a "great to still be competing at the highest level" was his offering to pressmen. But his ability to identify one has never diminished, evidenced by his first musing to Maher that Jameka would be an Oaks filly when riding her at trackwork as a two-year-old.

Maher mused he might have to talk to Oliver about his tactics in the Victoria Oaks, which had his rivals chasing a long way from home. The man on top knew what he had underneath him.

Now it is time for everyone else to start wondering how good will Maher actually be?

"There's nothing better than winning a big race during the Flemington carnival," Maher said. "It's what racing is all about. I'm just thrilled. To be able to do it for the second year it's just amazing. They're two high-quality horses and she [Jameka] has got a bright career ahead of her."

Having already beaten the boys this spring, including Victoria Derby hero Tarzino, Jameka could safely be thrown into the cups equation next spring. And her owners, the majority of whom race Regina Coeli, which won the Grand Annual Steeplechase this year, can start believing.

"It's been an exceptional year for the fillies and they've been competitive against the boys," Maher said. "To win a Grand Annual for them was such a huge thrill and to back it up so quickly in the spring ... I can't believe it.

Having kicked clear at the top of the straight, Oliver would have heard the fast-approaching Ambience, a winner of the Wakeful Stakes on Saturday, loom near the furlong pole.

But just as there looked like there might have been a challenge, Jameka swatted them away like Oliver has done year after year.

Honesta wound up late to finish two-and-a-quarter lengths away in second with Ambience a further one-and-a-quarter lengths away in third.

"There was just no speed and they walked up front," lamented Honesta's trainer John Thompson.

Added Ambience's assistant trainer Darren Beadman: "She was enormous and she had to do all the donkey work to take them up to the leader and by the time she got there she had fired all her bullets."

Hugh Bowman copped a 12-day suspension for causing interference on Pasadena Girl and will miss his first week of a short-term contract in Japan.


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Great ride, great training, classy horse beautifully turned out on a woeful track. 
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Danetime
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Lear Fan
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Be My Guest
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Jameka Wears the ‘Crown’ in Oaks

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Rick Jamieson of Gilgai Farm in Victoria will always be remembered as the breeder of Black Caviar (Aus) (Bel Esprit {Aus}). That outstanding sprinter, though, is not his only credit, his other proteges including her top-class half-brother All Too Hard (Aus) (Casino Prince {Aus}).

As he is accustomed to breeding good horses, it is possible that when Jamieson sold a Myboycharlie (Ire) filly from his mare Mine Game (Aus) (General Nediym {Aus}) at Melbourne’s Premier Yearling Sale in March 2014 for A$130,000 to successful Victorian trainer Ciaron Maher, he might have envisaged the filly playing a starring role at a future VRC Carnival at Flemington. If he did, one might presume that he might have been thinking that she could feature in one of the sprints, bearing in mind that her sire and both her grandsires–Danetime (Ire) and General Nediym (Aus)–had been high-class sprinters, and that her dam had recorded her only victory over 1400 meters.

This filly, now named Jameka (Aus), has indeed found stardom at the Carnival at Flemington as a 3-year-old, but not as a sprinter. Many Victoria Oaks winners are fast, classy fillies who somehow stretch their speed out far enough to maintain their dominance over more dour rivals over the searching 2500-meter course. Not Jameka, though: her Victoria Oaks victory was all about stamina as she beat off the challengers to hit the line strongly in the style of a top-class stayer.

At first glance, Jameka’s powers of endurance might appear to have sprung out of nowhere. If we dig a bit deeper, though, they are easy to understand, because she comes from a family rich with high-class stamina.

Jameka’s third dam Pathos (The Minstrel) arrived in New Zealand in the late 1980s. At that time, New Zealand still stood proud as a source of high-class stayers. Pathos, a winner over 10 furlongs in England in 1987 when trained by Barry Hills, was a perfect addition to that country’s herd. She was by the 1977 G1 Derby and G1 Irish Derby winner The Minstrel from Warfever (Fr), a Grade I-winning daughter of the top-class French horse Luthier (Fr). Furthermore, this was a family which was serving Warfever’s owner Daniel Wildenstein particularly well, providing him with some of his best middle-distance horses including Warfever’s half-sister Waya (Fr), a daughter of the top-class miler Faraway Son who won the G3 Prix de Royaumont at Chantilly and G2 Prix de l’Opera at Longchamp in 1977 before becoming Eclipse Champion Older Female in America in 1979. Another half-sister to do well for the Wildensteins was the listed winner Warsaw (Fr), a daughter of the 1966 G1 Prix de l’Arc de Triomphe winner Bon Mot III (Fr).

During Pathos’ short breeding career (she only had three foals, all of whom won) she visited some of the best stallions in New Zealand. The pick of her offspring was the Sackford (USA) gelding Arigna (NZ), winner of 12 races in New Zealand at distances up to 2300 meters including the G3 Rotorua Cup. To the top-class Sir Tristram stallion Grosvenor (NZ) she bred Jameka’s second dam Aperto (NZ) who was also a good stayer, winning three races up to 2200 meters. Aperto raced in Melbourne, and then stayed in Australia for her breeding career.

It was only once Aperto was at stud in Australia that this branch of the family began to re-invent itself as a source of shorter-distance runners. She visited a series of sprinting stallions, most notably breeding the G1 Canterbury Guineas winner Jymcarew to the 1994 G1 Golden Slipper winner Danzero (Aus), the star of the first Australian crop of Danehill. In 2004 she visited the top-class sprinter General Nediym–who is related to some top-class stayers including 1989 Japan Cup heroine Horlicks (NZ) and her G1 Melbourne Cup-winning son Brew (NZ)–and thus bred Jameka’s dam Mine Game.

Mine Game, a winner in Melbourne over 1400 meters, was thus merely what one might call a first-generation sprinter, and it is easy to see why she could impart stamina into her offspring. In fact, it is particularly easy to see why she could do it when mated with Danehill-line stallions, notwithstanding the fact that Danehill himself was a sprinter who sired many very fast horses.

Of the members of this family who remained in the hands of the Wildenstein family, the one who ultimately provided her owners with the most glory was Walensee (GB), a daughter of the 1979 G1 Derby and G1 Irish Derby winner Troy (Ire). Firstly, Walensee, a daughter of the aforementioned Warsaw, carried the Wildenstein colours to victory in three races in 1985 including the G1 Prix Vermeille over 2400 meters. Then she did even better at stud, breeding a true champion. Her mating with Danehill in 1998 reminded us that Danehill was an influence for class right across the distance spectrum, rather than merely an influence for speed. A staying mare could breed a high-class stayer to Danehill, and few stayers have ever been better than Walensee’s Danehill colt Westerner (GB), who twice completed the double of G1 Prix du Cadran /G1 Prix Royal-Oak, in addition to landing the G1 Ascot Gold Cup (in 2005).

So it has turned out with Westerner’s relative Mine Game. Her mating with Danehill’s G1 Prix Morny-winning grandson Myboycharlie has yielded Jameka, a filly with enough speed to win the G2 VRC Sires’ Produce S. over 1400 meters at two, but with enough stamina to relish the 2500 meters of the G1 Victoria Oaks as a 3-year-old.



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Really liked her run today
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Originally posted by tillyras tillyras wrote:

Really liked her run today


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I've been on her for the Caulfield Cup for a couple of weeks, happy with how she has come back
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What a run. You sure she is going Caulf Cup?

Thought owners were preferring Cox Plate - $41
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I have no idea, might have to look at that too. Just saw some juicy CC odds so I had something on her. Been a fan from Day 1
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Did as I expected today - she has no real fresh form - straight to the mile next start, and she will be in the placings again - 2000m+ is her go, tough as. - it would be a CCup if she were mine (no Winx). 
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have backed about 7 in this race, just love this mare
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Very impatient ride imho.
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Very impatient ride imho.

Agreed. She was a bit on the disappointing side given the stable's massive wrap. Not a terrible run, just not as inspiring as that first up effort. Better runs from the race.
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Is she a realistic cup chance?
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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Is she a realistic cup chance?

Absolutely.


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The way she won today tells me she is a massive Caulfield Cup chance, pending the strength of final field and a run like she got today.
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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Is she a realistic cup chance?


Not convinced yet? I think our Cups horses will be running in the WFA races like the Yalumba/Caulf Stakes/
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Originally posted by Shawy38 Shawy38 wrote:

Is she a realistic cup chance?


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I've been nibbling away at her for the Cc since I first saw a market yonks ago. Will be a massive day if she can get the job done
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How much was she flattered by a clever ride today? Didn't go around a horse & skipped off the inside. Gallante sat in 2nd & finished there suggesting that they had a a fairly easy time close to the speed. Quite a few grinders in behind her battling away, while she takes full advantage of her clear passage, taking the shortest route home & winning nicely.

I think she will improve out in distance again but she'll need to find lengths to trouble Hartnell if they meet.
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Hartnell looks different class this prep but I doubt they will meet.
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Great run yesterday, Cairon has her where she needs to be. Very happy ticket holder now.
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She won like she should have (no other Caulfield Cup types behind her, except for maybe her stablemate).

She will drop to a winning weight. Her overall 3yo form is suprior to Lucia Valentina and Rising Romance who both placed in the Caulfield Cup.

Hartnell is up and running early in the spring, he is a false favourite and even Jameka is too short.

If she gets to raceday, draws a soft barrier and we can still get $6 or more then she becomes a bet.

Still not totally convinced she is a 2400m horse but the Turnbull will tell us more!
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I think the demographic of the Caulfield Cup has changed in recent years, don't get the light weight handicappers coming through and winning the race but high class internationals or the top end horses coming out of the WFA races.

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Stablemate flopped in the CC last year after good leadup form. Has none this year imo. If there's one thing I've learned over the years that is to not get carried away by wins on tracks like yesterday's. At least we know she's in good form.
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Don't remind Nick Hall of the 2014 VRC Oaks.

The gun hoop, who only 12 months earlier had partnered Fawkner to Caulfield Cup stardom, had the pick between two star fillies.

Hall had steered the Robert Smerdon-trained Lumosty to a comfortable win in the G2 Fillies' Classic (1600m) on Cox Plate day, only a week after romping to a two-length win on Set Square in the Listed Ethereal Stakes (2000m).

But Hall, then 27, chose to ride the $4.40 Oaks favourite Lumosty.

"I got off Set Square and it still haunts me," Hall told G1X.com.au.

"Ciaron reminds me every now and then."

There would be no hard feelings between the pair, however, despite Maher and Hall combining for just 11 starts (for five winners) in the 2014-15 season.

In fact, it was a relationship that blossomed, particularly after Hall guided two-year-old maiden Jameka to the 2015 VRC Sires' Produce Stakes.

Maher became Hall's biggest supporter, as they combined for 59 starts in 2015-16, for 14 wins – the biggest, Throssell's Listed ANZAC Day Stakes win this year.

"I'd always been pretty successful for him – we're probably on the same level on a lot of things, both horses and in life," Hall said.

"I knocked around with him at Warrnambool and when he came to Caulfield probably even more so. Then when Ciaron took over [Peter] Moody's horses I got more rides.

"It did lead to more track riding. My work has gone up with Ciaron and down with other trainers.

"I was doing plenty of freelance and a bit for Ciaron, but trying to keep up with the others and Ciaron was too much."

And that partnership has thrived again into the new season.

Hall is set to guide Jameka in this year's Caulfield Cup, after claiming the G3 Naturalism Stakes on her last month, before a stunning second behind Hartnell in Saturday's G1 Turnbull.

And he's got no qualms about riding light, either, with Jameka likely to be allocated no lighter than 52.5kg after the removal of topweights Order Of St George and Highland Reel.

"I'm hopeful, but kind of confident [I'll get the ride] after talking with the owners and Ciaron, but there'll be a final meeting about it," Hall said.

"I really want to win the Caulfield Cup on Jameka. I didn't actually set any early goals [for the spring] – I don't think you can set a race you want to win, you've got to let the horse come to you a bit, but I want to win the Caulfield Cup on her."

Hall, 29, also boasts rides on the Maher-trained three-year-old Kaching in the Caulfield Guineas and Western Australian filly Whispering Brook in the Thousand Guineas this Saturday.

"He's winnable at the mile, he won't have to get that far back," Hall said of Kaching, after the colt's third-placing in last Friday night's G2 Stutt Stakes (1600m) at Moonee Valley.

"I'm skeptical whether he's a Derby type but I'm open to it. I like Throssell, I think he's a nice Derby type.

"And Whispering Brook, [trainer] Simon [Miller] reckons he might have done a bit too much with her. He's freshened her up, she's really versatile, and she's got good natural gate speed so she can settle off the pace."

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I have never been able to warm to Nick Hall. One dimensional rider that gave one of the most disgraceful post race interviews I can remember when he won the Caulfield Cup.
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I have never been able to warm to Nick Hall. One dimensional rider that gave one of the most disgraceful post race interviews I can remember when he won the Caulfield Cup.
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