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Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

If you were to take a deeper scientific respect, then people with Aspergers, or regarded as Retarded/Spastic, and may not even know what they are doing, and thus unintentionally murder, then that is COMPLETELY different.
They are not mentally ill, they suffer from complex neurological disorders.

So to correct my above post, not everyone that murders is mentally ill, as some people do indeed unintentionally murder due to complex aforementioned neurological conditions.



They would not be convicted of murder.


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I didn't assume Monis was a terrorist until they put the ISIS flag in the window.Lamp Which was a year quicker than the police figured it out.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Is this terrorism?


What do you reckon?


Depends on whether the driver has political aims.



Indeed but It's clear PT isn't thinking that way. Made up his mind already


If he had a beard and was Arabic, would you pause to await the coroners verdict?

Didn't think so


did you wait for the coroners or anyones verdict before you jumped in and with your very first post labelled khayre a mentalli ill person?

nope.

so dont ask it of others. hypocrite.
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cabo this is so sad, you unnatural obsession and hatred of PT, it is dominating your life, seek help
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

cabo this is so sad, you unnatural obsession and hatred of PT, it is dominating your life, seek help

He should give Christianity(the real one) a go...I know it helps a lot of troubled souls
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

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Is this terrorism?


What do you reckon?


Depends on whether the driver has political aims.



Indeed but It's clear PT isn't thinking that way. Made up his mind already


If he had a beard and was Arabic, would you pause to await the coroners verdict?

Didn't think so


Coroner, no but you wanting to jump in as a way of defending past Muslim atrocities by desperately wanting to find a non Muslim atrocity shows a warped state of reality


I am doing what you do, but you can't see that. 




I can see what you're doing.

You want your opponents here to jump in early after you've been castigating those people for jumping in early

But you can't see that
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

cabo this is so sad, you unnatural obsession and hatred of PT, it is dominating your life, seek help


Stop deflecting and stalking me. stay in your lane. Stay on topic.
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I can see what you're doing.

You want your opponents here to jump in early after you've been castigating those people for jumping in early

But you can't see that[/QUOTE]

Should there be a need for anyone to point out double standards?
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I can see what you're doing.

You want your opponents here to jump in early after you've been castigating those people for jumping in early

But you can't see that[/QUOTE]

Should there be a need for anyone to point out double standards?
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But you're demanding more double standards being enacted
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The Psychiatric Diagnosis for Martin Bryant horrified me.

      This great Psychiatrist found he wasn't mentally ill.

Isolated due to his retardation , ill treating animals , deluded re haunted houses , Behavioural difficulties throughout his life etc .

Fits the Psychopathic , Paranoid delusional profile .    He did Kill some 40 people and a Psychiatrist says he isn't mentally ill .

He would have been in an Asylum had our stupid Governments not closed them down.     ( The mind Boggles )

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Some people are just bad. Doesn't make the ill, surely
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Some people are just bad. Doesn't make them ill, surely
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Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Originally posted by Shrunk in the Wash Shrunk in the Wash wrote:

Some people are just bad. Doesn't make them ill, surely


Mad and Bad YES .      When you get the two in the one brain,   You get these horror happenings.
GET THEM OFF THE STREETS where their social outings and well being can be mapped with strict conditions , That is the only way of monitoring their reasonably safe existence.
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Who's them, Macca? We now have to lock up every mad white dude and muslim dude? Good luck with that one. Would be worlds largest and most expensive asylum. 
How long are we locking them up for? How do we define someone worth locking up?
Not sure your line is anything more than a lazy, throwaway line, macca, despite your history.

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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Who's them, Macca? We now have to lock up every mad white dude and muslim dude? Good luck with that one. Would be worlds largest and most expensive asylum. 
How long are we locking them up for? How do we define someone worth locking up?
Not sure your line is anything more than a lazy, throwaway line, macca, despite your history.

How many of us on TBV would be locked up???Would anyone visit Cabo?Big smile

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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Who's them, Macca? We now have to lock up every mad white dude and muslim dude? Good luck with that one. Would be worlds largest and most expensive asylum. 
How long are we locking them up for? How do we define someone worth locking up?
Not sure your line is anything more than a lazy, throwaway line, macca, despite your history.

How many of us on TBV would be locked up???Would anyone visit Cabo?Big smile


SUB.    Study the History of the Schedule 5 Psychiatric Systems.
Graded detention ? monitoring of the people who come under the attention of authorities ( the law enforcement = Police , Mental Health etc.)
Most older people state , closing them was our biggest mistake EVER ( I agree)
   Your jump to conclusions is just typical of you trying to act as an authority on something you know F/A about .
FYI ..    The vast majority of people who were monitored under that system were never under lock and Key and their well being was the only reason they stayed under notice or voluntarily accepted the asylum of the quite large populations within the grounds of these Institutions .
Wards were graded from totally self sufficient, up to very secure areas of prison like detention.
People like Martin Bryant usually did well among people of his retarded level and coped well without need to be competitive to survive in a rejecting society .     Institutionalised was a suitable term.
These Places had things like Picture theatres , swimming pools , 9 hole golf , bowling greens and were almost totally maintained by the inmates who enjoyed being part of the outdoor workforce under supervision.
   I estimate less than 10% of inmates were of any danger and over 90% were free to go on leave to family or a responsible person with strict conditions in many cases,   forever if they coped but still monitored.
Understand,   Murderers and other serious offenders who were mentally ill at that time of their crime were housed in these Centres.
That has all changed and the Gaols are overflowing as a result and thousands of people have lost their lives to these types now being part of your community .
There may even be one living at your place I suspect.
Most certainly one at Whales.            
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Does that apply to Muslims too maxie, are there any mad Muslims, or are they all just ideologically driven?
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I know a bit about basic human rights Max, something I am not sure that you do.
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Who's them, Macca? We now have to lock up every mad white dude and muslim dude? Good luck with that one. Would be worlds largest and most expensive asylum. 
How long are we locking them up for? How do we define someone worth locking up?
Not sure your line is anything more than a lazy, throwaway line, macca, despite your history.

How many of us on TBV would be locked up???Would anyone visit Cabo?Big smile

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Does that apply to Muslims too maxie, are there any mad Muslims, or are they all just ideologically driven?


   Yes PT. All Religions and may I add The present wards of today , usually attached to a General Hospital have a prayer room for Muslim Nurses to use according the needs of their faith .

I am well aware that rejection by society. adds to the violent attitudes and behavioural problems of some sections of our community.

I was employed at North Ryde in the mid/late 1980's when many deranged Afghanistan migrants were admitted.      It was very difficult times for all concerned.
You can imagine the difficulty for these people ,   language , the environment they knew was aggression and hostility.
If I remember correctly Russia had been in their home country around those time and the west was encouraging refugees.
    Migration does test the resolve of so many and Institutional intervention occurred more often than some would even dream of .
Muslims in particular congregate in their own areas for the very reason, that is the only way they can cope and it is going to be a long time before that changes in any way.
When I say GET THEM OFF THE STREETS , ( for a period at least )       It means to remove the cause is the first step in addressing a problem.       and That's Drug / Alcohol abusers , Participants in serious or repetitive Crime .Terrorists , Muslims or otherwise .   
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

I know a bit about basic human rights Max, something I am not sure that you do.


Police/ Authorities don't worry anyone who doesn't attract them , for whatever reason.    One punch & habitual drug/alcohol drunks should lose their human rights for a period that suits the behaviour & treatment required.
Do you believe the Martin Place Murderer, Jill Meagher's Killer, Daniel Morcombe's killer , Ivan Milat ,      should have been freed to comply with your civil rights delusion.
Only you Sub , exaggerate your words to try and discredit a System that really worked.   Unions and stupid Politicians have given us what we have today .   That is a very dangerous Society.
Our first civil right is to be safe , especially in our own home.
   I rest my case.
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I want to congratulate you PT for your control ... after all, this must be the second best thing that could happen, after a Trump impeachment!Clap

As for Subbie ... please take your celebrations elsewhere, this is an atrocity against humanity, regardless of any mitigating circumstances.

Let's hope that the ABC and Waleed, and all the other bleeding heart socialist media give this event commensurate coverage to the plethora of Radical Islamic Terror news items that they report on ... which means it will receive less than a nano second of cover ... no?

... or does it go "viral"? ... after all it IS the classic "man bites dog" story ...  
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You are a tool, Dr.  No celebrating here. This is as bad as London Bridge, the bombings in Iraq and Kabul, drone killings by the US etc, etc.
Just never stops, no matter where you sit politically.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

I know a bit about basic human rights Max, something I am not sure that you do.


Police/ Authorities don't worry anyone who doesn't attract them , for whatever reason.    One punch & habitual drug/alcohol drunks should lose their human rights for a period that suits the behaviour & treatment required.
Do you believe the Martin Place Murderer, Jill Meagher's Killer, Daniel Morcombe's killer , Ivan Milat ,      should have been freed to comply with your civil rights delusion.
Only you Sub , exaggerate your words to try and discredit a System that really worked.   Unions and stupid Politicians have given us what we have today .   That is a very dangerous Society.
Our first civil right is to be safe , especially in our own home.
   I rest my case.


People can turn in an instant. Dont pretend for a second you can control the entire population, but you can certainly influence them. Perhaps this guy led a normal life for 30 years before reading headline after headline from UK tabloid rags about how muslims are the enemy and got angrier and angrier, until he snapped.....daily headlines of hate can do that.....
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Interesting that the Finsbury Park attack is being approached as a possible terrorist attack. 

I wonder whether police will investigate people like Tommy Robinson who incite violence against minorities in similar terms they investigate other incidents of violence following 'radicalisation'?

This could turn into an important case

 
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seems its a terror attack, 100 percent.

i still personally doubt the grenfell tower tragedy
if i was to go by gut feelings, i think some white dude lit the building on fire.

todays tragedy has only made me question grenfell even more.

you lose your little white daughter at a concert, only takes one traumatised parent to commit crime/terror in return.

murder should always be denounced.
nobody should attack a mosque.
murder is crime, plain and simple.


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Yes, the "Radical Christian Missionary Terrorists Cells" who live by the Old Testament are a huge issue in 2017... 
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Originally posted by Redemption Redemption wrote:

seems its a terror attack, 100 percent.

i still personally doubt the grenfell tower tragedy
if i was to go by gut feelings, i think some white dude lit the building on fire.

todays tragedy has only made me question grenfell even more.

you lose your little white daughter at a concert, only takes one traumatised parent to commit crime/terror in return.

murder should always be denounced.
nobody should attack a mosque.
murder is crime, plain and simple.




gut feelings, you feelings come out of a lower extremity than your gut, what a load of rubbish. The causes of the fire will be investigated fully without you oh so perceptive assistance
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but doc , it was a right wing extremist, comeon you can say it even though the words leave a bitter taste,  Right Wing Extremist Wink
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Interesting that the Finsbury Park attack is being approached as a possible terrorist attack. 

I wonder whether police will investigate people like Tommy Robinson who incite violence against minorities in similar terms they investigate other incidents of violence following 'radicalisation'?

This could turn into an important case

 

He really is a piece of work, this one. Since London Bridge, talks about how the people will eventually fight back against the scourge of Islam, and when it happens he says this is not the answer. Pathetic little snowflake once he realizes he may go to jail for his incitement of hatred.......
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