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Can someone do the research please, and find every media report from the past 40 years that opined that the "Australian Property Bubble was about to Bust" ... you may as well take your advice from rusty or Whale.Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

In fact the more a sane person finds out about the predatory, irresponsible lending of the banks, the slacker APRA looks. They should have been far tougher, before the RC.



The Australian bubble is done and the bust looks historic


https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/03/the-australian-bubble-is-done-and-the-bust-looks-historic/



"So there you have it, the heart of the great Australian bubble, arteries choked solid with control fraud. This is absolutely no different to US sub-prime, Spanish lunacy, Irish madness or Icelandic suidice.

No doubt Australia’s captured regulators, which are still denying knowledge of the above total collapse of banking practice, won’t allow a credit-crunching reset of lending rules. Equally, the RC cannot be ignored and the reset must come, just over more time.

But remember, it won’t be left up to them. None of the above touches on how markets will react. As explained Friday, there is good evidence that the exposure of the control fraud is already impacting funding costs and that it will get considerably worse as the business cycle pushes towards its end.

The key to the stronger reaction in Australian spreads versus everyone else is the extraordinary revelations in the RC driving risk through the roof. If the bubble is based upon predatory lending then the banks are liable and borrowers will be able to walk away from mortgages as prices fall. Even lenders mortgage insurance may be moot. This is the “jingle mail” moment.

The end of the Australian housing bubble is visible in plain black and white and the denouement is increasingly likely to be reach historically ugly proportions.

Get your money out of Australia."Wink

Did you really read past this, and keep a straight face?Confused

"This is absolutely no different to US sub-prime" ... What a load of crap!LOL 

Nothing that has come out of the RC was not already known and being dealt with or had already been dealt with - just a political plaything of the ALP/Greens, and few desperate virtue signaling conservatives.

Again, there is literally ZERO evidence that lending practices are any different than they have been for decades, and there is no evidence of any higher default rates - it is just unfounded hysteria for the sake of it.

The thing people should be worried about is the Shorten Induced Recession - will it be another "Recession we had to have"?Ouch
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Originally posted by Mr Prospector Mr Prospector wrote:

They were the rumours that I had heard and some loans officers with foreign language skills spent a lot of time at the photo copier . 

Old news MrP, and hardly a ripple in lending or property terms - a handful of fraudsters who have been dealt with under the appropriate legislation - less than the Union reps who are being prosecuted as a result of that RC.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rusty nails Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2019 at 6:59pm
There really is no end to the stupidity that you spew out constantly.

Remember it was only a few posts ago,where it was explained that whilst APRA may have staff in situ, they clearly have insufficient resources to audit all loans, as you ridiculously asserted.

How can you not understand that home loans are only a portion of what they monitor?

APRA have 600 employees in total, what’s the total of home loans written each month across the country $30B?
At an average loan amount of $350k, that’s 80 odd thousand loans per month to review...

Now, you are suggesting, not only are a portion of the 600 APRA employees vetting each individual loan.

They are actively engaged in a conspiracy to have loans declined (which they can’t do....)
In an attempt to crash the market.

You seriously have zero knowledge of what you’re talking about.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rusty nails Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2019 at 7:59pm
Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Tlazolteotl Tlazolteotl wrote:

The Yankee banks caused the GFC because of a lack of underwriting standards. Since commercial banks are patently incapable of regulating themselves it is a very good thing that pimply faced young APRA regulators keep a tight rein on them. If anything they have been too lax- e.g. interest only loans.

Evidence? ... there is none.

There is a difference between a "tight rein" and "strangling the life out of" ... this isjust a combination of overreach, fixing a problem that does not exist, bureaucracy gone mad. Most of these leftie uni graduates have never had a loan, but they do have their "book learnin" and did have their "gap year", but just can't save a deposit because they are the dregs of their class so they couldn't get a real proper paying job with Macquarie ... and accordingly they WANT the property market to crash ... just like Bill Shorten and the ALP/Greens promised it will under their policies ... hey, maybe THEY don't trust Bill to win the unlosable election?




Whoops!

I was responding to this nonsense ......

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Hey rusty, you get a star - 600 APRA "permanent" staff is correct Star

Do you want another?Big smile

Ok ... how many other resources do they have access to when required?

Oh, and the 4 major banks write $30billion a month you say - are you stupid?Wacko

Ummm, yes they can and they do direct banks to decline loans, even after approval ... WHAT!!!??? ... you mean you carry on like you know what you are talking about, but you are in fact a feckless fraud! OMG, really!!!ShockedLOL

Listen, give it a rest rustard, you are way out of your pay grade here pal, and just embarrassing yourself more than the last time I had to school you and make you into my little bitch ... sorry to remind you!WinkWink

Oh well, at least Whale is hanging on every factual error you spew, and backing you in like another of his false favourites ...Pig Embarrassed

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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Hey rusty, you get a star - 600 APRA "permanent" staff is correct Star

Do you want another?Big smile

Ok ... how many other resources do they have access to when required?

Oh, and the 4 major banks write $30billion a month you say - are you stupid?Wacko

Ummm, yes they can and they do direct banks to decline loans, even after approval ... WHAT!!!??? ... you mean you carry on like you know what you are talking about, but you are in fact a feckless fraud! OMG, really!!!ShockedLOL

Listen, give it a rest rustard, you are way out of your pay grade here pal, and just embarrassing yourself more than the last time I had to school you and make you into my little bitch ... sorry to remind you!WinkWink

Oh well, at least Whale is hanging on every factual error you spew, and backing you in like another of his false favourites ...Pig Embarrassed


Oh dear, poor old Doc proving yet again he’s out of depth in a puddle.
Terrific we agree on APRA staffing levels
Your next point is nonsense, that’s their staffing level, the load is constant, you make out like when there’s a mad rush that they recruit,train, then employ experts for a short time.
You clearly don’t understand managing staffing levels and budgetary restraint.

You still don’t understand APRAs role, it’s not only to monitor home lending of the major Banks.

You have no idea of the size of the mortgage market,and you call me stupid?
Here dummy, a little out of date, but it proves yet again,I know what I’m talking about,and you’re a feckless idiot with a big mouth and no idea....
https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/au/Documents/financial-services/deloitte-au-fs-mortgage-report-2017-050718.pdf

Ummm no they can’t,and they don’t, they review settled documents, perhaps Bank personnel are making decisions with possible audits in mind,but that’s not nearly the same.as usual.
You’re probably confusing it with FIRB approval,if your hopeless record on quoting “facts” is anything to go on .......

If you had any brains you’d be embarrassed for being shown up to be a brainless blowhard yet again.
You need another year in 4th grade.
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For those who don’t want to open the link
Deloittes did a Mortgage report in 2017 that stated total mortgages written in 2016, $385B
(That’s $32B per month for the dummies like Doc...,)
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'Big Short' investor Steve Eisman just joined those sounding the alarm on rising corporate debt

  • Steve Eisman, the hedge fund manager famous for betting against the US housing market ahead of the 2008 crash, is sounding the alarm on the spectacular rise of poorly rated debt among corporations.
  • Eisman – who was a central figure in the book, and subsequent film, ‘The Big Short’ – told the Financial Times that the rising stock of corporate debt rated at BBB, just one notch above junk status, is a cause for serious concern.
  • Stocks of such debt have more than quadrupled since the crisis, standing at around $US2.7 trillion.

Steve Eisman, the hedge fund manager famous for betting against the US housing market ahead of the 2008 crash, is sounding the alarm on the spectacular rise of poorly rated debt among corporations.

Eisman – who was a central figure in the book, and subsequent film, ‘The Big Short’ – told the Financial Times that the rising stock of corporate debt rated at BBB, just one notch above junk status, is a cause for serious concern.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/big-short-investor-steve-eisman-sounds-alarm-on-rising-corporate-debt-2019-1

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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

For those who don’t want to open the link
Deloittes did a Mortgage report in 2017 that stated total mortgages written in 2016, $385B
(That’s $32B per month for the dummies like Doc...,)

Are you illiterate?Confused

You do know that there were more than 4 banks lending money for mortgages in Australia in 2016 ... don't you ... gee I hope I didn't make you feel stupid(er)? Embarrassed

Sorry, I might have to confiscate that star that you worked so hard for ... Ouch

Ok, Ok, ... but this is NOT for another star, this is to RETAIN the star you have.

According to Deloittes, how many mortgage lenders were in the Australian market in 2016?

I'm enjoying this, because, although ALL of the data is there and available, you are just too dumb to find the information that is actually relevant, because you can't even understand the question! ... great amusement! 

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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

'Big Short' investor Steve Eisman just joined those sounding the alarm on rising corporate debt

  • Steve Eisman, the hedge fund manager famous for betting against the US housing market ahead of the 2008 crash, is sounding the alarm on the spectacular rise of poorly rated debt among corporations.
  • Eisman – who was a central figure in the book, and subsequent film, ‘The Big Short’ – told the Financial Times that the rising stock of corporate debt rated at BBB, just one notch above junk status, is a cause for serious concern.
  • Stocks of such debt have more than quadrupled since the crisis, standing at around $US2.7 trillion.

Steve Eisman, the hedge fund manager famous for betting against the US housing market ahead of the 2008 crash, is sounding the alarm on the spectacular rise of poorly rated debt among corporations.

Eisman – who was a central figure in the book, and subsequent film, ‘The Big Short’ – told the Financial Times that the rising stock of corporate debt rated at BBB, just one notch above junk status, is a cause for serious concern.

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/big-short-investor-steve-eisman-sounds-alarm-on-rising-corporate-debt-2019-1


Interesting Whale, but a bit of topic.

This guy has a good record, and might appeal to rusty - he specialises in finding losers.
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Actually rusty, I must apologise!

Upon reflection, not ALL of the stuff that I have commented on can be found in the public domain by accessing websites.

You are unlikely to find confirmation that APRA staff are working in the assessment area of the major banks and carrying out audits of approved loans prior to settlement.

Nor would the fact that they have seconded other resources to do this - as a direct response to the BRC "findings" - or as I call it overreach and bureaucracy gone mad. 

No, the embarrassment of APRA, as a result of the BRC, has seen this response, however, the media reporting is that the banks are not lending.

I know the facts, as I have direct dealings with people in the industry - you could not possibly be aware of it - but on the other hand nor could you credibly deny it like an idiot, as you have - so do pull your head in stupid, you know nothing about this stuff, as much as you troll the interweb and pretend that you do.You just make yourself look more childish with every unsubstantiated denial.
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Nice straw man argument.
Love the way you’ve gone from Pimply faced losers employed by APRA actively conspiring to decimate the property industry by auditing ALL loans by Banks.
To declaring victory by changing your position that APRA has staff in situ carrying out audits.

Not really the same is it .....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Whale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 12:04pm
Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Nice straw man argument.
Love the way you’ve gone from Pimply faced losers employed by APRA actively conspiring to decimate the property industry by auditing ALL loans by Banks.
To declaring victory by changing your position that APRA has staff in situ carrying out audits.

Not really the same is it .....

APRA investigates all banking practices the same way building inspectors  check all high rise buildings, they may have the power to do so but have nowhere near the time
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Exactly the same as the mods on TBV. Not enough resources to keep up with the ramblings of the likes of Whale. Just as well too I’d suggest
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Exactly the same as the mods on TBV. Not enough resources to keep up with the ramblings of the likes of Whale. Just as well too I’d suggest

            Good stuff oneone.   You cleared that up.

I thought Whale was the No1 Mod.
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Exactly the same as the mods on TBV. Not enough resources to keep up with the ramblings of the likes of Whale. Just as well too I’d suggest

Please feel free to advise them of any transgressions worthy of a suspension Wink
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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Nice straw man argument.
Love the way you’ve gone from Pimply faced losers employed by APRA actively conspiring to decimate the property industry by auditing ALL loans by Banks.
To declaring victory by changing your position that APRA has staff in situ carrying out audits.

Not really the same is it .....

So you admit that you have no idea then - that's all that really matters, that you return to reality and stop kidding yourself.Wink
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Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Nice straw man argument.
Love the way you’ve gone from Pimply faced losers employed by APRA actively conspiring to decimate the property industry by auditing ALL loans by Banks.
To declaring victory by changing your position that APRA has staff in situ carrying out audits.

Not really the same is it .....

APRA investigates all banking practices the same way building inspectors  check all high rise buildings, they may have the power to do so but have nowhere near the time

So you don't know anything about building or banking ... I'm shocked!Shocked

Please, Whale, you probably know more than rusty, but that would still only mean you know how to spell "bank" - stay in the wading pool, there is nothing more embarrassing than to see a Whale drowning.Embarrassed


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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Nice straw man argument.
Love the way you’ve gone from Pimply faced losers employed by APRA actively conspiring to decimate the property industry by auditing ALL loans by Banks.
To declaring victory by changing your position that APRA has staff in situ carrying out audits.

Not really the same is it .....


So you admit that you have no idea then - that's all that really matters, that you return to reality and stop kidding yourself.Wink

The world according to the Doc...
Promotes a ridiculous theory about APRA staff conspiring to destroy the property market, so they can get a foothold in the market.
Gets called out on it.
Screams and yells that no one else knows what he does.
Changes his position, reducing his claim to about 1% of what it was.
Declares victory in his usual ridiculous manner....
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Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Nice straw man argument.
Love the way you’ve gone from Pimply faced losers employed by APRA actively conspiring to decimate the property industry by auditing ALL loans by Banks.
To declaring victory by changing your position that APRA has staff in situ carrying out audits.

Not really the same is it .....


So you admit that you have no idea then - that's all that really matters, that you return to reality and stop kidding yourself.Wink

The world according to the Doc...
Promotes a ridiculous theory about APRA staff conspiring to destroy the property market, so they can get a foothold in the market.
Gets called out on it.
Screams and yells that no one else knows what he does.
Changes his position, reducing his claim to about 1% of what it was.
Declares victory in his usual ridiculous manner....
#Sad

Ummm ... since EVERYTHING YOU SAID WAS PATENTLY UNRESEARCHED LUDICROUS OPINION, AND WRONG, I don't need to declare anything ... you do it all for me ... thanks again!Wink

Here's a suggestion, why don't you create a thread, where you can discuss things that you have actual real world experience and knowledge ... I know it will be limiting, but at least you won't have to frantically cut and paste crap that is irrelevant to the thread to try to fool people into thinking you have a clue!Big smile 
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The self appointed industry expert theorises about APRA employees conspiring to decimate the property market,and screams in caps about others patently unreasearched posts......
The mind boggles
Someone has lost touch of reality.
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Originally posted by Whale Whale wrote:

Originally posted by rusty nails rusty nails wrote:

Nice straw man argument.
Love the way you’ve gone from Pimply faced losers employed by APRA actively conspiring to decimate the property industry by auditing ALL loans by Banks.
To declaring victory by changing your position that APRA has staff in situ carrying out audits.

Not really the same is it .....

APRA investigates all banking practices the same way building inspectors  check all high rise buildings, they may have the power to do so but have nowhere near the time

So you don't know anything about building or banking ... I'm shocked!Shocked

Please, Whale, you probably know more than rusty, but that would still only mean you know how to spell "bank" - stay in the wading pool, there is nothing more embarrassing than to see a Whale drowning.Embarrassed



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Do you know how certification works in NSW Whale? ... maybe you could explain it to us all ...
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Quick! ... before rusty does!LOL
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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Do you know how certification works in NSW Whale? ... maybe you could explain it to us all ...

I know how it is supposed to work but doesn't and a lack of proper regulation control 
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and of course there wouldn't be any money exchanging hands for favourable outcomes  Shocked
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Is this how it works Doc, you really are clueless Embarrassed

Sydney apartment owners face $12.5 million bill to remove flammable cladding

How Building Panels Fuel High-Rise Fires

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Hundreds of apartment owners in an inner-city development have been told they may have to cough up $45,000 each in special levies to cover the estimated $12.5 million cost of removing and replacing 10,000 square metres of potentially deadly flammable cladding.

Residents of The Quay in Sydney’s Haymarket are mulling over whether to proceed with legal action in the Supreme Court of NSW against builder Parkview Constructions and Chinese developer Ausbao for a major defect claim.

The owners corporation held an extraordinary general meeting this week to go through the options. One owner, who asked not to use his name, said he didn’t bother going to the EGM because he had “lost faith in the system”.

“Everyone blames everyone else,” he said. “The lawyers get rich as we wait years to go to court.”

The Quay, a 282-unit, mixed-use development built on the site of the old poultry section of Paddy’s Market in Chinatown, is one of 435 identified as “potentially high-risk” by the NSW government’s Cladding Taskforce earlier this year.


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Originally posted by Dr E Dr E wrote:

Do you know how certification works in NSW Whale? ... maybe you could explain it to us all ...

Can’t wait to hear the “experts” view on this

There’s obviously a conspiracy theory involved, tell us all about it Doc, I’ve literally got a dozen mates hanging on every word you shriek.

There is some debate amongst us,whether you’re actually a clever performance artist, or just the frothing loony wandering the streets in his soiled adult diapers,that you portray on these pages daily.
Obviously, IMO it’s the latter.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dr E Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jan 2019 at 9:50pm
Not that I don't trust you when you go off on one of your irrelevant rant Whale, but ... source?

Quick, before rusty tells us it doesn't matter if your asset loses $45k in value for no good reason! Wacko
In reference to every post in the Trump thread ... "There may have been a tiny bit of license taken there" ... Ok, Thanks for the "heads up" PT!
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