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Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?

This was the question and I am not surprised he had difficulty answering it, his coalition is full of homophobes LOL


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Prime Minister Turnbull, how are the comments of Sheikh Shady Al-Suleiman calling homosexuality an evil act which brought evil outcomes any more abhorrent than Senator Cory Benardi’s suggestion that homosexuality leads to bestiality or George Christensen's likening of Safe Schools to paedophile grooming?

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?

This was the question and I am not surprised he had difficulty answering it, his coalition is full of homophobes LOL


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Prime Minister Turnbull, how are the comments of Sheikh Shady Al-Suleiman calling homosexuality an evil act which brought evil outcomes any more abhorrent than Senator Cory Benardi’s suggestion that homosexuality leads to bestiality or George Christensen's likening of Safe Schools to paedophile grooming?

What do you think?



why don't you answer the question then..??


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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?


funny isn't it, subby and PT want to shovel boat and plane loads of them here with us, but they are totally against any form of homophobia, sexist, racism, bigotry etc etc..

how on earth do these two resolve this one..??


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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?

This was the question and I am not surprised he had difficulty answering it, his coalition is full of homophobes LOL


OFFENSIVE HOMOPHOBIA
Prime Minister Turnbull, how are the comments of Sheikh Shady Al-Suleiman calling homosexuality an evil act which brought evil outcomes any more abhorrent than Senator Cory Benardi’s suggestion that homosexuality leads to bestiality or George Christensen's likening of Safe Schools to paedophile grooming?

What do you think?



why don't you answer the question then..??


 
All religions have a crap attitude to homosexuality would be my answer.
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Originally posted by subastral subastral wrote:

Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Our PM was asked this question & had difficulty giving a straight answer. Thoughts....& if so.....are we not just making it harder to reduce homophobia in this country ?

This was the question and I am not surprised he had difficulty answering it, his coalition is full of homophobes LOL


OFFENSIVE HOMOPHOBIA
Prime Minister Turnbull, how are the comments of Sheikh Shady Al-Suleiman calling homosexuality an evil act which brought evil outcomes any more abhorrent than Senator Cory Benardi’s suggestion that homosexuality leads to bestiality or George Christensen's likening of Safe Schools to paedophile grooming?

What do you think?



why don't you answer the question then..??


 
All religions have a crap attitude to homosexuality would be my answer.


yes that would almost certainly be mine as well..

PT couldn't resolve it so made a funny instead..


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Only one religion throws gays off buildings.

#religionofpeace
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so do any of the major/recognised religions have anything positive/nice to say
in the official texts regarding homosexuality?
 
 
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I do not support homophobia, racism, sexism or most other 'isms by anyone, regardless of nationality, political party, religion, gender. To suggest though that homophobia it is confined to one religious group is just dumb and probably fits an 'ism.
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Originally posted by Ecair Issoire Ecair Issoire wrote:

so do any of the major/recognised religions have anything positive/nice to say
in the official texts regarding homosexuality?
 
 


errr that would be a big fat NO...leaving aside the pedophiles within etc...

why on earth would anyone want to be involved with any religion is beyond me...there I said it, it's out, I don't like religion of any kind..

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Islam hasn't had a Reformation since the days of the pedo Muhammed.

Unlikely to expect Islamic views towards gays changing for the better. Take a trip to the middle East and tell me what you see.

Homosexuality is becoming more open in places such as Lebanon but Lebanon ain't technically a Muslim country.

Otherwise good luck trying to find instances in the middle East. To publicise the fact you're gay is akin to shooting yourself in the head.
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Originally posted by Ecair Issoire Ecair Issoire wrote:

so do any of the major/recognised religions have anything positive/nice to say
in the official texts regarding homosexuality?
 
 

In some mainstream religions like Presbyterians, Anglicans Mormans and others have gay clergy and are welcoming. 

In the Catholic church though it is still officially a sin. 
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Of course PT will never admit this. The left is desperate to suppress atrocities committed by Islamic countries as it's counter productive to their dilution of the white vote.
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Originally posted by LR80 LR80 wrote:

Islam hasn't had a Reformation since the days of the pedo Muhammed.

Unlikely to expect Islamic views towards gays changing for the better. Take a trip to the middle East and tell me what you see.

Homosexuality is becoming more open in places such as Lebanon but Lebanon ain't technically a Muslim country.

Otherwise good luck trying to find instances in the middle East. To publicise the fact you're gay is akin to shooting yourself in the head.
 
 
were jesus and buddha also pedos?
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by Ecair Issoire Ecair Issoire wrote:

so do any of the major/recognised religions have anything positive/nice to say
in the official texts regarding homosexuality?
 
 

In some mainstream religions like Presbyterians, Anglicans Mormans and others have gay clergy and are welcoming. 

In the Catholic church though it is still officially a sin. 
 
 
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being gay is illegal in India..it was made legal for two years but then was changed back to illegal again, and all this was just recently..


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Originally posted by Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks wrote:

being gay is illegal in India..it was made legal for two years but then was changed back to illegal again, and all this was just recently..



So what is your take home message from India's experience, what does it have to do with us. or Islam and why should we care?
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Hillary accepts money from countries such as Saudi Arabia who kill gay people.

The left is desperate to keep a lid on this. The truth will come out.
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Saudi Arabia is the UN's second biggest donor, so does that make every country in the world guilty of whatever you are implying?
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Good thread Fiddles!
I have already learnt from it that subby is not Catholic....
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Originally posted by AndiCap AndiCap wrote:

Good thread Fiddles!
I have already learnt from it that subby is not Catholic....
 
 
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lol..
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Saudi Arabia is the UN's second biggest donor, so does that make every country in the world guilty of whatever you are implying?


second biggest..pffffft why not biggest, they got all their money for free and didn't do a damn thing to earn it..
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No: goodness gracious me. Whatever put that idea in your head? Islam is all about peace, love and understanding.
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http://time.com/3502522/pope-francis-vatican-catholic-church-homosexuality/

Vincenzo Pinto—AFP/Getty ImagesPope Francis leads a mass honouring the canonisation of two Canadian saints in St. Peter's basilica at the Vatican on Oct. 12, 2014.

It's not the big shift people think it is

The Catholic world and the media were riled Monday by a Vatican document interpreted by many as signaling a softer church stance toward homosexuality, but the inclusive tone of the document is a long way from actual policy change.

At issue are three words most people have never heard of: Relatio post disceptationem. That’s the name of the document the Catholic Church’s Extraordinary Synod of the Bishops released Monday, one week into the Synod’s gathering to discuss the state of the family in the modern world. It translates, “Report After Debate,” and it was read aloud in the Synod hall to kick off the Synod’s second week. One of the report’s 58 sections—the one causing the biggest stir—is titled, “Welcoming homosexual persons.”

For a Church that has historically linked the word “homosexual” with the word “sin,” the idea of welcoming gays in any capacity can appear to be a significant move. Headlines immediately spoke of a “dramatic shift” and a “more tolerant” stance from the church.

But before rushing to conclusions, everyone, on all sides, should calm down.

here’s what the document is not:

The relatio is not a proscriptive text. It is not a decree. It is not doctrine, and certainly not a doctrinal shift. It is also not final. “These are not decisions that have been made nor simply points of view,” the document concludes. “The reflections put forward, the fruit of the Synodal dialogue that took place in great freedom and a spirit of reciprocal listening, are intended to raise questions and indicate perspectives that will have to be matured and made clearer by the reflection of the local Churches in the year that separates us from the Ordinary General Assembly of the Synod of bishops planned for October 2015.”

So, what does all of that mean? Cardinal Tagle perhaps said it best when he said at Monday’s press briefing, with a smile, “The drama continues.”

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What is the official Muslim Church's position on homosexuality?
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