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Paris isn't Paris anymore. Donald's imaginary friend Jim used to go every year but stopped going because Paris isn't Paris anymore.

Not sure what it is now, Jim didn't say.
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Paris isn't Paris anymore. Donald's imaginary friend Jim used to go every year but stopped going because Paris isn't Paris anymore.

Not sure what it is now, Jim didn't say.



Your spot on PT .     Paris is much different now .

It's more used to being German Occupied awaiting for the Allies to rescue the Shxt Box.



























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Al Gore Predicts Massive Apocalypse If Billions Are Not Spent On His Books, Films

SAN FRANSISCO, CA—Al Gore spoke at the Global Action Climate Summit in San Fransisco on Sunday and he didn’t parse words. “This world is headed for a global catastrophe of apocalyptic proportions if everyone doesn’t drop all other priorities and redirect all spending toward buying my books and seeing my movies,” Gore said.

“I am not messing around,” he added. “I am super serious.”

Gore went on to present numerous charts and graphs showing a direct correlation between the destruction of the Earth and his profit margins.

“Science deniers can scoff all they want,” he said while aiming a laser pointer at a chart showing his prediction that the Earth will end within five years if his new book does not make the top of the New York Times Bestseller List. “And even that could be too little too late,” Gore said. “To really guarantee that this environmental apocalypse doesn’t happen, my books need to outsell the Bible.” 


Several scientists on the panel agreed wholeheartedly with Gore’s assessment. “The evidence is irrefutable,” said Dr. Sufjan Swami of Johns Hopkins University. “To not buy Al’s books and movies at a time like this is tantamount to treason.” Various experts on the panel all agreed that it was time for all countries and communities to come together and commit all of their resources to the purchase of Al Gore’s books and movies. 

At publishing time, sources had confirmed that Gore then switched to simulated footage of people melting in a massive inferno for buying the latest Stephen King or James Patterson novel instead of his books.

https://babylonbee.com/news/al-gore-predicts-massive-apocalypse-if-billions-are-not-spent-on-his-books-films?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

oh dear look who is the worse. 
Who is going to tell them ?
Is funny but these people who stand up and tell us what for, re pollution etc, never call out CHINA

thirty years ago when the western world became  aware of the danger to the planet, remember the pcb's , airasole cans, fridges etc ozone layer, plastic bags that would disintegrate, what happened to those?
CHINA entered the production market. All rules were then thrown out the window.
Where have been the prophets of doom then?
making money from cheap stuff coming out of CHINA of course.
Andrew Forrest, FMG, made his pile flogging cheap grade iron ore to CHINA, who then polluted themselves, and the world, turning it into something for the western world to buy.
Open slather began on the worlds atmosphere. 
Yea sure we could stop digging and selling oour coal, but what of other countries.

So, go and tell CHINA. the world cannot have its cake, and eat it to!!

Top 5 most polluting countries
  1. China (30%) The world's most populated country has an enormous export market, which has seen its industry grow to become a serious danger to the planet. ...
  2. United States (15%) The world's biggest industrial and commercial power. ...
  3. India (7%) ...
  4. Russia (5%) ...
  5. Japan (4%)

World growth a toxic danger for the environment

If the world’s population keeps growing, and the poor world’s living standards keep catching up with the rich world’s, how on earth will the environment cope with the huge increase in extraction, processing and disposal of material resources?

It’s a question many people wonder and worry about – without much sign it’s even crossed the mind of the world’s governments.

Until now. The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development is about to publish a Global Material Resources Outlook, which uses much fancy modelling to make an educated guess about what’s likely to happen in the future.he report projects that, over the 50 years to 2060, annual global use of materials – including metals, fossil fuels, biomass (food and fibres) and non-metallic minerals (mainly sand, gravel, limestone and other building materials) – will more than double, from 79 gigatonnes in 2011 to 167 Gt in 2060. Gosh.

So how did the report reach that figure? It started by estimating the likely growth in the world’s population. Although its rate of growth is expected to slow, the world population could increase from 7 billion to 10 billion by 2060.At the same time, material living standards in the developing countries are expected to continue converging on those of the developed countries.

Gross domestic product per person is expected to continue growing at a much faster rate in the poorer countries than the rich ones. So much so that, by 2060, the global level of real GDP per person is expected to have reached where it was for just the (richer) OECD countries in 2011.

This implies a tripling in global income per person to about $US40,000 a year – after adjusting for PPP, purchasing-power parity, to allow for one US dollar buying a lot more in a poor country than it does Stateside. The fastest catch-up will be in China and, to a lesser extent, India and south-east Asia.

That’s good news for the world’s non-rich. It would be a bit rich for the well-off countries to expect the poor countries to stay poor just to reduce pressure on the natural environment in a way we’re not prepared to.

Multiply world population by world income per person and you get world GDP. It’s expected to quadruple.

Even so, its rate of growth may slow. Whereas at the turn of the century world GDP was growing at an average rate of about 3.5 per cent a year, it’s expected to stabilise at a rate of less than 2.5 per cent well before we reach 2060.

(Why? Partly because of arithmetic. It’s much easier for a small number to grow by a high percentage than for a big number to. But also because, when you’re way behind, it’s relatively easy to catch up with the world’s technological frontrunner, the US, by adopting its better existing technology. Once you’ve done the easy bits, however, it gets harder to grow as fast. China will account for much of the global slowing.)

But hang on. If world GDP is expected to quadruple, how come materials is expected only to double?

It’s because other things – helpful things – will be going on at the same time. The first is that the world economy is “dematerialising”.Machines and gadgets are getting smaller and using less metal, but more to the point is the “servitisation” of the world economy (there’s a new ugly buzz word to add to your collection) – the tendency for more of each dollar we spend to go on services rather than goods.

Services have lower materials “intensity” – materials use per unit of output - than goods. The shift in the mix from goods to services is a function of economic development. When you’re poor the main thing you want is more goods, but as you get richer there’s a limit to how much you want to eat or wear and how many cars and TV sets you need. But there’s no limit to how many things you’d like to pay other people to do for you.

This shift is already well advanced in the rich countries, but the poor countries have a lot of infrastructure and housing to build (and a lot of cars and TV sets to buy) before they begin to approach material satiation.

The share of services in world GDP is projected to rise from 50 per cent to 54 per cent over the 50 years.A second helpful factor is that technological advance should increase the efficiency with which materials are used. The two factors are projected to reduce the materials intensity of world GDP at the faster average rate of 1.3 per cent a year.

So, the report finds, were materials used to keep up with economic growth, annual use would increase by 283 Gt to 362 Gt. But the shift to services will reduce that increase by 111 Gt and technological advance will reduce it by 84 Gt, meaning materials use rises to just 167 Gt in 2060.

It would be a bit rich for the well-off countries to expect the poor countries to stay poor just to reduce pressure on the natural environment in a way we’re not prepared to.

Note, however, that this is growth in “primary” materials extraction, not “secondary” use of recycled materials, which the report says is likely to become more competitive and grow at the same rate. So increased recycling is another factor helping to explain the lesser growth in primary extraction.

With GDP growing faster than materials use, the report is expecting a partial “decoupling” of the two.

Of course, there’ll still be a big increase in pollution. Greenhouse gas emissions, but also acidification, freshwater aquatic ecotoxicity, terrestrial ecotoxicity, human toxicity via inhalation or the food chain, photochemical oxidation (smog), ozone layer depletion, and not forgetting increased land fill to dump the materials when we’re done with them.

Final point: this “baseline scenario” assumes no change in government policy. That’s the point: it’s intended to show the world’s governments how great is the need for them to make a policy response.

Such as? I’d like to see a tax on materials use, with the proceeds used to reduce the tax on labour income. Similar to a price on carbon, this would do much to encourage recycling, repair and renovation, and economising in the use of materials.

Ross Gittins is the Herald’s economics editor.

https://www.watoday.com.au/business/the-economy/world-growth-a-toxic-danger-for-the-environment-20181026-p50c3l.html

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Belt it into the brain enough and finally people believe it.
It's delusional actually.
Climate change is the flavour of the month now .
It was Religion yesterday.
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Originally posted by maccamax maccamax wrote:

Belt it into the brain enough and finally people believe it.
It's delusional actually.
Climate change is the flavour of the month now .
It was Religion yesterday.
     How many supposed Gods are there ?

Donald Trump.
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Stilling: The curious case of land wind speed decline

Updated yesterday at 8:33amAll over the world, the wind is slowing. Bit by bit, low-level land wind speeds have been decreasing since reliable records began in the 1970s. It is called "the stilling".

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  • Researchers eventually realised a decrease in pan evaporation rates was due to a decrease in wind speeds
  • Theories abound as to why wind speeds have steadily decreased, but nobody yet knows for sure
  • An ongoing program, funded by the European Union, is investigating the potential effects of the phenomenon

The decline was silently sneaking through under the radar until Australian National University professor Michael Roderick and his colleagues made a mistake.

They noticed that the pan evaporation rates in the Northern Hemisphere were going down — not what you would intuitively expect in a warming world.

The pan evaporation rate is a measure of how quickly water evaporates from a pan, which is useful to know in relation to water storage and soil dryness.

They concluded it must have been because of increased pollution or potentially increased cloud cover blocking the sun.

But they were missing something."Shortly after doing that work I was asked what was happening in Australia and I didn't know, to my embarrassment," Professor Roderick said.

When he did look at pan evaporation rates in Australia, they turned out to be decreasing like the rest of the world.

This threw a major spanner in the works, because if increased pollution alone was to blame, the evaporation rates in relatively clean Australia would not have been affected.

This sent Professor Roderick back to the drawing boar

Solving the mystery

He set about trying to answer the question, if it is not pollution, then why are evaporation rates going down?

Researchers were forced to look at other potential culprits.

The key processes that affect how water evaporates are the amount of sunlight, the temperature, humidity, and wind speed.

After going through mountains of records, Professor Roderick worked out it must have been the wind.

He found that wind speeds over land had been decreasing since the 1970s.

The answer that posed more questions

But this solution threw up more questions. After all, why would land wind speeds be going down?

Even stranger, the decline in wind speeds only appears to be happening over land, not over the oceans.

"I can't give you an explanation that will satisfy your readers as to why this is happening. I just know that it is," Professor Roderick said.

But there are a few theories.

One is that increased carbon dioxide is fuelling tree and plant growth, which is increasing surface friction and reducing surface wind speeds. Basically, there is more stuff on the surface getting in the way.

Professor Roderick's pet theory is that as the climate warms, the differences in temperature between the equator and the poles will be less.

Wind, after all, is just the movement of air from high to low pressure. So if temperature and pressure is more even around the world, there will be less reason for the wind to blow.

There are still many unknowns

But many questions remain. Is it just at the surface? Why is it only happening over land and not on the oceans?

Is it a problem? Should we be trying to fix it?

"I think the idea of stopping it or fixing it, that comes from the idea that things are either good or bad," Professor Roderick said.

"What we're really doing is just saying there's a change, so it's different. We're not saying it's good or bad or whatever."

These questions are being worked on by an ongoing program funded by the European Union.

What about wind farms?

The obvious industry that could be affected is wind farming, but at the moment it is hard to know by how much.

Current studies have only looked at wind speeds 2 metres above the surface.

"An important thing to remember is a modern wind farm is typically 100m above the surface, so what's happening up there could be a little bit different. Could be a lot different actually," Professor Roderick said.

The stilling is happening and until we know more, we will have to watch and see how the wind blows.https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-27/land-wind-speeds-slowing-down-over-land-the-stilling/10392980

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2 metres above the surface. Ha ha her hee. 😘😁
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donnies far right mate bolsonaro has just been elected president of Brazil. He has supported donalds move to withdraw from the Paris agreement and has indicated he will open up the amazon for agriculture and housing. Is an environmental disaster on the cards?
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Originally posted by marble marble wrote:

donnies far right mate bolsonaro has just been elected president of Brazil. He has supported donalds move to withdraw from the Paris agreement and has indicated he will open up the amazon for agriculture and housing. Is an environmental disaster on the cards?

Being reported today that police are entering university classrooms and interrogating professors. Arrests will follow of teachers and media people. The Constitution will be suspended and military will be on the streets. It is going to get ugly in Brazil, another Turkey. Donnie is taking notes. 
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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by marble marble wrote:

donnies far right mate bolsonaro has just been elected president of Brazil. He has supported donalds move to withdraw from the Paris agreement and has indicated he will open up the amazon for agriculture and housing. Is an environmental disaster on the cards?

Being reported today that police are entering university classrooms and interrogating professors. Arrests will follow of teachers and media people. The Constitution will be suspended and military will be on the streets. It is going to get ugly in Brazil, another Turkey. Donnie is taking notes. 
But he was elected right - just like Trump
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Has made anti black remarks, misogynist and homophobic just like his hero Don.  Another piece of trash elected Ouch
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by marble marble wrote:

donnies far right mate bolsonaro has just been elected president of Brazil. He has supported donalds move to withdraw from the Paris agreement and has indicated he will open up the amazon for agriculture and housing. Is an environmental disaster on the cards?

Being reported today that police are entering university classrooms and interrogating professors. Arrests will follow of teachers and media people. The Constitution will be suspended and military will be on the streets. It is going to get ugly in Brazil, another Turkey. Donnie is taking notes. 
But he was elected right - just like Trump

So were Tones and the Toff. Didn't stop Libs, their very own from knifing them. 

If you make a mistake....stab your way out of it.
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Originally posted by oneonesit oneonesit wrote:

Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by marble marble wrote:

donnies far right mate bolsonaro has just been elected president of Brazil. He has supported donalds move to withdraw from the Paris agreement and has indicated he will open up the amazon for agriculture and housing. Is an environmental disaster on the cards?


Being reported today that police are entering university classrooms and interrogating professors. Arrests will follow of teachers and media people. The Constitution will be suspended and military will be on the streets. It is going to get ugly in Brazil, another Turkey. Donnie is taking notes. 

But he was elected right - just like Trump


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Originally posted by Passing Through Passing Through wrote:

Originally posted by marble marble wrote:

donnies far right mate bolsonaro has just been elected president of Brazil. He has supported donalds move to withdraw from the Paris agreement and has indicated he will open up the amazon for agriculture and housing. Is an environmental disaster on the cards?

Being reported today that police are entering university classrooms and interrogating professors. Arrests will follow of teachers and media people. The Constitution will be suspended and military will be on the streets. It is going to get ugly in Brazil, another Turkey. Donnie is taking notes. 

When they finish, can they clean out our universities too? Big smile
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