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Senators and Members, by Place of Birth, 45th Parliament

Overseas

Belgium (1)

Sen Hon Mathias Hubert Paul Cormann

Canada (1)

Sen Larissa Joy Waters

Egypt (1)

Ms Anne Aly

Germany (1)

Sen Hon Eric Abetz

Greece (1)

Ms Maria Vamvakinou

Iran (1)

Sen Sam Dastyari

India (1)

Sen Malcolm Ieuan Roberts

Italy (1)

Mr Antonio (Tony) Zappia

Malaysia (1)

Sen Hon Penny Ying-Yen Wong

New Zealand (2)

Sen Derryn Nigel Hinch
Sen Scott Ludlam

Nigeria (1)

Hon Sussan Penelope Ley

Singapore (2)

Mr Ian Reginald Goodenough
Sen Peter Stuart Whish-Wilson

United Kingdom (10)

Hon Anthony John Abbott
Sen Hon Douglas Niven Cameron
Hon Paul William Fletcher
Sen Alexander McEachian Gallacher
Sen Nicholas (Nick) James McKim
Mr Brian Keith Mitchell
Hon Brendan Patrick O'Connor
Sen Hon Nigel Gregory Scullion
Mr Joshua (Josh) Hamilton Wilson
Ms Rebekha Che Sharkie

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That is all of them  Thumbs Up
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If there are any more politicians that could have a problem, they will come from that list.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

If there are any more politicians that could have a problem, they will come from that list.
OK...however to date it is only two dumbo Greens that have been fraudulent !
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I wonder whether some public servants have failed to administer the law here, since when do govt departments take your word as gospel !
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So far. Ludlam might have a problem, but I doubt Waters will. Her case shows how easy it is to fall foul of that regulation. Hopefully it will be tightened up. 
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Ludlam was apparently written to about 3 years ago for documentation to confirm his staus. He ignored it. 
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He can take his 1.5 mill, and only a computer to show for it, and run; back to NZ i assume! Well, he made his money! at our expense! woohooLOL
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Few of Pauline's mob would possess birth certificates.

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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

So far. Ludlam might have a problem, but I doubt Waters will. Her case shows how easy it is to fall foul of that regulation. Hopefully it will be tightened up. 

 her case seems so ridiculous that she had to resign...1 week technicality...

  
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Piss them off, record a conviction for fraud, fine them, and stamp their papers never to represent again.

They were both previously challenged and put on notice publicly about their fraud, and both chose to run the gauntlet.

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It is rumoured there are a number of others from all over the spectrum that may have problems with dual citizenship. It is up to Bookshelves Brandis to determine what happens to ''offenders'', so I would think with the govt having a one seat majority, it will depend on whether there are any lower house Liberals as to the punishment. Maybe like the travel rorts they will just do nothing or give people the opportunity to update their details.
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Originally posted by cabosanlucas cabosanlucas wrote:

No excuses for anyone with dual citizenship. you dont 'guess' you arent...you go and find out from the relevant authorities and make sure you damn well arent.

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Yes, this is a critical and serious issue and people deserve to be sacked. We can't have New Zealand and Canada spies working in our parliament.
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Originally posted by jujuno jujuno wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

So far. Ludlam might have a problem, but I doubt Waters will. Her case shows how easy it is to fall foul of that regulation. Hopefully it will be tightened up. 


 her case seems so ridiculous that she had to resign...1 week technicality...

  


Yep, so absurd. It's only because they are Greens that the usual suspects want them to resign and be charged with fraud.
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There is a sitting National Party govt minister who is in trouble under the same section 44 of the Act but not citizenship. It is the same clause that forced Bob Day out of his Senate seat. 
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You cannot nominate for the Senate or the House of Representatives if you are

*  disqualified by section 44 of the Constitution

That advice is at the top of the list on the Electoral Commission's nomination guide for candidates, followed by detailed instructions to read the electoral backgrounder on constitutional disqualifications.


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At least the Greens did not blame Mum.



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Maybe understated but spot on.  Wink
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You can become a citizen of a foreign country, without even knowing it ? Sounds like krap to me !
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You can become a citizen of a foreign country, without even knowing it ? Sounds like krap to me !

Easier than you might think. My sister is going through the process for her and her 2 adult kids. A year into the process and neither kid has had any involvement in the process My sister has done everything, and is just awaiting final approval now. Getting a passport will be different as you have to attend interviews yourself but getting citizenship not so
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by max manewer max manewer wrote:

You can become a citizen of a foreign country, without even knowing it ? Sounds like krap to me !

Easier than you might think. My sister is going through the process for her and her 2 adult kids. A year into the process and neither kid has had any involvement in the process My sister has done everything, and is just awaiting final approval now. Getting a passport will be different as you have to attend interviews yourself but getting citizenship not so

But the kids know this is happening I presume?LOL 
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The point is they dont need to, so it is plausible My nephew didn't know till about 6 months into the process They weren't going to tell him. He was doing a lot of traveling and there was an opportunity to get a UE passport, through a citizenship, which they intended surprising him with
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

The point is they dont need to, so it is plausible My nephew didn't know till about 6 months into the process They weren't going to tell him. He was doing a lot of traveling and there was an opportunity to get a UE passport, through a citizenship, which they intended surprising him with

Plausible that a mother would obtain citizenship of another country for their adult child without ever telling them? Plausible that they would neglect to tell them when they became aware that they intended to run for parliament? 

 That sounds insanely implausible to me. It could only occur with a collective, family madness.
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Came across an interesting article trying to find out if Canavan's father was alive. Bryan Canavan is the name of his father. Worked for Nestle at one time.Wink



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So the story which we have concocted after consultation with our lawyers is that Mum obtained Italian citizenship for all 4 of us kids, without any of us ever being aware of it, before or after. And there rests my defence, Your Honours. I plead insanity- Mama is crazy.
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emma alberici had it confirmed from the italian embassy in sydney that canavan is full of sh*t.
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I'm afraid I might wake up one morning and find I'm a citizen of the DPRK.
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