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djebel
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Just might be the best So You Think so far.
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reductio ad absurdum
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Interestingly his4yo 3/4 sister by High Chaparral is absolutely legless.
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Sacked from the McEvoy yard.
Who are the trainers she has had since ? She is still a valuable breeding proposition. Too many nicely bred mares in Australia end up in the wrong hands.
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reductio ad absurdum
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when it constantly gets beaten by 10 length I doub5 the trainer is the issue. Especially when it’s had 3
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Clearly no patience was shown by Adelaide's premier trainer.
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Another impressive win today.
So You Think has two good rising 3yo colts to go into battle for him next season.
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reductio ad absurdum
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He's had a good season just making it to 100 winners. Did you see he had a daughter pick up a LR in France over 2800m this week.
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Also Peltzer is from the old Mill Reef/Pipe of Peace family so you'd think eventually he'd go out over a trip.
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You can't blame High Chaparral. None of the first three filly foals ran well. THe More than Ready is up in Darwin finishing last. But you also can't blame the breeder they are putting her to good stallions. It really makes you wonder how this boy made $260,000 as a yearling with the poor showings from the first few foals. He's obviously got all the good genes but there must of been plenty of bad ones for the others to be such failures. Either that or this is a colt family with the fillies only worth anything at stud.
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I always like to see that Never Bend / Bold Reason mix also. But that would have been in the High Chaparral filly. It's worked here that is for sure.
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What was the name of the winner, the date and the name of the race? I assume it was a handicap? I ask these questions because I keep a list of all of So You Thinks stakes/black tyoe (Group/Listed) wins as a sire. Any help is appreciated. |
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Australian racing is only good up to 1400m in terms of world standards when it comes to depth/quality in numbers
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Hi Jamal,
The SYT winner in France last week was a 4yo mare called Think of Me. The race was 2800m Listed at Deauville called the Prix Gold River. Named after Gold River who won the 1981 Arc De Triopmphe when ridden by Aussie born jockey Gary Moore. |
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Lord Hybrow - thanks very much for your help.
So You Think's Stakes (Group/Listed) Winners http://www.thoroughbredinternet.com/stakes.php?fromdate=0&Day=&Month=&Year=&Name=&Track=&Status=&Surface=&County=&Country=&Hemi=&Horse=&HorseSuffix=&Sire=so+you+think&Dam=&BSire=&Breeder=&BreederSuffix=&Winners=Win&Jumps=No&Submit=Search SW = Set Weights HCP = Handicap QLTY = Quality WFA = Weight For Age SWP = Set Weights Plus Penalties 2016 (4) 27th of February: Gold Rush: Group 2 Breeders Stakes (1200m SW at Matamata, New Zealand) 17th of September: La Diosa: Listed Canterbury Belle Stakes (1200m SW at Riccarton, New Zealand) 15th of October: La Diosia: Listed John Griggs Stakes (1400m SW at Ashburton, New Zealand) 12th of November: La Diosia: Group 1 NZ 1,000 Guineas (1600m SW at Riccarton, New Zealand) 2017 (5) 22nd of January: Northwest Passage: Listed Hobart Guineas: (2100m SW at Hobart, Australia) 3rd of February: Northwest Passage: Listed Tasmanian Darby (2200m SW at Hobart, Australia) 17th of February: Northwest Passage: Listed Torney Night Cup (2500m HCP at Mooney Valley, Australia) 25th February: La Diosa: Group 2 Surround Stakes (1400m SW at Randwick, Australia) 4th of March: Inference: Group 1 Randwick Guineas: (1600m SW at Randwick, Australia) 2018 (10) 17th of February: Global Thinking: Listed Southlake Guineas (1600m SW at Invercargill, New Zealand) 23rd of March: Think Bleue: Group 3 Alexandra Stakes (1600m HCP at Moonee Valley, Australia) 24th of March: D'Argento: Group 1 Rosehill Guineas (2000m SW at Rosehill, Australia) 24th of March: The Pinnacle: Group 3 Epona Stakes (1900m HCP at Rosehill, Australia) 11th of April: Mr Marathon Man: Listed Prix Jacques Laffitte (1800m HCP at Longchamp, France) 21st of April: Higher Ground: Group 3 Frank Packer Plate (2000m SW at Randwick, Australia) 21st of April: Sopressa: Group 3 Auraria Stakes (1800m SW at Morphetville, Australia) 5th of May: Sopressa: Group 1 Australasian Oaks (2000m SW at Morphetville, Australia) 26th of May: Heavenly Thought: Group 3 Grand Prix Stakes (2200m SW at Eagle Farm, Australia) 26th December: So Si Bon: Listed Lord Stakes (1700m HCP at Caulfield, Australia) 2019 (12) 16th of February: Nakeeta Jane: Group 2 Light Fingers Stakes (1200m SW at Randwick, Australia) 2nd of March: Nakeeta Jane: Group 1 Surround Stakes (1400m SW at Randwick, Australia) 13th of April: Fasika: Listed South Pacific Classic (1400m SW at Randwick, Australia) 20th of April: Quick Thinker: Listed Champagne Stakes (1600m SW at Auckland, New Zealand) 11th of May: So We Are: Listed Adelaide Guineas (1600m SW at Morphetville, Australia) 1st of June: Coachwhip: Group 3 Arlington Matron Stakes (1800m HCP at Churchill Downs, America) 10th of August: So Si Bon: Group 3 Auries Star Handicap (1200m HCP at Flemington, Australia) 31st of August: Quick Thinker: Group 3 Ming Dynasty Quality (1400m HCP at Rosehill) 14th of September: Just Thinkin: Listed Dulcify Stakes (1500m SWP at Rosehill) 19th of October: Thought Of That: Group 3 Ladbrokes Classic (2000m SW at Caulfield) 23rd of October: Long Jack: Listed Geelong Classic (2200m SW at Geelong, Australia) 7th of December: Beautiful Mind: Listed Jungle Dawn Classic (1400m SW at Ascot, Australia) 2020 (6) 8th of February: Miss Siska: Group 3 Carlyon Cup (1600m SWP at Caulfield, Australia) 22nd of February: Miss Siska: Group 2 Peter Young Stakes (1800m WFA at Caulfield, Australia) 7th of March: Fasika: Group 3 Winona Girl Quality (1200m HCP at Randwick, Australia) 28th of March: Quick Thinker: Group 2 Tulloch Stakes (2000m SW at Rosehill, Australia) 4th of April: Quick Thinker: Group 1 ATC Derby (2400m SW at Randwick, Australia) 21st of May: Think Of Me: Listed Prix Gold River - Fonds Europeen de l'Elevage (2800m HCP at Deauville, France) |
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Sorry i forgot Realms Of Flowers from the 1 6th of May
So You Think's Stakes (Group/Listed) Winners http://www.thoroughbredinternet.com/stakes.php?fromdate=0&Day=&Month=&Year=&Name=&Track=&Status=&Surface=&County=&Country=&Hemi=&Horse=&HorseSuffix=&Sire=so+you+think&Dam=&BSire=&Breeder=&BreederSuffix=&Winners=Win&Jumps=No&Submit=Search SW = Set Weights HCP = Handicap QLTY = Quality WFA = Weight For Age SWP = Set Weights Plus Penalties 2016 (4) 27th of February: Gold Rush: Group 2 Breeders Stakes (1200m SW at Matamata, New Zealand) 17th of September: La Diosa: Listed Canterbury Belle Stakes (1200m SW at Riccarton, New Zealand) 15th of October: La Diosia: Listed John Griggs Stakes (1400m SW at Ashburton, New Zealand) 12th of November: La Diosia: Group 1 NZ 1,000 Guineas (1600m SW at Riccarton, New Zealand) 2017 (5) 22nd of January: Northwest Passage: Listed Hobart Guineas: (2100m SW at Hobart, Australia) 3rd of February: Northwest Passage: Listed Tasmanian Darby (2200m SW at Hobart, Australia) 17th of February: Northwest Passage: Listed Torney Night Cup (2500m HCP at Mooney Valley, Australia) 25th February: La Diosa: Group 2 Surround Stakes (1400m SW at Randwick, Australia) 4th of March: Inference: Group 1 Randwick Guineas: (1600m SW at Randwick, Australia) 2018 (10) 17th of February: Global Thinking: Listed Southlake Guineas (1600m SW at Invercargill, New Zealand) 23rd of March: Think Bleue: Group 3 Alexandra Stakes (1600m HCP at Moonee Valley, Australia) 24th of March: D'Argento: Group 1 Rosehill Guineas (2000m SW at Rosehill, Australia) 24th of March: The Pinnacle: Group 3 Epona Stakes (1900m HCP at Rosehill, Australia) 11th of April: Mr Marathon Man: Listed Prix Jacques Laffitte (1800m HCP at Longchamp, France) 21st of April: Higher Ground: Group 3 Frank Packer Plate (2000m SW at Randwick, Australia) 21st of April: Sopressa: Group 3 Auraria Stakes (1800m SW at Morphetville, Australia) 5th of May: Sopressa: Group 1 Australasian Oaks (2000m SW at Morphetville, Australia) 26th of May: Heavenly Thought: Group 3 Grand Prix Stakes (2200m SW at Eagle Farm, Australia) 26th December: So Si Bon: Listed Lord Stakes (1700m HCP at Caulfield, Australia) 2019 (12) 16th of February: Nakeeta Jane: Group 2 Light Fingers Stakes (1200m SW at Randwick, Australia) 2nd of March: Nakeeta Jane: Group 1 Surround Stakes (1400m SW at Randwick, Australia) 13th of April: Fasika: Listed South Pacific Classic (1400m SW at Randwick, Australia) 20th of April: Quick Thinker: Listed Champagne Stakes (1600m SW at Auckland, New Zealand) 11th of May: So We Are: Listed Adelaide Guineas (1600m SW at Morphetville, Australia) 1st of June: Coachwhip: Group 3 Arlington Matron Stakes (1800m HCP at Churchill Downs, America) 10th of August: So Si Bon: Group 3 Auries Star Handicap (1200m HCP at Flemington, Australia) 31st of August: Quick Thinker: Group 3 Ming Dynasty Quality (1400m HCP at Rosehill) 14th of September: Just Thinkin: Listed Dulcify Stakes (1500m SWP at Rosehill) 19th of October: Thought Of That: Group 3 Ladbrokes Classic (2000m SW at Caulfield) 23rd of October: Long Jack: Listed Geelong Classic (2200m SW at Geelong, Australia) 7th of December: Beautiful Mind: Listed Jungle Dawn Classic (1400m SW at Ascot, Australia) 2020 (7) 8th of February: Miss Siska: Group 3 Carlyon Cup (1600m SWP at Caulfield, Australia) 22nd of February: Miss Siska: Group 2 Peter Young Stakes (1800m WFA at Caulfield, Australia) 7th of March: Fasika: Group 3 Winona Girl Quality (1200m HCP at Randwick, Australia) 28th of March: Quick Thinker: Group 2 Tulloch Stakes (2000m SW at Rosehill, Australia) 4th of April: Quick Thinker: Group 1 ATC Derby (2400m SW at Randwick, Australia) 16th of May: Realm Of Flowers: Group 3 South Australian Fillies Classic (2500m SW at Morphetville, Australia) 21st of May: Think Of Me: Listed Prix Gold River - Fonds Europeen de l'Elevage (2800m HCP at Deauville, France) |
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I hope they haven not blown a 2yo group 1 win for this fella by not going to Brisbane ?
Of course we will never know but gee it looks a lost opportunity.
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