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    Posted: 14 Jun 2017 at 1:42pm

Two hundred firefighters and 40 fire engines have been called to a tower block engulfed in fire at a west London estate.

The blaze struck the 27-storey council flats, Grenfell Tower, North Kensington in the early hours of Wednesday morning.

Footage on social media showed the flames had spread over all floors, with reports that people are trapped in their homes.

It is unclear how many people were inside the building when the fire broke out. A number of people are being treated for a range of injuries.

Witnesses reported they could see lights flashing at the top of the block of flats and residents desperately shouting for help.

The apartment block contains 120 homes.

The London Fire Brigade reported the blaze started just after 1.15am (local time) and that it has spread from the second to the top of the building.

“Firefighters wearing breathing apparatus are working extremely hard in very difficult conditions to tackle this fire. This is a large and very serious incident and we have deployed numerous resources and specialist appliances,” London Fire Brigade Assistant Commissioner Dan Daly said.

Just before 4am, the Metropolitan Police said “a number” of people were being at the scene treated for a range of injuries and cordons were in place. Nearby residents have also been evacuated.

“Residents continue to be evacuated from the tower block in North Kensington,” police tweeted.

“A number of people [are] being treated for a range of injuries.”

Meanwhile, the London Ambulance Service said it had sent “a number of resources” to the scene.

One witness said she heard people screaming and could see people flashing their phone lights inside the building.

“I could see it from my garden, it was just there [the fire] a couple of floors, and over the hours it just spread and gone around the left of the building as well,” she told BBC.

“I can’t believe the way it’s gone up so quick. It spread so quick.

“We could hear people screaming, ‘help me, help me’, and flashing their phone lights to let people know they were there. You’re just helpless.”

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This is just horrendous. 


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And this is not horrendous enough to stop normal broadcasting on channel 9.


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Karl and Lisa and a weather person are probably on a London bound flight as we speak 
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No casualties have been yet officially been confirmed amid the mass evacuation, but alarming eyewitness reports of people caught in the blaze have been quoted in reports from the scene and on social media.
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I wouldn't live in one of those high-rises unless it had some kind of escape system.

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That is what would scare me about living in high rise apartment buildings.  And the safety regulations are not policed by the relevant authorities, many of the future slum high rise projects built in cities has non compliant fire proof materials, was a case recently, Chinese rubbish firewalls Ouch
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Cut corners make a profit.  It seems lives don't matter.  Firewalls should at least slow it down!
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devastating incident. thoughts will all caught up in this inferno.

rescue by fireys would be very minimal, it would be great work if they can rescue anyone. hopefully some lives were saved in impossible conditions.

the firefighting ops would be to protect exposures...try to contain the spread into surrounding buildings, houses, etc. thats all they can do.

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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

That is what would scare me about living in high rise apartment buildings.  And the safety regulations are not policed by the relevant authorities, many of the future slum high rise projects built in cities has non compliant fire proof materials, was a case recently, Chinese rubbish firewalls Ouch


we still have asbestos ridden, non fire- rated building products being used now. its a disgrace.
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Sickening. A sad event that will likely be repeated again and again. Way too many of these dangerous tower blocks all over the world. I wouldn't even visit, let alone live in one.

 
R.I.P to the many lost souls.
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Very sad.
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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

That is what would scare me about living in high rise apartment buildings.  And the safety regulations are not policed by the relevant authorities, many of the future slum high rise projects built in cities has non compliant fire proof materials, was a case recently, Chinese rubbish firewalls Ouch


we still have asbestos ridden, non fire- rated building products being used now. its a disgrace.
 
Ask the New Yorkers about asbestos ridden buildings.  Not sure if you saw the article recently regarding people who are now being diagnosed with asbestosis for simply breathing in the cloud of smoke from the Twin Towers.  It takes 20-25 years to manifest and there is no cure.  9/11 is going to claim many, many more lives.
 
It must be horrifying to try to escape from a blazing high-rise.
 
My thoughts are with those who did not make it.  Just awful.
 
 
 
 
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Doubtless this was accidental but how long before terrorists (of any creed or nationality) realise the fame that could be afforded them by intentionally setting fire to similar buildings Cry
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Yes Gay3 and this is a Muslim area .
Watching it very early would have me thinking loss of life could be big numbers .
   Just no way out and the smoke appeared to be coming from every opening.
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Originally posted by Gay3 Gay3 wrote:

Doubtless this was accidental but how long before terrorists (of any creed or nationality) realise the fame that could be afforded them by intentionally setting fire to similar buildings Cry


They sort of did this in 2001 I think.

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Some amazing stories are coming from this tragedy


Baby dropped from 10th floor of Grenfell Tower 'caught by man on ground'


A baby was caught by a member of the public after being dropped from Grenfell Tower as it was engulfed with flames, a witness said.

Samira Lamrani said she saw a woman try to save a baby by dropping it from a window "on the ninth or 10th floor" to waiting members of the public below.

"People were starting to appear at the windows, frantically banging and screaming," she said.

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People assume that buildings are constructed complying to regulations and with safet in mind. Wrong, a study in Melbourne 3 years ago showed that 51% of high rise buildings had incorrect cladding material or it was incorrectly installed.


How bad is that , shows you need to investigate thoroughly but I would say less than 1% do so
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And worse than that Whale, some political parties want regulations or so called red tape removed and unions hamstrung to allow these things to go unchecked.
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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

devastating incident. thoughts will all caught up in this inferno.

rescue by fireys would be very minimal, it would be great work if they can rescue anyone. hopefully some lives were saved in impossible conditions.

the firefighting ops would be to protect exposures...try to contain the spread into surrounding buildings, houses, etc. thats all they can do.


No prayers? Ah, muslim immigrants. Got it.



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Now that it is clear many many lives have been lost I just hope the resultant investigation shows that the starting of the fire was purely an accident.

What they find with the fire safety of the building is another story.




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Yesterday neighbours were saying they reckon it was a gas fire and that along with the new cladding that fueled it, the whole building was being relined with new gas lines. which were up and down the stairwells. 
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Its a terrible thing, but once again Londoners have stepped up to help others in a time of crisis. 
Those poor people.   You just shake your head in horror that buildings can be allowed to be so unsafe in this modern world.
Apart from the appalling loss of life, so many others  will be scarred for life, including the rescue services .
I saw pics of firemen crying, and that tells you how shocking it was.
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

Its a terrible thing, but once again Londoners have stepped up to help others in a time of crisis. 
Those poor people.   You just shake your head in horror that buildings can be allowed to be so unsafe in this modern world.
Apart from the appalling loss of life, so many others  will be scarred for life, including the rescue services .
I saw pics of firemen crying, and that tells you how shocking it was.


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Apparently it could have been much worse but for a group of young boys who stayed up after midnight to break their fast, smelt smoke and ran through the building banging on doors and waking people up. They saved many lives Real heroes
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How brave of the mother to at least give her child a chance.  How brave the man who stepped forward to catch that little one.  He could of missed catching and that would of been terrible also.  People - ordinary people stepped up to try to help and felt helpless.  How brave the firemen who went in time and time again to bring people out.  How terrible the people trapped with no safe way out-  like nine eleven just waiting for the fire to reach them.  I can't imagine there pain and fear or how families cope with loosing people in such a terrible way.  

England firemen, hospital staff, police and the general public have coped too much in the last few weeks.  Those firemen tell the story not only of complete exhaustion but the mental anguish which they and any others that watched that night would be going through.  

It doesn't matter how poor or rich these people are.  We all suffer when these things occur and something that looks nice but is unsafe should never clad a building - be it office or home.  Who knows what caused the fire in the first place - it should never of been that explosive.  The cladding inside and out seem to carry the fire not repulse it.  By crickey that has to be looked into.
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Agree with you on the cladding furious, heard some one say yesty that foam was in between cladding backing, and I would not be surprised, there was a case in Victoria involving cladding in a fire ( I think ) it was to do with Grollo and Chinese suppliers, seems to have gone to sleep , or it's been finalised.
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Originally posted by Carioca Carioca wrote:

Agree with you on the cladding furious, heard some one say yesty that foam was in between cladding backing, and I would not be surprised, there was a case in Victoria involving cladding in a fire ( I think ) it was to do with Grollo and Chinese suppliers, seems to have gone to sleep , or it's been finalised.

Just watched the BBC evening news and it appears cladding could well be the culprit,
they showed a similar fire in France that raced up the side like this one and also the one in Melbourne was the same, I hope they find the suppliers and regulators and throw the book at these bludgers.
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