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Bagging stallions is a hobby on here .
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Originally posted by Glencoe Glencoe wrote:


He is another Alan Bell promotion.  Alan is a proven judge, but this bloke didn't quite get there at the vey top.
Mind you he wasn't far off. Many of us would have loved to own him as a racehorse


Deep Field- Fatest horse etc.

Same fee and no G1 wins.
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Originally posted by Pazman Pazman wrote:

Originally posted by Glencoe Glencoe wrote:


He is another Alan Bell promotion.  Alan is a proven judge, but this bloke didn't quite get there at the vey top.
Mind you he wasn't far off. Many of us would have loved to own him as a racehorse


Deep Field- Fatest horse etc.

Same fee and no G1 wins.


Fastest or fattest?
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Originally posted by Paul Hogan Paul Hogan wrote:

Ridiculously overpriced.

His Sire is struggling himself 58% Winners to runners and is standing for 33k after years of opportunity.

Based on that they can't ask for more than around 27% his Sires fee.
Should be asking 9k dealing down to 7k.

Good bone and muscle give me a break, how long have you been working there?

  And what do you look for ?

these look pretty good to me. 

http://vinery.com.au/news/star-turns-first-crop-of-future-stars

STAR TURN (AUS)

Sire: Star Witness
Dam: Golden Delicious
Dam Sire: Made Of Gold
Born: 2013
Colour: Chestnut
Size: 16.1HH
Commenced Stud Duties: 2017
Service Fee: $22,000
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Originally posted by Einstein Einstein wrote:

Originally posted by Paul Hogan Paul Hogan wrote:

Ridiculously overpriced.

His Sire is struggling himself 58% Winners to runners and is standing for 33k after years of opportunity.

Based on that they can't ask for more than around 27% his Sires fee.
Should be asking 9k dealing down to 7k.

Good bone and muscle give me a break, how long have you been working there?

Just because his sire is struggling, doesn't mean he will. Sheesh, plenty of sires out there that far surpass their own sires deeds! No, I don't work for Vinery if that is what you are asking. Do not even live in the same state.


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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

Originally posted by Paul Hogan Paul Hogan wrote:

Ridiculously overpriced.

His Sire is struggling himself 58% Winners to runners and is standing for 33k after years of opportunity.

Based on that they can't ask for more than around 27% his Sires fee.
Should be asking 9k dealing down to 7k.

Good bone and muscle give me a break, how long have you been working there?

  And what do you look for ?

these look pretty good to me. 

http://vinery.com.au/news/star-turns-first-crop-of-future-stars
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Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

  Bagging stallions is a hobby on here.  

I hardly think so.

Since when does posting opinions on Star Turn's performances and distaff pedigree constitute "bagging"?

And since when has bagging stallions generally been a hobby in this particular Forum?

But that aside he served nearly 160 mares in his first season, albeit most between $13,200 and $16,500, so there'll be no excuse whatsoever if he doesn't produce early winners. 
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To be honest when they charge what they do and make claims that they do in their advertisements, it’s really up to the breeders to be discerning- and if they need to discuss a stallion in less than glowing terms, then so be it. None of this $22,000 brigade should really stand at that fee.
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"Running ability."

paul hogan i thought you were questioning the good bone and muscle.

as for running ability will have to wait a couple of years. i think....
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Originally posted by Second Chance Second Chance wrote:

Originally posted by acacia alba acacia alba wrote:

  Bagging stallions is a hobby on here.  

I hardly think so.

Since when does posting opinions on Star Turn's performances and distaff pedigree constitute "bagging"?

And since when has bagging stallions generally been a hobby in this particular Forum?

But that aside he served nearly 160 mares in his first season, albeit most between $13,200 and $16,500, so there'll be no excuse whatsoever if he doesn't produce early winners. 




No ?   Go back thru a lot of the posts .   Not just this stallion but others as well. 
Opinions are one thing.  Bagging is another.
And there are plenty here who just want to bag a horse.  Becuase they can.
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Originally posted by Isaac soloman Isaac soloman wrote:

paul hogan i thought you were questioning the good bone and muscle.

As for running ability will have to wait a couple of years. i think


No you won't. He will be handy like his Sire.

How hard is that?

All horses have bone and muscle.

Good bone and muscle is better explained by the more intelligent people like yourself and Ironstien.
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He is worth $6,500 at best.

If anyone wants a serve at this fee PM me.

I would not pay a dollar more.
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If I get three we should be able to tie up the deal.
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obviously you are peeved by his fee.

that is all.

Well, the market will dictate, wont it.

Dont have to be EinsteinLOL

The market will also dictate where you send your mares.

Bad luck,, although as somesone said, you can always try negotiating, instead of bagging.
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Didn't even know he existed until looking at this thread

He is overpriced that is not bagging him it is a commercial reality.
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It would be a funny comeback if it made sense

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Got some nice 2 year olds
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I inspected the Star Turn/Agueda filly at Classic and absolutely loved her. Not overly big but power exactly where you wanted to see it for a jump and run two year old type - shoulder, forearm, gaskins. Lovely presence as well.

Didn't think she would make $310K, mind you!
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Guess which NSW stud are strongly rumoured (almost fact) to use Sun/Eliza Pk as a satellite base
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Kristen apprently alluded to this on her FB page today so a friend PMd to ask if I knew, which of course I didn't, but did reply that it'd come to light here sooner than later LOL
Given the thread name, I guess it has to be Vinery Confused
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Originally posted by Glencoe Glencoe wrote:

Guess which NSW stud are strongly rumoured (almost fact) to use Sun/Eliza Pk as a satellite base



Satellite base for what? Mares? Racers?
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