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    Posted: 02 Nov 2019 at 11:34pm
Serious question - well almost anyway. Up here in Sydney there has been bugger all coverage on it. I said to a mate today are you having a bet on the Derby. He said "maybe - but the Golden Eagle is of more interest to him". If the Vic's are not worried at how successful the Sydney carnival has been well they darn should be. A real shift in momentum going on.
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There are fliers all over my work place wanting peoples to be involved in $1 $2 and $5 sweeps.

It is alive and well in Newcastle.

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Over here in SA from my observations Caulfield Cup/Everest Day felt very much level pegging. Interest in both meetings was high, and they seemed to compliment each other quite well for a great days racing.

Today the impression was it was all about Derby Day. Interest in the Golden Eagle was minimal in comparison. Again however these are just my observations from being at the track/chatting with friends.

As far as the Cup is concerned, would think that the buildup feels similar to recent years. Perhaps not Makybe Diva era levels of interest, but still the one event non racing people seem to have an interest in. Unfortunately that now includes people who watched 5 minutes of the 7.30 report becoming overnight experts on the 'dangers of the Cup.'
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Serious question - well almost anyway. Up here in Sydney there has been bugger all coverage on it. I said to a mate today are you having a bet on the Derby. He said "maybe - but the Golden Eagle is of more interest to him". If the Vic's are not worried at how successful the Sydney carnival has been well they darn should be. A real shift in momentum going on.


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Nsw and vic win and place totes combined both races


Golden eagle 1.656.000

Derby. 2.381.000


Combines nsw and vic quaddies

Rosehill 1.934.000

Flemington, 5.285.000


Lol if Sydney can’t match the derby , forget about the Melbourne Cup

That’ll have 100 times that money on it

Crowd numbers would be interesting, Rosehill looked (on tv like it wouldn’t have had ten thousand there???)



Flemington would have had triple the crowd regardless of what Rosehill had
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Originally posted by Platinum Platinum wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Serious question - well almost anyway. Up here in Sydney there has been bugger all coverage on it. I said to a mate today are you having a bet on the Derby. He said "maybe - but the Golden Eagle is of more interest to him". If the Vic's are not worried at how successful the Sydney carnival has been well they darn should be. A real shift in momentum going on.


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Nsw and vic win and place totes combined both races


Golden eagle 1.656.000

Derby. 2.381.000


Combines nsw and vic quaddies

Rosehill 1.934.000

Flemington, 5.285.000


Lol if Sydney can’t match the derby , forget about the Melbourne Cup

That’ll have 100 times that money on it

Crowd numbers would be interesting, Rosehill looked (on tv like it wouldn’t have had ten thousand there???)



Flemington would have had triple the crowd regardless of what Rosehill had


Comparing apples and oranges there. Derby Day is Melbourne’s biggest day of the year, the Golden Eagle is obviously not meant to be Sydney’s equivalent with only a couple of new big races and the rest was benchmark stuff.

Overall the new approach to the Sydney spring carnival has done a great job of adding interest in Sydney racing through to November whereas as in the past it was all over by Epsom Day. Whether it goes on to challenge Melbourne racing for interest in the spring remains to be seen but they’ve made a strong start for sure.
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Yes i am sure it depends on were you are based. As a Sydneysider all i can say is that there has been a concerted push to keep the local carnival on the front page. Done a great job with local media ($$$$). Probably doesn't spread as far as Newcastle - no value in appealing to the bottom feeders of the population (only kidding djebel) .
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I think we are still having a Melbourne Cup here in Brunswick Heads oneone.
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Refer my Newcastle comment LOL
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   I heard V'landy had moved the Melbourne Cup to Hawkesbury, on 7th.

He has a 25 million maiden on at Molong on Tuesday.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

   I heard V'landy had moved the Melbourne Cup to Hawkesbury, on 7th.

He has a 25 million maiden on at Molong on Tuesday.


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Moonee Valley was decimated and the manikato stakes field really suffered. I remember when the pools were getting joined together over a decade ago. Whilst Vlandy’s dukes it out sports bettings grip will tighten even more. American sports betting will dwarf these carnivals soon enough anyway.
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Does anyone know of a leaked email directing Sydney media to not mention the Caulfield Cup but to only mention the Everest?
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Don't tell me there are " Trump tactics" infiltrating the racing game.
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Originally posted by early4lunch early4lunch wrote:

Does anyone know of a leaked email directing Sydney media to not mention the Caulfield Cup but to only mention the Everest?


You mean the Murdoch media? There was so much Everest and Eagle coverage in the Morning Murdoch, obviously paid for, that alleged email wasn't needed - there wasn't enough room in the paper to fit anything else.
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CROWD DATE EVENT                    STADIUM
80,214   2/11/2019   2019 Victoria Derby     Flemington Racecourse
20,865   2/11/2019   A-League: Melbourne Victory v Western United     Marvel Stadium
20,000*   2/11/2019   2019 Golden Eagle     Rosehill Gardens Racecourse
14,216   2/11/2019   A-League: Western Sydney Wanderers v Brisbane Roar     Bankwest Stadium
8,252   2/11/2019   NBL: Adelaide 36ers v Sydney Kings     Adelaide Entertainment Centre
6,745   2/11/2019   NBL: South East Melbourne Phoenix v Melbourne United     Melbourne Arena  

* RNSW estimate

Source : Austadiums.com

I am not sure why Rosehill was the only venue that couldn't provide hard figures on the attendance when all other venues have.


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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

   I heard V'landy had moved the Melbourne Cup to Hawkesbury, on 7th.

He has a 25 million maiden on at Molong on Tuesday.


As usual I’ll  be at Hawkesbury for ladies day. Live the later start as well......2.05Clap
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

   I heard V'landy had moved the Melbourne Cup to Hawkesbury, on 7th.

He has a 25 million maiden on at Molong on Tuesday.

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20000 estimated by RNSW=11500
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Is there a source for that figure ?
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Racing NSW website states the attendance at Rosehill was 20,756
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Mistakes were made over 100 years ago. Melbourne should of had autumn and Sydney should of had spring! Weather wise it suits both
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4 hours out nsw tote only, already 11 million

Everest and golden eagles didn’t hold that combined at race jump

At 3 pm will be huuuge $$$$
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